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post #1 of 135
Thread Starter 
Yeah, it's a bit late to do this but I thought it would be a good idea to start talking about your favorite comic books from the last few years. Here's a list that the AV club did a couple months ago http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-b...the-00s,35713/.

So here's mine. I bet I'm going to be kicking myself later for not including something later.

10. Punisher Max- For taking our favorite psychopathic anti-hero and letting him brand his particular brand of justice on such hot topics as sexual slavery, War on Terror, and corporate fraud while somehow still making it entertaining as hell, Garth Ennis deserves an award. The best type of Death Wish genre type fun to be had here, while still leaving space for moments of character introspection and revelation.

9. Gotham Central- I imagine that Greg Rucka pitched this as what if Homicide Life on the Street actually took place in a world where Batman existed? And to this books' great benefit, it seems like it would be a horrible, horrible place. Placing identifiable characters in the utterly fucked environment where you can be murdered by ice laser, it makes one glad to just be able to read about super-heroics, instead of seeing it occur on the nightly news.

8. Powers- Another book that decides to look at superheros in a more realistic lens. Brian Bendis's two main characters investigate cases involving "supers", which can entail stepping into the realms of high celebrity, superhook-ups, deadly obsessed admirers, and tabloid blogs. Bendis also manages to pack in stories riffing on such varied topics as the 80s Aids epidemic and Conan the Barbarian. Also, goddamn do I love the dialogue.

7. The Human Target. A series about a person with the ability to mimic others perfectly for a price, it married noir-style storytelling techniques with drunken ruminations on the nature of individuality. Endings are what really make a story special, and the one wrapping up the story in vol. 2 is still imprinted in my mind, years later. Sobering and devastating, while making perfect thematic and narrative sense. Can't recommend this enough.

6. Achewood- A web-comic starting off as a quirky and irreverent funny about animals sharing a house, over the years it turned into a sometimes epic, often touching sprawling tale that touches on childhood, adulthood, and everything between. While still being consistently raucously hilarious.

5. Criminal- Finally! A breath of Richard Stark scented fresh air! Intensely dedicated to its Urban Jungle influenced milieu, Ed Brubaker gave us a new and interesting take on what the modern mainstream comic can be. Thought about putting Sleeper in this spot, but while that comic is more visceral and the ending iconic, Criminal is the much smarter and, ultimately, braver comic of the two.

4. We3- I like to joke that this is Grant Morrison's take on Homeward Bound. It IS a tale about a trio of animals seeking home, but with healthy heaps of hyper-technology, chaos, and complete heartbreak. Dispensing with imposing human-like (for the most part) characteristics on his heroes seen in most stories dealing with animals, Morrison manages to still have the reader care deeply for them. Which makes this an even more devastating and powerful book.

3. All-Star Superman- Grant Morrison makes another appearance on the list in this amazingly earnest take on the Man of Steel. Using mostly pre-Crisis on Infinite Earth continuity, with a heavy layer of Morrison type technological wacked-out details, this is the best iteration of Superman I've ever read. Exciting, idealistic, and regularly moving, the book gives us a goalpost for what superhero comics can be.

2. Planetary- Warren Ellis's take on genre fiction from 30's pulp books on. Subversive, funny, and comprehensively intelligent, Ellis manages to draw in equal measures insightful observations and propulsive narrative while infusing both with his trademark droll and wit.

1. 100 Bullets- THE book of the decade as far as I'm concerned. A grim series detailing the lives of people hopelessly steeped in violence, the decade long project always had its end firmly in mind. No matter that it took its time from its unaccountable attache beginnings to its later continent spanning conspiracies. This was always a story of unavoidable consequence hitting even the most entitled and accomplished individuals. The amazing artwork of its sole artist, Eduardo Risso, cannot be emphasized, with its noiresque use of light and shadow, and his monthly comic covers, which are masterpieces (I'll use the word) of the form. And then there's Brian Azzarello unmatched talent with authentic dialogue and dialect. There's a lot more to praise here, but I'll just end this with befuddlement. SPOILER! Who else would have the intelligence and sheer balls to end a series with a panel based off a famous Virgin Mary painting?


