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post #601 of 997
I just read about that Hitler/Obama billboard, and Sharon Angle's "God is with ME" rant.

Someone should napalm the Tea Party. They seriously get my blood pumping every time I read new stuff about these pieces of shit, and not in any good or healthy way.

It's so shameful that it's 2010 and I still gotta read 1/3 of what these worthless, hateful, ignorant dicks spew out of their mouths every day. I just can't believe they're not being steamrolled over by... ANYONE.
post #602 of 997
Yeah, the billboard is ridiculous.

One thing it showed me is that these people still suck when it comes to grammar.
post #603 of 997
Even lumping Lenin in with Hitler is pretty ridiculous.
post #604 of 997
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Even lumping Lenin in with Hitler is pretty ridiculous.
Why? Just because of the huge differences in almost everything about them?*

They both have facial hair and they're both not liked by the Tea Partiers. Isn't that enough?

*Of course knowing about such stuff would require one to indulge in book-learnin' and we can't have people doing that.
post #605 of 997
The American Taliban.
post #606 of 997
The phrase underneath the pictures is the real kicker:"Radical leaders prey on the fearful & naive." I wish these peoples heads would explode from the irony sometimes.
post #607 of 997
I really think they'll kill someone this summer. And I'm left with the same question I'm always left with, and pondered throughout the Bush Administration; are they really this stupid, or do they know they're full of shit? Stupid or dishonest, I can't see a third alternative.
post #608 of 997
I'll go for stupid. Putting up that billboard screams of group mentality.
post #609 of 997
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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post
I really think they'll kill someone this summer. And I'm left with the same question I'm always left with, and pondered throughout the Bush Administration; are they really this stupid, or do they know they're full of shit?
If it's the minions it's the former. If you're talking about the higher-ups/instigators, the latter.
post #610 of 997
Yes, it is the minions to whom I refer.
post #611 of 997
I love this:

What if the Tea Party was Black?

This rocks.
post #612 of 997
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post
I love this:

What if the Tea Party was Black?

This rocks.
Nice. Just shows how much more the country and the media tolerate hate speech from a white mouth than sharp, sometimes inflammatory, often true racial commentary from black mouths. The reactions to Rev. Jeremiah Wright vs any white evangelist aligned with the Republican Party over the last few decades being one example.
post #613 of 997
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Originally Posted by dajuice7 View Post
Nice. Just shows how much more the country and the media tolerate hate speech from a white mouth than sharp, sometimes inflammatory, often true racial commentary from black mouths. The reactions to Rev. Jeremiah Wright vs any white evangelist aligned with the Republican Party over the last few decades being one example.
USA! USA! USA! USA!



I know there's idiots everywhere round the world, but christ, this country makes me want to puke sometimes.
post #614 of 997
Whoa!

http://blog.reidreport.com/2010/07/t...-the-coloreds/

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But Williams was just getting started. Also Wednesday, he took his “non-racist” commentary to the next level, penning his version of an “open letter” to Abe Lincoln … from the “colored people…” in which he accuses black people, or sorry “coloreds,” of not wanting to work, of “striving for welfare,” and wanting to buy “flat screen TVs” with white people’s stolen money. Seriously. It’s an apparent attempt at satire, I suppose, but which aligns perfectly with the views of the tea party movement, which is by and large a mash-up of Libertarians who want to get rid of Social Security, disappointed Palin cultists and old geezer racists who believe Obama only got himself elected so he can steal all the white people’s money and hand it out in the hood.
post #615 of 997
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Originally Posted by joeypants View Post
USA! USA! USA! USA!

I know there's idiots everywhere round the world, but christ, this country makes me want to puke sometimes.
I guess we shouldn't be surprised. The nation was founded on principles that were, at the time (and still are in most cases), openly ignored: separation of church and state, equality for all, etc. We really shouldn't be shocked that we've had an ongoing problem with a national identity crisis, so to speak. We want to be isolationists, we want to be globally relevant. We want to be leaders, we want the rest of the world to carry the load. We want to spread American culture/influence, we fear the import of foreign influence (cultural, business, or otherwise). The fact that we don't round up members of the Tea Party movement and put them in front of the firing squad or in dingy jail cells to rot away for the rest of their lives is great, but the fact that we tolerate their hate speech and ugly imagery is saddening to no end.

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Originally Posted by Slestak

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...and old geezer racists who believe Obama only got himself elected so he can steal all the white people’s money and hand it out in the hood.
I would vote so hard for Obama in 2012 if he gave away cash in the hood purportedly stolen from old racist white geezers...


Make it rain.
post #616 of 997
Can we now at least put to bed the ridiculous notion that racism isn't a huge motivator behind the Tea party's bullshit? Of course this being the internet someone will pop up and ask for a signed statement by everyone who's ever been to one of those admitting they're racist before they'll accept this pretty fucking obvious truth.
post #617 of 997
See, this is where there being no central Tea Party leadership helps them out. All the happy little Tea Baggers can just say, "That's not MY Tea Party," and go about their merry way.
post #618 of 997
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
See, this is where there being no central Tea Party leadership helps them out. All the happy little Tea Baggers can just say, "That's not MY Tea Party," and go about their merry way.
I've actually heard this from people. "Any looney can show up with signs that don't represent what the entire group thinks."

Tangentially related.
post #619 of 997
God, I want to punch this guy in the face so much it's giving me a boner.

Also, some colossal dumbshit on another board I frequent is entertaining the idea of buying a 30.06 for home protection because he's "afraid of the government". I want to punch him, too.
post #620 of 997
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Originally Posted by wydren View Post
That is a great article, regardless of what side of the fence you are politically, one should read this.
post #621 of 997
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
See, this is where there being no central Tea Party leadership helps them out. All the happy little Tea Baggers can just say, "That's not MY Tea Party," and go about their merry way.
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Originally Posted by wydren View Post
I've actually heard this from people. "Any looney can show up with signs that don't represent what the entire group thinks."
Unfortunately for them, the Tea Party doesn't get that out with Mark Williams. This guy has made the news with his racist bullshit before: last September he called Obama an "Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug", and just a couple of months ago he said Muslims worship "a terrorist monkey god".

