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Another fun one: The scientists in Firefly/Serenity were trying to re-create a Slayer with River to stop the Reavers.
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Another fun one: The scientists in Firefly/Serenity were trying to re-create a Slayer with River to stop the Reavers.
Nice, but explain how this ties into Dollhouse, smartypants.
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Nice, but explain how this ties into Dollhouse, smartypants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaver_%28Firefly%29


"The Reavers' true origin is revealed later in the movie Serenity. The crew of Serenity find evidence, in the form of an Alliance scientist's holographic message, that Reavers were originally humans from the planet Miranda. The Alliance government used Miranda as a testing ground for the chemical agent G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate, or simply "Pax" (Latin for "peace"). It was added to the planet's air processors in order to calm the population and weed out aggression."

Pax was an advanced version of a drug/technology developed to make Dolls more docile when not in the field.
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I still swear that Ned's ability to bring the dead back to life on Pushing Daisies is somehow linked to what happened when Betty the Reaper followed a soul into the afterlife on Dead Like Me.
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Another fun one: The scientists in Firefly/Serenity were trying to re-create a Slayer with River to stop the Reavers.
As a follow-up. Firefly is set in the Buffyverse. The chronology would go something like this (keep in mind that I haven't read the recent "seasons six and eight" comics): Buffy --> Angel --> the event that ends the vampire/human war and sucks all vampires back into an alternate dimension, possibly involving Buffy and Angel --> Fray --->Firefly.

I love Tommy Westphall Universe, for what it's worth, if only for the idea that if you follow it through to its logical conclusion, we're all the fantasy of an autistic boy in Boston. Even now, as I'm typing this.
post #56 of 415
Wrong thread ...
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George Lucas made the Prequels the way he did to disillusion all the Star Wars Fanboys and force them to become adults
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George Lucas made the Prequels the way he did to disillusion all the Star Wars Fanboys and force them to become adults
And boy did that work out.
post #59 of 415
'Requiem for a Dream' is the sequel to 'Labyrinth.'
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Ok if that's not a gag, I want that explained.
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As a follow-up. Firefly is set in the Buffyverse. The chronology would go something like this (keep in mind that I haven't read the recent "seasons six and eight" comics): Buffy --> Angel --> the event that ends the vampire/human war and sucks all vampires back into an alternate dimension, possibly involving Buffy and Angel --> Fray --->Firefly.

I love Tommy Westphall Universe, for what it's worth, if only for the idea that if you follow it through to its logical conclusion, we're all the fantasy of an autistic boy in Boston. Even now, as I'm typing this.
I'm not sure, but I think Fray takes place after when Firefly is set.
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Well, a theory that I remember hearing from someone (and they allegedly got it from a website) shortly after Episode 1 came out was that Obi-Won Kenobi was actually a droid. You know, OB1 and all that, and it explains why Obi-Won disappears after a light saber blow yet the Jedi played by Liam Neeson in Episode 1 doesn't do the same thing... given that I don't ever remember an explanation ever given as to why one Jedi vanishes and another doesn't, it's as good as any, I suppose.
A lot of people (friends of mine included). were convinced after Phantom Menace came out that Palpatine and Darth Sidious would turn out to be different people/clones.

And I'd be prepared to believe the end of Minority Report was all a dream if I hadn't already seen Spielberg's ass-clenchingly sappy end to War of the Worlds.
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Ok if that's not a gag, I want that explained.
Wouldn't it be easier to draw a connection between Requiem and Dark City?

Speaking of movies with actresses-in-common, I have a theory that Jane Alexander's character in Terminator: Salvation is the mom from Testament, still hanging on decades after the bombs dropped.
post #64 of 415
I've heard theories trying to connect Bladerunner to Alien (Ash being a future version of replicants) and the Terminator series to Aliens (because of the James Cameron aesthetic, and Bishop's comment about "hyperdyne systems" being "cyberdyne systems" in the script), creating a conjoined Scott/Cameron universe.

