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post #101 of 133
1/15/10 at 3:04am
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage View Post
Whoa. I'll defend Martyrs. It's not a great movie, but the acting is fine, the effects are great, and wheter or not you hate the 2nd part of the movie, it's pretty horrifying. It is torture porn, but at least it went on a path I did find gutsy. Flawed, but daring.
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What's gutsy about it? That it decides to hide behind a pseudo-spiritual pretension to explain its smut?

Rich idiots torturing women so that in the unlikely event one of them survives, she may explain to them what the afterlife looks like...that's "daring"?

Well, acted, and well directed I'll grant you, but in no way do I consider this film daring on any level: certainly not intellectually.
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post #102 of 133
1/15/10 at 11:08am
How many torture porn movie do you find intellectually daring? Because I didn't say it was. Or for that matter, how many horror movies are that intellectually daring? It's just going a different way than fucking Hostel.

How hard is it to understand? Why is Martyrs's under any obligation to explain the smut to your liking. I just think I liked it better that it's rich crazy people looking for what's after death rather than rich Eurotrash torturing people for the fun of. Would you rather have liked the same plot?

I like when horror movies don't repeat themselves, because for me, good horror (and a good movie when I think of it) is more than a script. It's the music, the acting, the directing, the art direction, the effects and so on.

I found Martyrs to be a good horror movie. It's far from being a masterpiece, but if you think it's like Saw, watch more horror movie then.
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post #103 of 133
1/15/10 at 11:20am
I would add the following to the theatrical list:

Wes Craven's THEY. The only reason I remember this movie even exists is because I saw it in the theater and it made me angry.

DARKNESS FALLS. Evil tooth fairy.

FRIDAY THE 13TH. Quite possibly the most pointless remake ever made. Somehow this movie took ever cliche and shortcoming from the source material and actually made them worse. Not a single reason for it to exist. And I liked the TCM remake.
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post #104 of 133
1/15/10 at 11:48am
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Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
FRIDAY THE 13TH. Quite possibly the most pointless remake ever made. Somehow this movie took ever cliche and shortcoming from the source material and actually made them worse. Not a single reason for it to exist. And I liked the TCM remake.
This earns you Zero

out of Five
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post #105 of 133
1/15/10 at 12:41pm
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FRIDAY THE 13TH. Quite possibly the most pointless remake ever made. Somehow this movie took ever cliche and shortcoming from the source material and actually made them worse. Not a single reason for it to exist. And I liked the TCM remake.
Monumentally incorrect. A reboot was an excellent idea considering all of the supernatural and futuristic nonsense Jason as a character has been involved in over the course of the series. And for the reboot, condensing Ms. Voorhees to an initial flashback sequence instead of the film's star was a smart move, the opening misdirection on the cast (as in all of them getting killed) was fairly clever, and the majority of the kills were entertaining updates to the rote 80's slasher style. It's not a perfect film by any measure but it doesn't belong anywhere near this list.

And let's be honest, Julianna Guill's scenes alone merit it's existence.
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post #106 of 133
1/15/10 at 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by Banandar View Post
What's gutsy about it? That it decides to hide behind a pseudo-spiritual pretension to explain its smut?

Rich idiots torturing women so that in the unlikely event one of them survives, she may explain to them what the afterlife looks like...that's "daring"?

Well, acted, and well directed I'll grant you, but in no way do I consider this film daring on any level: certainly not intellectually.
You didn't like the movie and didn't care for the existential or "pseudo-spiritual pretension". We get it. But worst of the decade? Please.
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post #107 of 133
1/15/10 at 12:56pm
Martyrs doesn't belong anywhere near this thread.
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post #108 of 133
1/15/10 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by Death Surge View Post
Monumentally incorrect. A reboot was an excellent idea considering all of the supernatural and futuristic nonsense Jason as a character has been involved in over the course of the series. And for the reboot, condensing Ms. Voorhees to an initial flashback sequence instead of the film's star was a smart move, the opening misdirection on the cast (as in all of them getting killed) was fairly clever, and the majority of the kills were entertaining updates to the rote 80's slasher style. It's not a perfect film by any measure but it doesn't belong anywhere near this list.

And let's be honest, Julianna Guill's scenes alone merit it's existence.
Series in need of a reboot: correct.

Setting up the backstory as a flashback: smart move.

Everything else was a failure. There was zero energy to the movie. No tension, no dread, no memorable kills or likeable characters. The dialogue was so bad it was distracting. It was exactly the same movie as all of the generic slasher movies on the list so far, except for having the F13 brand name on it (which some might argue is an even worse crime and missed opportunity). They rebooted the franchise, only to make it the most boring and forgettable entry in the entire series.

As stupid as it was, I had a blast with Jason X. The only thing I can remember from the remake is "you've got perfect nipple placement, baby".
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post #109 of 133
1/15/10 at 4:36pm
I'd like to offer up Steven Seagal's "Against the Dark" as a DTV nom.
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post #110 of 133
1/15/10 at 4:47pm
It's a comedy.
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post #111 of 133
1/15/10 at 4:48pm
Thread Starter 
Even if you don't like the theological or torture porny elements of MARTYRS, there's still the first half of the film, which I think is great. I mean really, c'mon.

