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post #401 of 424
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post
The internet heightens peoples personalities too much and gives people the chance to say stuff they'd never say to someones faces.
Actually, my personality is plenty toned down on here compared to how I am in real life. I hurt way more feelings in person than I do on these forums, thank you very much.
post #402 of 424
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
I'm only 5'11" and I don't like to fight, but I at least want to be consistent.
Jake, I like you, and I don't fear you, but I certainly would not want to try and piss you and your pythons off.
post #403 of 424
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post
The internet heightens peoples personalities too much and gives people the chance to say stuff they'd never say to someones faces. That means that you're never going to have a conflict free messageboard. The best you can try and do is bite your tongue and ignore people you don't like. That's a lesson I learnt the hard way. I just know if certain people are in threads then the discourse there is going to drive me nuts as such I try and avoid them. It's all you can do.
I get why you'd be all world-weary and cynical about this business Spike but that ain't right either. Two other (non-movie based) boards I visit block the shit out of not just trolls but also anyone acting like a dick. They're not at all free of hard-fought arguments and they're not all hippy and lovey dovey either, but they are free of that passive-aggressive, socially-underdeveloped, meaningless, snarky, pubescent bollocks that seems to dog internet discussions that attract the wrong types of nerds. If you've got a bone to pick with someone else's opinion on those couple of sites you step the fuck up and argue it like you have a brain and a pair instead of slinking back to rummage around in the personal insult hole.

I mean, it's not even as though CHUD is overrun by dickish behaviour, it's nowhere near chronic here like it is at plenty of other fanboy-based cesspools on the web. But there is a small group of boards doing it better right now and the level of conversation and the quality of discourse around here will increase if people don't feel like Andrew did, so obviously hesitant to even post an opinion, even though he's clearly a decent guy who likes talking film.

And that place I was yapping about for the well-aimed put-down? CHUD has plenty of that already. Nick and Devin and the other writers often slam like champions, and they do it at least in the spirit of Wilde and Twain, where wit and imagination are prized, in their articles and reviews. If there's bashing to be done by Chewers on the boards then it's well-placed against mediocrity in film and entertainment and the world around us, but it's pointless against fellow posters. No one wins when that happens, least of all the CHUD board. We must stand together against the dicks and the trolls and tell them that they may take our lives, but they'll never take ... our freedom!

Or words to that effect.
post #404 of 424
I 100% agree with you, Bucho. I'm part of another forum that has a much stricter policy regarding those that are assholes. How something is said, not just what is being said, is taken into consideration when banning. And the forum is better for it.
I haven't been here nearly as long as others but already I've seen a significant number of people mention that they were hesitant to join due to the fear of being attacked. Count Chocula even tried to justify his trolling by citing the level of snark CHUD's known for.

But CHUD is a much bigger community than this other forum I visit and the mods there do have a heavy workload, constantly on the lookout for those that try to disrupt discussions. It must be a nightmare to try to maintain a more civil tone on top of filtering out the more malicious trolls.
post #405 of 424
Most of you are really fucking boring though.
post #406 of 424
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Originally Posted by Bucho View Post
I like reading plenty of what you post usually Martin but the only dick in proceedings in the Basterds thread was you, because you couldn't help yourself from getting all schoolyard and sarcastic on it. Michael and Greg were totally cool about it and let Andrew know that they wanted him to expand on why he felt it was sloppy and then Bobby followed you with a jokey image, but your post was not only redundant, Andrew's response back to you proved it was also impotent.
The amount of people going in thread, saying this and this movie are crap, and leaving it at this, is plenty, so excuse me if poster #4351150, Andrew in this case, did it and provoked my (completely justified) reaction. Look at my other post: explain why you think a movie is like this, and you'll get a far better response than just saying " it's sloppy". Because even more so in the case of Inglorious Basterd, it's everything but a sloppy movie. Elaborating your point a basic decency of engaging in a discussion. not doing so is like what Count Chocula was doing.

I called him out, saying that he didn't know what he was talking about. It's like eenin saying "ironic" there and there. It's no big deal.

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Originally Posted by Timothy Q View Post
Actually, my personality is plenty toned down on here compared to how I am in real life. I hurt way more feelings in person than I do on these forums, thank you very much.
Same here. I'm usually a nice guy, but bullshit and idiocy are called out immediately.
post #407 of 424
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage View Post
The amount of people going in thread, saying this and this movie are crap, and leaving it at this, is plenty, so excuse me if poster #4351150, Andrew in this case, did it and provoked my (completely justified) reaction. Look at my other post: explain why you think a movie is like this, and you'll get a far better response than just saying " it's sloppy". Because even more so in the case of Inglorious Basterd, it's everything but a sloppy movie. Elaborating your point a basic decency of engaging in a discussion. not doing so is like what Count Chocula was doing.
If you can't see that there's a difference between how Michael and Greg called him in a smart and cool manner and how you then followed them by calling him like a bully piling on top with a bitchy personal jibe then you're missing something vital. And if you also couldn't see that Andrew wasn't a troll and therefore your reaction was the exact opposite of "completely justified" then you need to work on your judgement.

