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1/12/10 at 1:11pm
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I'll probably get some shit for this, but the thread title is "worst books you've ever read", not "worst books that exist". I don't read movie novelizations or expansions, and I'm sure those are all terrible.
But I probably struggled through "American Psycho" more than any other book I've read. The concept is solid, but it's the most repetitive book I've ever read. Some might argue that's the point, but it doesn't make it any more interesting to read through. Long description of outfit, long description of material possessions, long description of expensive dinner, long description of grisly murder. Repeat for 400 pages or so. I also found David Foster Wallace's Oblivion to be completely inpenetrable. Sentences that go on for a page and a half? Each short story had a decent idea, buried in 25 pages of pretentious, run-on bullshit. That was my first and last DFW book. I never give up on a book, but I came pretty close with that one. |
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I'll probably get some shit for this, but the thread title is "worst books you've ever read", not "worst books that exist". I don't read movie novelizations or expansions, and I'm sure those are all terrible.
But I probably struggled through "American Psycho" more than any other book I've read. The concept is solid, but it's the most repetitive book I've ever read. Some might argue that's the point, but it doesn't make it any more interesting to read through. Long description of outfit, long description of material possessions, long description of expensive dinner, long description of grisly murder. Repeat for 400 pages or so. I also found David Foster Wallace's Oblivion to be completely inpenetrable. Sentences that go on for a page and a half? Each short story had a decent idea, buried in 25 pages of pretentious, run-on bullshit. That was my first and last DFW book. I never give up on a book, but I came pretty close with that one. |
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I also found David Foster Wallace's Oblivion to be completely inpenetrable. Sentences that go on for a page and a half? Each short story had a decent idea, buried in 25 pages of pretentious, run-on bullshit. That was my first and last DFW book. I never give up on a book, but I came pretty close with that one.
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I also found David Foster Wallace's Oblivion to be completely inpenetrable.
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And Jake, this Garfield character sounds hilarious. Can you provide me with an Amazon link?
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And I say again: if "American Psycho" and "Oblivion" are the worst books you've ever read, you have been either incredibly lucky extraordinarily selective or some combination of the two.
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I'm still going to give Baudolino a shot, so I'm just going to assume you're terribly wrong for now, ryoken.
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As far as Star Wars books go, I thought Shadows of the Empire was pretty fun, and I never got around to reading Zahn's stuff (should I?), but yeah, the rest of them can burn for all I care.
In regards to the Dune series, I've heard Herbert's stuff actually degenerates in quality after the first book (which I've read and love); is this accurate? I plan to stay away from the current books at all costs, mind you, but I was curious to hear others' opinions about the main series. |
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has anyone gotten around to reading that new star wars zombie book, "death troopers" yet? I'm sooo tempted to pick it up at the library, as i feel it's a ripe candidate for this thread.
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The only essential books are the Brian Daley Han Solo novels (3 of them). They were the only books to get the characters exactly right. The Dark Horse Comics 'Dark Empire' series (two of them, I think?) were good as well. The Zahn novels featured a really strong bad guy, but that's really about it.
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In regards to the Dune series, I've heard Herbert's stuff actually degenerates in quality after the first book (which I've read and love); is this accurate? I plan to stay away from the current books at all costs, mind you, but I was curious to hear others' opinions about the main series.
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I'm still going to give Baudolino a shot, so I'm just going to assume you're terribly wrong for now, ryoken.
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The rest of the Frank Herbert books are fine. I especially liked Heretics and Chapterhouse. There's more of a metaplot to them and the Bene Gesseritt seem way more human here.
Not all novelization are bad. Orson Scott Card maybe a crazy cook, but I'll defend his The Abyss novelization anyday. |
| Permit me to introduce John Ringo. Ringo is the author of a bajillion books, including fantasy and military SF. The novels (oh, yes, there is more than one) we'll be considering are from the PALADIN OF SHADOWS series. These are modern-day action thrillers in which -- well, let's look at GHOST, the first novel in the series. The story begins with our hero, Mike Harmon, a accidentally witnessing the abduction of a college coed. He witnesses it because he just happens to be lurking in the shadows and watching the coeds himself. This is Mike's recreation. Why? Well: He knew that at heart, he was a rapist. And that meant he hated rapists more than any "normal" human being. They purely pissed him off. He'd spent his entire sexually adult life fighting the urge to not use his inconsiderable strength to possess and take instead of woo and cajole. He'd fought his demons to a standstill again and again when it would have been so easy to give in. He'd had one truly screwed up bitch get completely naked, with him naked and erect between her legs, and she still couldn't say "yes." And he'd just said: "that's okay" and walked away with an amazing case of blue balls. When men gave in to that dark side, it made him even more angry then listening to leftist bitches scream about "western civilization" and how it was so fucked up. Ladies and gentlemen, *our hero.* You think that paragraph alone would make this book awesomely bad, but no. IT GETS MORE SO. Yes, you will be horrified by a lot of this, because Mike Harmon's adventures are by turns awesomely horrific and horrifically awesome; I freely confess that I cannot stop reading these books, because *I have to see what Ringo does next.* I do, however, have a finely-tuned defense mechanism: whenever something trips my circuit breaker, causing me to cringe away from the page, I utter aloud a cry that resets my noggin. You will probably need it yourself, so I provide it here, as a public service: "OH JOHN RINGO NO." |
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The worse book I ever read was a Richard Laymon novel. I bought up my hate for him recently in a thread and was reminded of just how awful the fucking thing was. I read another soon after just to make sure that I wasn't wrong, and he was really that shit.
I was right. Can't remember the title. I've blocked it out from my memory like a horrible rape at the hands of a family friend or something. |
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What? Are they fast or slow zombies? How does the Force affects them?
SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS! |
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First one, no(And I've told him this) because it felt too conventional and stiff, second one he seemed to get a handle on the character and world, by the third book, he was good.
And besides, he doesn't belong in this thread anyway. You want a truly bad thriller writer? Try Vince Flynn or his clone Brad Thor. |
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I don't often give up on books, but this line from some James Patterson novel did the trick:
"She drove as fast as humanly possible. Maybe faster" Cheers James. |
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That thing about Patterson though is that he subcontracts out work. So most of what is being published under his name is really someone else's work. They just put his name on it because they know people will buy it. I'm not saying it's not bad writing, or that his writing before this wasn't bad, I'm just saying it took a collaborative effort to come up with that gem.
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I literally just now remembered the name of the book: THEIR EYES WERE WATCHING GOD. It's almost incomprehensible, full of bizarre spellings, lack of capitalization, ETC. Its as if the author were writing in order to provide her readers with as frustrating and aggravating a reading experience as possible. Plus, the events of the novel are mind numbingly dull. Every character (as far as I was able to figure out, the impenetrable text makes determining character motivations difficult) is unlikeable.
I was forced to read it in 10th grade, and I've never really gotten over that experience. For a long time, TEWWG sullied the entire concept of reading, as far as I was concerned. With every new book I picked up, I felt this dread in the pit of my stomach that it was going to turn out to be another TEWWG and I'd have wasted 50 pages and an hour of my life before I'd figure out that I should never have started the book in the first place It made reading very difficult. |