Also, and this isn't so much a theory as a curiousity, I've always wondered why both Hi and Smalls have the same roadrunner tattoo in Raising Arizona. Hi kidnapped a baby, and Smalls mentions having been sold on the market when he was a baby. Both have crazy red hair. Is Smalls supposed to be Hi's dark side incarnate or something?
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My own pre-REVOLUTIONS, MATRIX RELOADED theory was that the 'real world' they supposedly escaped into was actually another piece of the Matrix, and that Neo was the real One to save them for the first time.

Also, at the end of the DARK TOWER series, I was absolutely convinced that Roland would reach the top floor and find the Constant Reader, ala THE NEVER ENDING STORY.
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Speaking of movies with actresses-in-common, I have a theory that Jane Alexander's character in Terminator: Salvation is the mom from Testament, still hanging on decades after the bombs dropped.
I'd like to subscribe to that newsletter. Finally saw SALVATION last week and as soon as she popped up, I remarked that very thing to my wife. Not being a nuke film fan, she was at a loss. But I found my self insisting(to her and myself) that that had to be the case. Why else pluck someone so classy and random for a small role in a Terminator film?
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My crazy personal pet theory: Punch Drunk Love is intended to be Paul Thomas Anderson's superhero film.

Little stuff supports it along the way. His love interest and his nemesis both have alliterative names. One of them even called "Mattress Man." Barry may still be crazy at the end of the film, but he does find focus, courage, and strength, all after hooking up with Lena in Hawaii. "I have a love in my life. It makes me more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

But the tipoff is Barry's design. His suit: All blue, red tie. Black hair. Jewish. The final shot of the film has Lena, dressed in all red, wrapping her arms around Barry's neck.

Not an accident.
Up until this post I despised Punch Drunk Love. Now it's a film to fuck with people's heads. Awesome, Justin!
post #68 of 415
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I still swear that Ned's ability to bring the dead back to life on Pushing Daisies is somehow linked to what happened when Betty the Reaper followed a soul into the afterlife on Dead Like Me.
Glad I'm not the only one.
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I'm not sure, but I think Fray takes place after when Firefly is set.
I'm a little iffy on dates, as it's been a while, but my reading has always been that Fray is about 200-300 years after Buffy, and Firefly/Serenity is the 26th century.
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Also, and this isn't so much a theory as a curiousity, I've always wondered why both Hi and Smalls have the same roadrunner tattoo in Raising Arizona. Hi kidnapped a baby, and Smalls mentions having been sold on the market when he was a baby. Both have crazy red hair. Is Smalls supposed to be Hi's dark side incarnate or something?
Smalls is supposed to be the bandit outlaw side of HI incarnate. Now that tatoo could mean they were related at somepoint. Or rather that tatoo just signifies their outlaw nature.

I just take it as a funny coincidence.
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My crazy personal pet theory: Punch Drunk Love is intended to be Paul Thomas Anderson's superhero film.

Little stuff supports it along the way. His love interest and his nemesis both have alliterative names. One of them even called "Mattress Man." Barry may still be crazy at the end of the film, but he does find focus, courage, and strength, all after hooking up with Lena in Hawaii. "I have a love in my life. It makes me more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

But the tipoff is Barry's design. His suit: All blue, red tie. Black hair. Jewish. The final shot of the film has Lena, dressed in all red, wrapping her arms around Barry's neck.

Not an accident.
Wow... and Punch Drunk Love just got even better.

I had a theory back in the 90's that Deputy Dewey was the third killer in Scream and would be revealed as such in the sequel. There were theories at the time whipping around the "world wide web" that there had to be a third killer for the original to make sense so I thought:
  • The killer had boots ("killer boots, man!") that looked "police issue"
  • Dewey had every reason to hate everyone
  • He certainly seemed like a bit of a weirdo.
  • When Gale Weathers showed interest in him in the 3rd act he wanted the guys to spare her life, got into a confrontation about it and they stabbed him leaving him for dead.
I thought all of this could lead to a sequel in which Dewey begins another killing spree resulting from some issue he was having with Gale... leading to another solid unexpected ending. Shame on me for thinking the sequel could be interesting and have a killer that we gave a shit about.