Making this list made me realize I really need to get out of the comic book ghetto I had created for myself, as the relatively few books that tended to challenge it were also the ones that stuck with me the most. Something to work on in the new year!
post #2 of 135
Great idea for a thread. Avoid spoilers please some of us still had to read them.
How would you rank Morrison's JLA?
post #3 of 135
Thread Starter 
High. Damn high. Within my top 25 for sure, top 20 probably. Can't have it in my top ten, otherwise I would be calling the list FAVORITE GRANT STORIES.
post #4 of 135
I haven't read them all so I don't know if it fell off the rails but I think the first few years of Ex Machina is right up there. And Fables as well. But all in all, Ali your list is excellent. Personally I think Planetary is number one, God I love that series.
post #5 of 135
My favorites shift around quite a bit, but I think this is a pretty solid top ten for me:

Acme Novelty Library
Alias
Astro City
Bone
The Goon
Planetary
Powers
Promethea
Punisher MAX
Strangers in Paradise

Though plenty of the others I've seen listed (100 Bullets, Criminal, Y: The Last Man, etc.) might just as easily make the list. And some days, Fables might sneak in ahead of Promethea (on the basis of consistent excellence over the long haul).
post #6 of 135
No Y, no list.
post #7 of 135
This thread makes me happy because it shows that, at the very least, this was a good decade for comics.
post #8 of 135
Y is overrated. Speaking of, I'm surprised none of you nerds have mentioned Scott Pilgrim yet.

Partial list because I know there's stuff I'm forgetting:

Fun Home
100 Bullets: Hang Up On The Hang Low
NextWave
Perry Fellowship Bible

Does Black Hole really count if it started in 1995?
Astro Polyps, but it may be too early to say

Best reprints:
Little Lulu (Dark Horse collections)
Peanuts (Fantagraphics collections)
post #9 of 135
Bone
Scott Pilgrim
The Goon
DC: The New Frontier
Punisher MAX

Yeah, Bone started in the 90s, but it finished in the 00s, and Goon started at the tail end of the 90s, so I think they can count. What I've read of Fables (the first volume) is pretty awesome too.
post #10 of 135
I think Y is top 5 for the decade for sure.

BPRD and Hellboy were going great earlier in the decade but somewhat lost their way. Same goes for the re-imagined Conan.

Top Ten was 1999 to 2001.

I love All Star Superman.

I'm eager to see how Scott Pilgrim ends

Pride of Bahgdad knocked my socks off a few years ago.

Creature Tech and Iron West too.

... I think that's 10.
post #11 of 135
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I haven't read them all so I don't know if it fell off the rails but I think the first few years of Ex Machina is right up there. And Fables as well. But all in all, Ali your list is excellent. Personally I think Planetary is number one, God I love that series.
It doesn't seem right to make the list without a Brian K. Vaughn book on it, does it? Of all his books, I would probably feel more comfortable about putting DMZ on there. It's a bit soon (at least for me) to say Ex Machina is one of the best books of the decade. Maybe when it gets closer to wrapping its main plot thread. And even though I love my Y, I've got to agree with BobClark (dammit!) A bit on the overrated side, though the way it ends almost fulfills what its advocates promise you the comic will end up being.

Fables is good, even great at times. But good god, can Willingham write awkward dialogue, and the series can get pretty pedestrian and plodding at times.
post #12 of 135
Every single mention here has been great, so i'm going to submit new ones:

-Ex Machina
-Scalped
-Fables
-Fell
-52 (just for the fact it actually worked as a weekly superhero comic book)
-Captain America
-Daredevil
-Anything cosmic related by Marvel (annihilation, War of Kings, etc)
-Midnight Nation
-The Boys
-War Stories
-Jonah Hex
-She Hulk

As for Webcomics, "The adventures of Dr McNinja" is the web's Nextwave, so it gets nothing but love here.
post #13 of 135
BEST:

--Seven Soldiers
--All-Star Superman
--Scott Pilgrim
--Seaguy
--We3
--Box Office Poison
--The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (yes, the whole thing)
--Black Hole
--The Umbrella Academy
--Transmetropolitan

FUNNEST:

--Scott Pilgrim
--Nextwave
--Seven Soldiers
--Y: The Last Man
--The Goon
--Seaguy
--She-Hulk (Dan Slott issues only)
--All-Star Superman
--Top Ten (Alan Moore issues only)
--Runaways

I'm leaving off Bone because it was mostly in the 90s, and the second half wasn't as good. I haven't read Blankets, Asterios Polyp, Criminal, or any of Bryan Talbot's stuff. I *almost* included Conan, just for the spectacular first 15 issues by Kurt Busiek, but I felt like the rest of it wasn't good enough to rate a "best of" list.
post #14 of 135
Some of my favorites:

