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post #1 of 27
1/20/03 at 12:49pm
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Now we all know that vampires in film now a days are treated like the red headed step bitch of horror. Mainly due to their complete lameness and lack of anything new brought to the myth. So I'm wondering what you guys would do if you were given the opportunity to make a film about vamps? What direction would you take them in? What would the story be? How would you if you could make vampires evil again?
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post #2 of 27
1/20/03 at 12:54pm
I love vampires! I agree that alot of recent vampire movies have made a mockery of the myth although there have been some decent ones. I don't know what I would do in particular but I am looking forward to the adaptation of I am Legend coming out this year.
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post #3 of 27
1/20/03 at 12:56pm
I would pitch an army of vampires against a giant Mech-Robot. In space.
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post #4 of 27
1/20/03 at 12:58pm
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They are finally doing I Am Legend?

Whoa!! That fills me with fear and excitment..

God I pray they aren't still going with Schwarzenegger(sp?) for the lead.. Cause I just don't think I could stomach that!!

Personally i think Blade 2 had the right idea of vamps. Making new crack head vamps, that other vampires are terrified of.. Excellent twist..

I can only hope any other blood suckers we see will be even half that cool!
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post #5 of 27
1/20/03 at 1:00pm
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sadako your wet dreams:
God I pray they aren't still going with Schwarzenegger(sp?) for the lead.. Cause I just don't think I could stomach that!!
Last I heard, it was Will Smith with Michael Bay directing. Which is a marginal improvement, but not by much.
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post #6 of 27
1/20/03 at 1:05pm
Will Smith and Micheal Bay? Ughhh. I liked Blade II the modern twist they put on the new breed was excellent and the Dolby Digital mix on the DVD kicks ass!
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post #7 of 27
1/20/03 at 1:07pm
I would adapt Chris Golden's 'Saints and Sinners' novel. Easily the best vampire book I've read in many, many moons.
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post #8 of 27
1/20/03 at 1:09pm
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So I'm wondering what you guys would do if you were given the opportunity to make a film about vamps?
Embrace of the Vampire, Part 2. A horde of vampiric photographers flood the universities of the world, luring young innocent... well, you get the picture.
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post #9 of 27
1/20/03 at 2:02pm
Anything that doesn't involve sexy hip teen modern-day vamps with surly 'tudes is fine by me.
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post #10 of 27
1/20/03 at 6:02pm
See id actually take some of the myths away. I think some of the myths protect people too much. First id get rid of the whole cross thing. You mean all I have to do is hold up a cross and he cant touch you? Also the whole inviting them in the house thing. I mean if you wanted to be safe all you would have to do was stay in at night and do what you had to do at day. And if you did go out at night all you need is a cross. Or maybe you could kill him with a stake, holy water, holy wafer, drawing a cross on a bullet,cut off their head, crossbow, or you could get away by dropping things on the ground which they must count. I think one of the best vampires were actually from John Carpenters Vampires. Love it or hate it those vamps were tough, smart and damn near unstoppable. The only way you could kill them was by stake or sunlight. Now i like that.
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post #11 of 27
1/20/03 at 7:16pm
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Quote:
PuppetMasterFan:
See id actually take some of the myths away. I think some of the myths protect people too much. First id get rid of the whole cross thing. You mean all I have to do is hold up a cross and he cant touch you? Also the whole inviting them in the house thing. I mean if you wanted to be safe all you would have to do was stay in at night and do what you had to do at day. And if you did go out at night all you need is a cross. Or maybe you could kill him with a stake, holy water, holy wafer, drawing a cross on a bullet,cut off their head, crossbow, or you could get away by dropping things on the ground which they must count. I think one of the best vampires were actually from John Carpenters Vampires. Love it or hate it those vamps were tough, smart and damn near unstoppable. The only way you could kill them was by stake or sunlight. Now i like that.
See I can't help but agree with you on removing some of the myth. Maybe taking them back to their origins as unstopable killing machines. Much like zombies but with more smarts and way swifter!!
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post #12 of 27
1/20/03 at 8:03pm
Originally vamps had zero sunlight problems. If anything they just got a llittle weaker. I'm roughing out a story based on that premise. VERRRRY rough.
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post #13 of 27
1/20/03 at 8:55pm
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capteucalyptus (Scott Roche):
Originally vamps had zero sunlight problems. If anything they just got a llittle weaker. I'm roughing out a story based on that premise. VERRRRY rough.
Not to be presumptious but I'd love to get a look at your story when you're finished if you wouldn't mind?

I love reading new and irreverent stories!
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post #14 of 27
1/20/03 at 9:02pm
Surely. It's on the back burner. Got two other shorts cookin and MUST get back to work on the novel. It is calling my name. But when I finsh you may read.
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post #15 of 27
1/20/03 at 9:12pm
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Wonderful!!

I'll wait with breath bated..

If I die in the process though just put the story in the coffin with me
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post #16 of 27
1/21/03 at 1:23am
yeah didn't they use the idea that sunlight didn't kill vamps in dracula?
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post #17 of 27
1/21/03 at 6:39am
My favorite book by Stephen King is still Salem's Lot, a terrific story about (relatively) modern-day vampires. Unfortunately, I still haven't seen Tobe Hooper's tv movie of it, but I've heard mixed reviews. Has anyone seen it? Is it any good?

I ask because if it isn't a good film, then I would love to see this remade, this time for the theaters.