FRIDAY THE 13TH 2009 is the definition of a mixed bag. I think there's just as much to like about it (Derek Mears, the first 15 mins, Trent, Guill & boobs, some of the kills, etc) as there is to dislike (lack of suspense, weird structure, Jason kidnapping people, underground lair/mine, some boring kills, etc). I think it's fair enough to say that the film had potential to be better than it is, and as such is a disappointment. But it isn't even one of the worst horror films of the year, let alone the decade.
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post #112 of 133
1/15/10 at 11:27pm
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Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
I would add the following to the theatrical list:

DARKNESS FALLS. Evil tooth fairy.
Oooooooo dat was bad. I had forgotten about this miserable little film's very existence until just now, and was the happier for it. That was one itch I didn't need Scratch-ed.
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post #113 of 133
1/16/10 at 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg View Post
Oooooooo dat was bad. I had forgotten about this miserable little film's very existence until just now, and was the happier for it. That was one itch I didn't need Scratch-ed.

Ha, I just creeped into this thread to put it forth but, never having seen it, was wondering if it really was as shit as I keep hearing. I like the concept, shame it got fucked up.

Anyone else here think that the De Niro/Greg Kinnear GODSEND (2004) is a sack of cack?
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post #114 of 133
1/16/10 at 12:46pm
I saw "Horsemen" recently.

Aside from feeling sorry for Dennis Quaid, it kind of lead me to loath Lion's Gate for greenlighting a film with such a patently silly premise


Whoa, hold on... 26 years from now I'll be starring in what??
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post #115 of 133
1/16/10 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage View Post
How many torture porn movie do you find intellectually daring? Because I didn't say it was. Or for that matter, how many horror movies are that intellectually daring? It's just going a different way than fucking Hostel.

How hard is it to understand? Why is Martyrs's under any obligation to explain the smut to your liking. I just think I liked it better that it's rich crazy people looking for what's after death rather than rich Eurotrash torturing people for the fun of. Would you rather have liked the same plot?

I like when horror movies don't repeat themselves, because for me, good horror (and a good movie when I think of it) is more than a script. It's the music, the acting, the directing, the art direction, the effects and so on.

I found Martyrs to be a good horror movie. It's far from being a masterpiece, but if you think it's like Saw, watch more horror movie then.
What's with people treating horror movies like the retarded kid in the family?

"I know you're stupid little Pete...but at least you're not as stupid as Mike over there whose IQ is 20 instead of 30"

A good movie starts with a good script. Martyrs has a shitty script, and tries to gloss over its flaws with good direction and acting. Personally, I like when horror movies are simply good movies as opposed to genre pleasers. Plus, I'll take Hostel's fun and thematically interesting topic of "capitalism run amok" over Martyrs' pretentious, and thematically hilarious topic of "rich people asking tortured young women for the answers to life's big questions" any day of the week.
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post #116 of 133
1/16/10 at 10:25pm
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Originally Posted by BrundleFlyboy View Post
Anyone else here think that the De Niro/Greg Kinnear GODSEND (2004) is a sack of cack?
GODSEND and HIDE & SEEK would make a terrible DeNiro Double Feature. Both were miserable.

I'll come to the "defense" of DARKNESS FALLS and THEY to some degree. As with some of the J-Horror, they're not good or recommendable really, but more forgettable than "Worst".

A step down from BOOGEYMAN, which I enjoyed enough until the unnecessarily-CG ending.

HILLS HAVE EYES 2 was a major disappointment, but would have also fallen into the "forgettable" category, if it hadn't followed such a great flick.
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post #117 of 133
1/18/10 at 1:38pm
And the atrocious THE HAUNTING ('99) remake missed this list by a year.
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post #118 of 133
1/26/10 at 8:38am
The Hills Have Eyes 2
Living Hell
Darkness Falls
TCM: The Beginning
Halloween

Exorcist: The Beginning has been mentioned, but I think Paul Schrader's intended movie Dominion is much worse -- I'd take CG hyenas' eating a monkey any day.

There's too many to list. A bad decade for horror.
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post #119 of 133
1/26/10 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by Banandar View Post
What's with people treating horror movies like the retarded kid in the family?

"I know you're stupid little Pete...but at least you're not as stupid as Mike over there whose IQ is 20 instead of 30"

A good movie starts with a good script. Martyrs has a shitty script, and tries to gloss over its flaws with good direction and acting. Personally, I like when horror movies are simply good movies as opposed to genre pleasers. Plus, I'll take Hostel's fun and thematically interesting topic of "capitalism run amok" over Martyrs' pretentious, and thematically hilarious topic of "rich people asking tortured young women for the answers to life's big questions" any day of the week.
Horror is not the retarded kid of the family, but the movie doesn't have a shitty script. There's some great horror, comedy, sci-fi or action movies whose script is shitty, but are made great by other means. Case in point: Ong Bak, The Protector, Chocolate or better yet a 100 or so old school kung fu flicks. None of these films have a great script, but the fights scenes makes them great.