Asterios Polyp by David Mazzucchelli
Curses/Ganges/Or Else by Kevin Huizenga
Acme Novelty Library (in particular #18, 19) by Chris Ware
The Arrival by Shaun Tan
All-Star Superman by Morrison/Quitely
Black Hole by Charles Burns
Nocturnal Conspiracies by Dave B
Eightball #23 ("The Death Ray") by Dan Clowes
Billy Hazelnuts by Tony Millionaire
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (all) by Moore/O'Neill
The Clouds Above by Jordan Crane
Louis Riel by Chester Brown
Tales Designed to Thrizzle by Mike Kupperman
I Killed Adolf Hitler by Jason
DC: The New Frontier by Darwyn Cooke

Edited to add: Footnotes in Gaza by Joe Sacco (just squeaked in the last week or two of '09)
post #15 of 135
A book that should've made it but didn't, and is now all but forgotten -

Deadenders - Ed Brubaker/Warren Pleece, Philip Bond covers. One of the best "post-apocalyptic" sci-fi books in years, centered around strong characters and relationships rather than convoluted plot and trappings. Unfortunately, it never got a true ending, but it deserves some mention.
post #16 of 135
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A book that should've made it but didn't, and is now all but forgotten -

Deadenders - Ed Brubaker/Warren Pleece, Philip Bond covers. One of the best "post-apocalyptic" sci-fi books in years, centered around strong characters and relationships rather than convoluted plot and trappings. Unfortunately, it never got a true ending, but it deserves some mention.
I would like to find out why it didnt get a proper ending; that was one great little gem.
Has "Seaguy" or "The Filth" been mentioned yet? those were some "shine on, you crazy diamond" Morrison series.
I'd like to add Garth Ennin's "Fury" series; sure, it had a few iffy moments, but its still a great read.
Also, on the subject of Garth Ennis's Punisher Max: Best story arc? I'd say "The Slavers", hands down.
post #17 of 135
Ultimatum by Jeph Loeb lol

I don't think Punisher MAX should be in the "best" list. "Most fun"? Sure. But I think I liked the arcs with Nicky Cavella and Barracuda best.
post #18 of 135
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Ultimatum by Jeph Loeb lol

I don't think Punisher MAX should be in the "best" list. "Most fun"? Sure. But I think I liked the arcs with Nicky Cavella and Barracuda best.
Good choices, but I think this list should include best in both quality and fun.
As for the "Barracuda" arcs, the second one is my favorite; the Cavella arc I enjoyed, but "Mother Russia" and "Man of Stone" are my other choices "Slavers" aside.
post #19 of 135
I really enjoyed Morrison's X-Men run, moreso than Astonishing X-Men, but I know I'm in the minority there, and I definitely wouldn't call it the best of the decade
post #20 of 135
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I really enjoyed Morrison's X-Men run, moreso than Astonishing X-Men, but I know I'm in the minority there, and I definitely wouldn't call it the best of the decade
I disliked it a lot when it came out (I believe my exact words were "I expected JLA Morrison...i got Doom Patrol Morrison", but a few years back i've come to reconsider my stance on it; The Xorn reveal still bugs me though.

EDIT: never undestood why Morrison never attempted a Fantomex mini series; on "Crazy" morrison mode, it would had been a blast.
post #21 of 135
Morrison's X-Men was VASTLY superior to Astonishing, which was basically Colossus and Kitty Pryde fanfic.

And ryoken.. seriously "I got Doom Patrol Morrison" is EVER to be considered a bad thing? You should be fucking ashamed of yourself right now.
post #22 of 135
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Morrison's X-Men was VASTLY superior to Astonishing, which was basically Colossus and Kitty Pryde fanfic.

And ryoken.. seriously "I got Doom Patrol Morrison" is EVER to be considered a bad thing? You should be fucking ashamed of yourself right now.
I already admit that i reconsidered my stance on it as a grew up; hell, I'f I could travel back in time, I'd punch my younger self for even saying that, Timecop effect be damned.
After I grew up a bit (and had finally gotten around to reading Animal Man and We3, too favorites of mine now) i guess i matured and started to enjoy Morrison more and more.
Oh, and Astonishing goes in the "fun" category; its cool and fun to read, but its not great or superb at all.
And if were going into X-men books, David's "X-factor" is this decades "little series that could, editors be damned".
post #23 of 135
Yeah, Morrison's run was at least making a concerted effort to take these pretty stale characters into some really imaginative and interesting new directions. Astonishing just felt like another tired throwback to the Claremont/Byrne stuff. Hell, even the more novel aspects, like Cyclops and Emma's relationship had been developed in a much more interesting manner by Morrison.

And with the exception of the Rock Of Ages storyline (and more specifically, the short sojourn into Kirby's New Gods territory that he unwisely expanded on in Final Crisis), I found Morrison's JLA run relatively uninspiring.