I think vampires are one of the greatest "monsters" ever imagined, mainly because of the sheer seductiveness of their lifestyle and method of converting people. No other monster makes it so hard to resist succumbing to their "attack," IMO. Werewolves will always be my favorite, however.
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post #18 of 27
1/21/03 at 7:23am
I read a pretty cool book about a vampire who, instead of drinking blood, eats dreams. Taking a piece of a person's soul every night until they were dead. The book is called Yarrow by Charles De Lint check it out if you can. Though the ending is kind of week I'm sure that could be corrected in the adaptation prosses from book to screen.
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post #19 of 27
1/21/03 at 7:55am
I liked the vampires in Dusk Till Dawn... well, I really REALLY liked Salma Hayak.

I have an idea for a comic or novel series i been playing with for years. Incorporates myth from asia with the legend. Here is the synopsis.

Vampire is trying to cope ith his thirst. he dispells most illusions, he is not much stronger than humans, not much faster, but his senses are keen. He is Chineese and has studied martial arts for hundreds of years, but in a blood rage killed his sensei.

The one thing that triggers him most of all is people having sex near him, as his senses fire. he tries to feed on criminals to justify his presence, but often has 'accidents'. Sunlight weakens him but will not kill him, and garlic and most religios paraphernalia will not stop him because there is no true faith.

But there is a group of Shaolin monks tracking him, and they can repel him by sheer faith alone and seek to bind him and return him to china to be tried for his crimes.
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post #20 of 27
1/21/03 at 8:25am
Michael Bay and Will Smith for 'I am legend'? NOOO, i was really hoping Bay would stay the hell away from this project, doesnt he realize that nothing gets machine gunned, bombed or blown up in the book?(well im sure he can squeeze it into the movie)
I would like to see an ACTUAL adaption of the book 'dracula' to movie, instead of watching each and every director butchering the story just enough to make it suck (i.e. "Bram Stroker's Dracula"). Of course by now the story has been done (poorly) so many times i'd probably be the only one to go see it, but d@mn its a great book, too bad it'll never see the 'lord of the rings' type treatment.
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post #21 of 27
1/21/03 at 12:03pm
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i3ullseye:
The one thing that triggers him most of all is people having sex near him
sounds like Mr Voorhees wink
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post #22 of 27
1/21/03 at 12:05pm
I would like to see the bi-sexualness of the vampiress explored more in movies these days!
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post #23 of 27
1/21/03 at 5:42pm
Bi-sexualness?

How about aesexuality? they are friggen corpses. I don't hump cows or chickens, so i can't imagine they would really screw their food either. That is one of the WORST things added to the mythos IMHO.

What was so distrbing about Dracula was he reeked of death, and was not sensual or attractive. yet he still had the ladies enthralled. and those around them saw it as disturbing. he lusted after one person, who was reminiscent of his one true love. And he could never have/love her like he once did. There is the gothic tragedy in it all.

No, Vampires should never have been made supernatural love machines. Lessens the real impact of what beasts they truly are.

Historically though, we have always doen this. We take that which scares us and try to romanticize it to make it less scary, and easier to deal with. Even war with light hearted war movies we do this. Zombies were scary, but now we have the Crow fighting for justice. Vampires feed on us like cattle, but now they are friendly and want our love in Anne Rices books. Ghosts scare us, but now we have Casper. Etc... etc...
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post #24 of 27
1/21/03 at 9:32pm
The best vamoire novel I've read is Poppy Z brites "Lost Souls" EXCELLENT
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post #25 of 27
1/22/03 at 4:40am
Quote:
i3ullseye:
...I have an idea for a comic or novel series i been playing with for years. Incorporates myth from asia with the legend. Here is the synopsis.

Vampire is trying to cope ith his thirst. he dispells most illusions, he is not much stronger than humans, not much faster, but his senses are keen. He is Chineese and has studied martial arts for hundreds of years, but in a blood rage killed his sensei.

The one thing that triggers him most of all is people having sex near him, as his senses fire. he tries to feed on criminals to justify his presence, but often has 'accidents'. Sunlight weakens him but will not kill him, and garlic and most religios paraphernalia will not stop him because there is no true faith.

But there is a group of Shaolin monks tracking him, and they can repel him by sheer faith alone and seek to bind him and return him to china to be tried for his crimes.
A kung-fu vampire flick? That's a great combo that hasn't been done to death. Hammer did The Legend of the Seven Golden Vampires, but I can't think of any others. The vamps on Buffy and Angel seem to KNOW kung-fu, but there's no spirituality attached.

Go for it dude!
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post #26 of 27
1/22/03 at 5:29am
Quote:
sadako your wet dreams:
Now we all know that vampires in film now a days are treated like the red headed step bitch of horror. Mainly due to their complete lameness and lack of anything new brought to the myth. So I'm wondering what you guys would do if you were given the opportunity to make a film about vamps? What direction would you take them in? What would the story be? How would you if you could make vampires evil again?
Vampire versus Shark
versus Zombie

A fight to the finish
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post #27 of 27
1/22/03 at 6:39am
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surgeon:
FWIW, in Stoker's novel, Dracula was sex. More specifically, female sexuality. The concept of vampires has thrived for so long for that very reason.

Some vampire movies have taken the sexuality out of the equation and yes, it can still have scares and still be a monster movie, but it does not resonate with the intensity of a Dracula or any another example of a great vampire tale.
I certainly see your point, as there are undeniably sexual undertones in Bram Stroker's Dracula, but it has been distorted and blown out of proportion by hollywood. Remember that both Lucy Westenra and Mina Harker were terrified and sickend by what was happening to them (when they begun to realize what it was), and not in the least bit romantically attracted to dracula. It was impossible to resist him due not to romantic super-studliness, but the trance-like state that his presence induced, or the "half-swoon" as Mina refers to it.
Hollywood seems to have decided that all women passionately and uncontrollably desired dracula, as opposed to Stroker's (very obvious) idea that they were scared $hitless by him and hated him.
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