I mean, if this one case didn't teach you that getting bitchy at someone for not expanding on an opinion has no effect on them then you may even be risking lost cause status. The guy responded positively to the other two posters who were cool about it but dismissed your post out of hand. That's because getting bitchy fails when you aim it at good guys because they dismiss you as a little bitch. Getting bitchy also fails when you aim it at trolls because then you're actually just sucking their cocks without knowing it. Not only that but getting bitchy at idiots fails because they're too stupid to recognize that you're being bitchy and they might even try to hug you.

It's just an impotent trait all round with nothing to recommend it at all (unless you actually are Message Board Oscar Wilde maybe).


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Originally Posted by Brad Millette View Post
Most of you are really fucking boring though.
That's just the nature of this topsy-turvy world Brad my man. We can't all choose to be the best like you are (and let's be honest for a second - you pretty much are) but we can choose whether or not we want to be dicks to people who don't deserve it.
post #408 of 424
Of course he dismissed my attitude, but it doesn't change the fact that his 1st post, like he posted it, was retarded.

But you're right, I should have sprayed him with mist water extracted from Amazonian flowers picked up by virgins on a moonless night. I'll make sure to do that next time someone post something dumb.
post #409 of 424
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage View Post
Same here. I'm usually a nice guy, but bullshit and idiocy are called out immediately.
Unfortunately, you're an idiot, and thus a bad judge of idiocy. Idiots like to call out statements they don't understand as "idiocy" instead of asking for elaboration. They project their own stupidity and inability to expand on a topic onto other people.
post #410 of 424
Here comes the fucked-up fairy.

Who still can't understand District 9.
post #411 of 424
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage View Post
Of course he dismissed my attitude, but it doesn't change the fact that his 1st post, like he posted it, was retarded.
No, you were too stupid to imagine a possible elaboration on his statement that would clear up your problems with it, and instantly leaped to the conclusion that he was an idiot. And you continue to defend your weak minded assumption.
post #412 of 424
I'm sorry I assumed he was as retarded as you, BusterG. He was just socially ill-mannered.
post #413 of 424
I wasn't talking about avoiding dicks, I was talking about making a concious decision to block out the shit which irritates you to stop from becoming a dick. Lisa, and more notably the reaction to any post she makes, annoys the hell out of me.

It's not her fault, she's perfectly nice. But something about a Lisa derail drives me nuts. So I just quit out of threads which do that until it's moved on enough to get back on track. It's stops me being a cantankerous cunt and allows the boards to progress as normal.
post #414 of 424
Who'd want to stop the fighting and bitching? It's fun.

On that note: Martin Savage suuuuuucks.
post #415 of 424
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post
I wasn't talking about avoiding dicks, I was talking about making a concious decision to block out the shit which irritates you to stop from becoming a dick. Lisa, and more notably the reaction to any post she makes, annoys the hell out of me.

It's not her fault, she's perfectly nice. But something about a Lisa derail drives me nuts. So I just quit out of threads which do that until it's moved on enough to get back on track. It's stops me being a cantankerous cunt and allows the boards to progress as normal.
Awww, wubby. I'm all broken hearted.

You can always put me on ignore, too, douchebag. How's that for "perfectly nice"?
post #416 of 424
Mmm... tell me more Paul.

You know I like your boring and tired jokes. And please tell them in as many color as you can, because it's what makes it special.
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post #418 of 424
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage View Post
Mmm... tell me more Paul.

You know I like your boring and tired jokes. And please tell them in as many color as you can, because it's what makes it special.
You suck.

Use your karate on me, big boy.

See, wasn't that so much more fun than another fucking conversation about the reasons for which Landa ordered milk in INGLORIOUS BASTERDS? A movie which is sloppy and not all that great, by the way.
post #419 of 424
HARDER MCCARTNEY!

C'mon, faster you piece of shit!



Considering your tastes, which includes bad movies and little boys, by all mean continue to bathe yourself in mediocrity.
post #420 of 424
Ooh, the bold function.

Martin Savage is fighting fire with fire!
post #421 of 424
You kids.
post #422 of 424
Thread... slowly... becoming... awesome.
post #423 of 424
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette View Post
You kids.
Oh, they'll sleep well tonight.
post #424 of 424
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Originally Posted by Luca S. View Post
Thread... slowly... becoming... awesome.
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