ETA: I still like to believe he was the third killer. Just makes it more fun for me.
post #72 of 415
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Also, and this isn't so much a theory as a curiousity, I've always wondered why both Hi and Smalls have the same roadrunner tattoo in Raising Arizona. Hi kidnapped a baby, and Smalls mentions having been sold on the market when he was a baby. Both have crazy red hair. Is Smalls supposed to be Hi's dark side incarnate or something?
I always read it that Smalls was Hi's father.

No idea what the initials 'H. I.' stand for, though Hi does work for Hudsucker Industries.
post #73 of 415
The "H" stands for Herbert. Don't know what the "I" does though.
post #74 of 415
The Saw movies were literally intended to be hardcore deviant pornography, and a very awkward conversation ensued between studio execs and director James Wan, when they discovered his little short film on the internet, and flattered by their interest, Wan just had to clear his throat and tell them that, uh, yes, of course it's a horror movie. The lingering shots of traps on body parts are actually beat off to by a tiny subset of the population, which has felt increasingly accepted by the rest of society, as the Saw movies rake in the millions, and its biggest fans finally feel comfortable raping children out in the open, as read about in every newspaper every week across the country.
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The "H" stands for Herbert.
Argh! I KNEW that! Time to watch it again.
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My crazy personal pet theory: Punch Drunk Love is intended to be Paul Thomas Anderson's superhero film.

Little stuff supports it along the way. His love interest and his nemesis both have alliterative names. One of them even called "Mattress Man." Barry may still be crazy at the end of the film, but he does find focus, courage, and strength, all after hooking up with Lena in Hawaii. "I have a love in my life. It makes me more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

But the tipoff is Barry's design. His suit: All blue, red tie. Black hair. Jewish. The final shot of the film has Lena, dressed in all red, wrapping her arms around Barry's neck.

Not an accident.
I can't find the specific link, but PTA's basically said as much. I wasn't sure if it was Superman or Popeye, though. Heh.
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Is Smalls supposed to be Hi's dark side incarnate or something?
Yep. He's all of HI's reckless, criminal tendencies, and only after he's defeated is HI able to settle down and be a family man.
post #78 of 415
I can remember when "Deckard's really a Replicant" was considered really off the wall.

Before the Matrix sequels saw release, I liked to imagine that the pills Morpheus gave Anderson were potent hallucinogens, and that the Nebuchadnezzar scenes and Agent encounters were Anderson's Stockholme Syndrome delusions.
post #79 of 415
Remember the theory the the first half of Death Proof happened before the Second Half?
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Star Wars theory I like about Yoda. He is

A) A human centuries old because of the Force

Or

B) An Ewok so old that his hair fell out.
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Speaking of Star Wars, I remember hearing people saying R2-D2 used the Force to blow up the other R2 unit so he gets bought along with Threepio, and that Obi-Wan mind-tricked Luke while he was unconscious after the Tusken Raider attack to make him believe all the garbage he tells him about his father. That's why R2 starts beeping when Obi-Wan puts his hand on Luke's head -- he thinks the old guy is up to somethin fishy.
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Speaking of Star Wars, I remember hearing people saying R2-D2 used the Force to blow up the other R2 unit so he gets bought along with Threepio.
There's a really cute little one-shot comic where it turns out that that droid was the only droid in history to be blessed with the force, and that he broke himself because he suddenly saw an image of R2 assisting the chosen one.
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There's a really cute little one-shot comic where it turns out that that droid was the only droid in history to be blessed with the force, and that he broke himself because he suddenly saw an image of R2 assisting the chosen one.
Thats from "Star wars tales" an anthology series by dark horse! Loved that series and that story, but "Thank the maker" was the best tale they did, IMO.
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Wasn't there something where IG-88 was actually plugged into the second Death Star and about to obliterate the universe when they blew it up in Jedi?
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Wasn't there something where IG-88 was actually plugged into the second Death Star and about to obliterate the universe when they blew it up in Jedi?
That sounds oddly familiar....better check.