Ryoken, if you want to get a flavour of how a Fantomex mini-series would have turned out, just read Marvel Boy and then imagine it crossed with Danger: Diabolik. That's pretty much how it would have turned out. Or just read Casanova instead.
post #24 of 135
If we're going to talk possibly about runs over full titles, then I feel like it's worth mentioning Mike Carey's spectacular run on Hellblazer. After the complete, dreary misfire of Azzarello's "HEY I'M GONNA DO 100 BULLETS AGAIN BUT WITH THIS LAME BRITISH DUDE LOL", it was great to see the series go back to its roots and get possibly some of its best arcs written. The entire run from Red Sepulchre to Staring at the Wall is pretty fantastic.
post #25 of 135
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Yeah, Morrison's run was at least making a concerted effort to take these pretty stale characters into some really imaginative and interesting new directions. Astonishing just felt like another tired throwback to the Claremont/Byrne stuff. Hell, even the more novel aspects, like Cyclops and Emma's relationship had been developed in a much more interesting manner by Morrison.

And with the exception of the Rock Of Ages storyline (and more specifically, the short sojourn into Kirby's New Gods territory that he unwisely expanded on in Final Crisis), I found Morrison's JLA run relatively uninspiring.

Ryoken, if you want to get a flavour of how a Fantomex mini-series would have turned out, just read Marvel Boy and then imagine it crossed with Danger: Diabolik. That's pretty much how it would have turned out. Or just read Casanova instead.
Marvel Boy i love the hell out off, and Casanova its my next "trade hunt" series..thanks for the reccomendations.
post #26 of 135
Yeah, Mike Carey had a great run on Hellblazer. Although I kind of liked Azzarello's run too...

Come to think of it, Mike Carey's other Vertigo books have been some of my favourites of the latter part of the decade. Crossing Midnight was excellent, I thought, and The Unwritten kicked off pretty slow and really hit its stride by the 5th issue. But now I'm just listing stuff I like.

Although I will say Vertigo's probably been the imprint that had the strongest selection of books over the past decade.
post #27 of 135
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If we're going to talk possibly about runs over full titles, then I feel like it's worth mentioning Mike Carey's spectacular run on Hellblazer. After the complete, dreary misfire of Azzarello's "HEY I'M GONNA DO 100 BULLETS AGAIN BUT WITH THIS LAME BRITISH DUDE LOL", it was great to see the series go back to its roots and get possibly some of its best arcs written. The entire run from Red Sepulchre to Staring at the Wall is pretty fantastic.
I forgot about Azzarello EVEN having a run in hellblazer; guess thats a statement.

Also, Pfeifer's "H.E.R.O" series; great or fun? I absolutly loved it.
post #28 of 135
I'm one of the few people that just really doesn't like Azzarello, Alex. I absolutely HATED his Batman run, and just didn't get into 100 Bullets at all.
post #29 of 135
Azzarello's a one-trick pony but his run was unfortunately my gateway into Hellblazer, so that could be part of my fondness. Haven't read them since they were originally published though, and the artist sticks in my mind more than the writing.
post #30 of 135
You know, Im going to do the unthinkable and ask: should manga and european comics be added to the thread?
Id so, Monster, Planetes and The Metabarons should be added then.
post #31 of 135
I love Carey because he, like Brubaker, is just such a versatile writer. Not all of his stuff is great, some of his more 'corporate' stuff like the X-Men is actually pretty garbagey (like Brubaker!), but the guy can go from writing a snide, erudite Lucifer to a socially awkard genius Reed Richards (criminally underrated Ultimate Fantastic Four run) and into a full on New Gods pastiche reimagining of Thanos. Too many of the "big" writers just sit in their own sandboxes and can't break out of them.
post #32 of 135
Is Planetes really that good? I've read the first volume, and while it was mildly intriguing and decent enough, I haven't felt compelled to pick any more up yet.
post #33 of 135
I've always wondered why there's such a difference in quality between Carey's creator-owned stuff and his superhero work (with the exception of that excellent UFF run). Although having said that, pretty much everyone who writes X-Men ends up with shit smeared all over them. Even guys like Brubaker and Fraction can't make anything of that book.
post #34 of 135
The problem is that the X-Men suck, and their editorial direction sucks. In a way, Morrison kind of ruined it for everyone else by being so off the wall and different. Stupid fan reaction has now made it so that the X-Men books are all "OKAY LET'S DO THE SHI'AR AGAIN AND PUT EVERYBODY IN SPACE. YOU GUYS LIKE SPACE, RIGHT?"