And if you don't see Hostel and this movie as being eye to eye, you probably didn't even watch Martyrs. Substitute Extreme Captalism for Religious Fanatism and it's kind of the same, but Martyr's first half is superior to the entire Hostel movie.

It's pretty cute that you call it THE WORST HORROR MOVIE OF THE DECADE. It' just prove the point that you haven't seen a lot of horror movies. You had a problem with Martyr, fine, but calling it it the WORST HORROR MOVIE OF THE DECADE?

Fuck that.
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post #120 of 133
1/26/10 at 11:09am
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Originally Posted by Banandar View Post
Leprechaun in the Hood
Yea, my vote goes to this one. It wasn't even so-bad-its-good like some of the earlier "Leprechaun" flicks. It was just bad.
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post #121 of 133
1/26/10 at 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage View Post
It's pretty cute that you call it THE WORST HORROR MOVIE OF THE DECADE. It' just prove the point that you haven't seen a lot of horror movies. You had a problem with Martyr, fine, but calling it it the WORST HORROR MOVIE OF THE DECADE?

Fuck that.
Indeed. While the ending was unsuccessful and ultimately hollow, there's easily been at least 10 DTV releases every month of this decade far worse than it, and enough PG-13 theatricals to where it's silly to even discuss it.

Dislike it all you will, but the camera work alone disqualifies it from this thread, and no amount of hyperbole Banandar is going to change that.
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post #122 of 133
2/1/10 at 5:35am
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Also, I'll throw LEPRECHAUN BACK TO THA HOOD under the bus because it shat on all the goodwill generated by LEPRECHAUN IN DA HOOD.
I actually don't have the words. Goodwill? Leprechaun In Da Hood? I need to move on from this one before my head explodes.

Worst horror films of the decade? Too many to chose from but here's a few off the top of my cranium.

Day Of The Dead: Contagium
Day Of The Dead (2008)
Captivity
The Fog
Return Of The Living Dead: DTV Sequel(?)
Saw V
Halloween (2007)
House Of The Dead 2
Alone In The Dark
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post #123 of 133
2/2/10 at 12:03pm
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Alone In The Dark
Speaking of, I saw that a DTV sequel came out recently. I wonder if it's even worse.

I was tricked/coerced into seeing Boll's in the theater.
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post #124 of 133
2/2/10 at 12:22pm
It's scientifically impossible for the sequel to be worse.
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post #125 of 133
2/2/10 at 2:14pm
Fuck, I will defend Leprechaun in da Hood, the Ice T scenes alone make it worth watching. Never saw Back to da Hood but I doubt it's anywhere near as good.'

I also thought The Hitcher remake was watchable, been a year or two since I saw it but I don't remember having much of a negative reaction to it aside from the ending, if I recall correctly. I definitely wouldn't put it on a Worst of the Decade list.
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post #126 of 133
2/2/10 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by C.S. Lewis Jr. View Post

Exorcist: The Beginning has been mentioned, but I think Paul Schrader's intended movie Dominion is much worse -- I'd take CG hyenas' eating a monkey any day.
Both get a pass for the simple fact that they hold merrit as good examples of just how bad Studio interference can get.

I also think Dominion is terribly misunderstood. It's more of a drama film than a horror. But at least the scares are kinda disturbing. They're very much artificial in Renny's.
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post #127 of 133
2/2/10 at 4:12pm
Thread Starter 
DOMINION is bad but at least there's some interesting ideas in there (I love the idea of the demon making the deformed boy healthy). Harlin's film is just a pointless, paint-by-numbers franchise entry. Both bad films for sure but not quite the depths of depravity we're talking about here.
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post #128 of 133
2/4/10 at 7:41am
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Fuck, I will defend Leprechaun in da Hood, the Ice T scenes alone make it worth watching. Never saw Back to da Hood but I doubt it's anywhere near as good.'
I'd say it's about as good in that they're both pieces of shit. I like Ice-T and he's not bad in the movie but it's just a terrible, terrible script. It's filled with ignorantly-generic hood stereotypes so cliche that a UPN executive would cringe reading them. If it was revealed that this movie was actually written by a bunch of fifteen-year-old white suburban kids whose only knowledge of the hood comes from rap music videos and re-runs of "Moesha", I actually wouldn't be surprised.
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post #129 of 133
2/4/10 at 8:10am
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Day Of The Dead: Contagium
Day Of The Dead (2008)
I'm lame and not doing any research here, but there were TWO?!
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post #130 of 133
2/4/10 at 9:45am
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I'm lame and not doing any research here, but there were TWO?!
I'm afraid it's true.
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post #131 of 133
2/4/10 at 9:50am
WES CRAVEN'S THEY was barely Wes Craven's. He had his name slapped on it as a producer but that was about it. If he's gonna be mentioned in this thread, let it be for CURSED.
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post #132 of 133
2/4/10 at 9:50am
Re: Days of the Dead
Well the real question I guess... are either worth watching(in a so bad they're good way)? I already know the Ving Rhames one is awful.
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post #133 of 133
2/4/10 at 7:30pm
Thread Starter 
The 2008 DAY OF THE DEAD was awful but watchable.
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