"The remaining IG-88 uploaded his consciousness into a computer core destined for Death Star II. He succeeded in being uploaded, and was preparing to activate his program to take over all droids in the galaxy when it was destroyed. With his consciousness in the Death Star II, he would literally become the Death Star.

Emperor Palpatine was the only person on the Death Star to suspect something was wrong after the uploading of the computer core with IG-88 inside. Before the station's destruction, he noticed a series of doors in his throne room opening and closing sporadically. IG-88 did this to show the Emperor that he was not all powerful. However, IG-88 was utterly baffled when it appeared that Emperor Palpatine used some unseen force to push the doors open.[2]

Lando Calrissian and Wedge Antilles ended up destroying the core, destroying both the Death Star, and the A.I. of IG-88 as well
"

Thanks, Wookiepedia!
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Remember the theory the the first half of Death Proof happened before the Second Half?
What?
post #87 of 415
That wasn't a theory, that was a bunch of shitheads with cataracts.
post #88 of 415
I still don't get it, how could the first half not happen before the second half?
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A bunch of dipshits who didn't really pay attention when the film was viewed in theatres said that Stuntman Mike's scar wasn't there in the second round of the movie, suggesting that it took place before he rammed his front tires into Vanessa Ferlito's face.
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Is it a theory that Crank is all in a video game or is that the agreed interpretation?
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A bunch of dipshits who didn't really pay attention when the film was viewed in theatres said that Stuntman Mike's scar wasn't there in the second round of the movie, suggesting that it took place before he rammed his front tires into Vanessa Ferlito's face.
You know what my fan theory is about that shit, nearly three years later? Those people were watching bootlegs on their computers.

http://www.chud.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97045&page=6
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I subscribe to that theory as well, Phil.
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My pet theory is that in Kindergarten Cop, the biggest reason John Kimble falls in love with Joyce/Rachel is his obsession with Collin Crisp. He's spent more than a decade trying to nail Crisp, he's given up everything, including his family, and he lives in a dump eating takeout food while Crisp walks free. In the end, it's not enough to send Crisp to prison. In order to tie the fragments of his own life back together, he has to kill Crisp, fuck his wife, and raise Crisp's son Dominic as his own.

Although I don't know if that counts as an alternate take, because it's exactly what happens in the movie.
post #94 of 415
William Holden's character escaped STALAG 17 only to be captured and put into Colonel Saito's camp in BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI.
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There's a really cute little one-shot comic where it turns out that that droid was the only droid in history to be blessed with the force, and that he broke himself because he suddenly saw an image of R2 assisting the chosen one.

R5-D4 is the true hero of the OT.
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edited becasue its a dumb theory.
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Is it a theory that Crank is all in a video game or is that the agreed interpretation?
Guh? That would make the Crank films, approximately, 99.3% less fun.
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There's a really cute little one-shot comic where it turns out that that droid was the only droid in history to be blessed with the force, and that he broke himself because he suddenly saw an image of R2 assisting the chosen one.
Skippy the Jedi Droid, ha!

Sadly, it's apparently part of canon now that Artoo sabotaged R5-D4 on board the sand crawler.
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Guh? That would make the Crank films, approximately, 99.3% less fun.
That theory is what I liked about Crank. It's also why I wanted the second film to start with a flashing "CONTINUE" on a black background.
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I can't find the specific link, but PTA's basically said as much. I wasn't sure if it was Superman or Popeye, though. Heh.
Yeah, I always thought Egan was a variation on Superman. By the end of the film he's 'strong' and he can fly anywhere in the world.
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