Though still, Brubaker created Vulcan, so he has to take SOME responsibility for these crimes.
post #35 of 135
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Is Planetes really that good? I've read the first volume, and while it was mildly intriguing and decent enough, I haven't felt compelled to pick any more up yet.
It does, IMO.
Count me in for the love of Carey, specially because he jumps into series as the new writer at terrible moments (guy got the X-men gig right after Austen's horrible, horrible run, and had to replace Warren Ellis on Ultimate FF); Lucifer alone earns him a lifetime pass.
post #36 of 135
Hmm, nobody's mentioned Sleeper yet.
post #37 of 135
He didn't replace Ellis on UFF, Ellis only did a few issues at the start. Millar wrote the longest run of UFF, and it was uniformly awful, and introduced the atrocious, possibly worst excess of the '00s decade of stupid superhero bullshit MARVEL ZOMBIES. He also wrote it mostly with Greg Land on art, so it was pretty much what Hitler would read if Hitler was still alive and could find the time in his busy schedule of Jew-killing and landscape painting to read comic books.

Carey started on UFF with two very solid, but not exactly thrilling "specials", the Think Tank storyline and then a followup X-Men/UFF team-up.
post #38 of 135
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Hmm, nobody's mentioned Sleeper yet.
Shit, you're right.

Basically, can we just say that this list should read Warren Ellis, Ed Brubaker, Grant Morrison, Mike Carey, a little Alan Moore and a little Garth Ennis and be done with it? Because really that's what it is.
post #39 of 135
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The problem is that the X-Men suck, and their editorial direction sucks. In a way, Morrison kind of ruined it for everyone else by being so off the wall and different. Stupid fan reaction has now made it so that the X-Men books are all "OKAY LET'S DO THE SHI'AR AGAIN AND PUT EVERYBODY IN SPACE. YOU GUYS LIKE SPACE, RIGHT?"

Though still, Brubaker created Vulcan, so he has to take SOME responsibility for these crimes.
I'd say that whenever editorial gets too involved ina an X-book, it all goes to hell; I actually loved "New Mutants" and "Academy X" (it feel like old New Mutants to me) and then editorial got involved and "Young X-men" and "X-Force" happened.
hell, just look at the currnet "Utopia" arc; if editorial werent pushing events on the line, the writers could have a field day with the "mutant nation of the shore of the USA" concept.

EDIT: guess Morrison was too big for editorial to mess with, so they waited until he was off contract to mess with his work on the title.
post #40 of 135
Luca's gonna come in here and talk about The Boys now, isn't he?
post #41 of 135
He'd better not because I will give him SUCH A PINCH.
post #42 of 135
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He didn't replace Ellis on UFF, Ellis only did a few issues at the start. Millar wrote the longest run of UFF, and it was uniformly awful, and introduced the atrocious, possibly worst excess of the '00s decade of stupid superhero bullshit MARVEL ZOMBIES. He also wrote it mostly with Greg Land on art, so it was pretty much what Hitler would read if Hitler was still alive and could find the time in his busy schedule of Jew-killing and landscape painting to read comic books.

Carey started on UFF with two very solid, but not exactly thrilling "specials", the Think Tank storyline and then a followup X-Men/UFF team-up.
You're right, my mistake; although did Carey create ultimate Mad Thinker? cause that was messed up as hell,and I loved it.
post #43 of 135
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He'd better not because I will give him SUCH A PINCH.
But that will only entice him all the more!
post #44 of 135
also lol yew furgot brain micheal bendsi on yore list braid
post #45 of 135
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You're right, my mistake; although did Carey create ultimate Mad Thinker? cause that was messed up as hell,and I loved it.
Yeah, that was the Think Tank storyline.
post #46 of 135
Oh god hahaha Frenchie's origin issue last week killed me!!!

That handjob in the car!

I MUST DEFEAT BLACK PIERRE FOR ZE HONNEUR OF MY FAMILEE
post #47 of 135
*such a PINCH!*
post #48 of 135
Ouch! What was that?
post #49 of 135
It was JUSTICE.
post #50 of 135
You're just one of those capes that think they can talk about justice cuz you got superpowers and everyone opens their eyelids for you to jerk off into! Well not no more, sir! I have here an EX-SAS and an EX-MARINE (BLACK) and an UNASSUMING SCOTSMAN and a FRENCHMAN WHO LIKES BAGUETTES and a KILLER JAPANESE GIRL who will kick your ass!

Your reign of circlejerk is over, Millette!
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