And guess what?

He still holds a position with the Tea Party Express. (Although it should be noted that, quite hilariously, he's recently been "demoted" from chairman to spokesperson. Because I guess when you've got a racist in your organization, the best position for him to have is "spokesperson".) And the Tea Party Express isn't just some fly-by-night group of protesters appropriating the Tea Party brand. They organize and host major Tea Party rallies all over the country. Including ones starring Sarah Palin.

This guy is a bona fide leading figure in the Tea Party movement, and he's a racist jackass. He's certainly not some fringe loony who just showed up at a rally, and to claim he's not "my Tea Party" is like being a liberal and claiming Rachel Maddow isn't "my liberalism". This yahoo is the Tea Party.

But my favorite thing about Williams is his "some of my best friends are black" rationalization he uses to "prove" he's not a racist:
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I was in the streets marching for civil rights while asshole southern sheriffs were swinging nail studded baseball bats at black's heads, and stood between black kids and even more fucked up northern assholes were throwing rocks and gas bombs at school buses in my hometown during forced busing for deseg (sic).
Mark Williams is 54 years old.

The Civil Rights movement took place between 1955 and 1968.

You do the math.
post #622 of 997
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
God, I want to punch this guy in the face so much it's giving me a boner.

Also, some colossal dumbshit on another board I frequent is entertaining the idea of buying a 30.06 for home protection because he's "afraid of the government". I want to punch him, too.
I'd love it if the guy ended up much more terrified of your fist - not to mention your boner.
post #623 of 997
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffr..._b_650562.html

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Originally Posted by Sarah Palin
'Refudiate,' 'misunderestimate,' 'wee-wee'd up.' English is a living language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it!'
post #624 of 997
Don't celebrity twitter accounts usually have some PR person running them and not the actual person? Does Palin actually tweet herself?
post #625 of 997
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Originally Posted by neoolong View Post
Does Palin actually tweet herself?
Oooh I hope so - that sounds hot.
post #626 of 997
What the fuck does 'wee-wee'd up' mean?
post #627 of 997
I think it's a phrase for people who are too moral to use curse words but are perfectly fine with being fucking monsters in the rest of their day-to-day activities, like Sarah Palin!
post #628 of 997
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Originally Posted by Scott View Post
I think it's a phrase for people who are too moral to use curse words but are perfectly fine with being fucking monsters in the rest of their day-to-day activities
Glad you feel that way, Obama is the one who used it.
post #629 of 997
You seem like a Palin fan. Not surprising, most misogynists are.
post #630 of 997
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Originally Posted by Scott View Post
You seem like a Palin fan. Not surprising, most misogynists are.
You're the one calling a woman a monster, pal.
post #631 of 997
Right only men can be monsters of course of course
post #632 of 997
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Originally Posted by Snaieke View Post
Glad you feel that way, Obama is the one who used it.
Oh fuck off.

Seriously, that's all you get. No debate, no explanations or discourse. You get what you're worth, and what you're worth is "fuck off".
post #633 of 997
post #634 of 997
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Originally Posted by Scott View Post
You seem like a Palin fan. Not surprising, most misogynists are.
Careful, he'll tattle on you for saying that.
post #635 of 997
The problem with Palin telling muslims to refudiate the NYC cultural center isn't just that it's dumb, it's that the idiotic content of her message is amplified by the fact that she's a fucking moron.
post #636 of 997
Not the first time Palin's used the word:

http://wonkette.com/416664/refudiate...kka-says-palin
post #637 of 997
Michelle Bachman gets approval to form a Tea Party Caucus in Congress

Perfect. Bachman just made herself the face of the Tea Party. Any time some loony says something idiotic, violent, or racist, she needs to be held accountable. She needs to not be able to take a step without someone asking her about the latest piece of Tea Party foolishness. You want to set yourself up as the leader, Michelle, you've got to take responsibility for it.
post #638 of 997
Isn't she just going to say that they're a fringe element of the Tea Party and not the actual Tea Party?

Isn't that what they've been doing any time they've been accused of racism?
post #639 of 997
I don't care. If she's going to try to ride the coattails of this movement, she's gonna have to deal with it.
post #640 of 997
Good. Let as many of those fool Republicans join that Caucus as possible. They'll end up killing their political careers due to such amazing short sightedness and opportunism.
post #641 of 997
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Originally Posted by dajuice7 View Post
Nice. Just shows how much more the country and the media tolerate hate speech from a white mouth than sharp, sometimes inflammatory, often true racial commentary from black mouths. The reactions to Rev. Jeremiah Wright vs any white evangelist aligned with the Republican Party over the last few decades being one example.
Is this a joke?

Can we not play the "what if they were black" card? That swings both ways and the double standards on both sides of that coin are far too plentiful to list in this single thread.
post #642 of 997
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Originally Posted by neoolong View Post
Isn't she just going to say that they're a fringe element of the Tea Party and not the actual Tea Party?

Isn't that what they've been doing any time they've been accused of racism?
Some of them are trying to separate the true elitists from the human bodies they're using to look like an actual movement. The more common line is that it ISN'T racism because "libr'uls did it to Bush too."
post #643 of 997
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Originally Posted by TheCynic View Post
Is this a joke?

Can we not play the "what if they were black" card? That swings both ways and the double standards on both sides of that coin are far too plentiful to list in this single thread.
What.
post #644 of 997
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Originally Posted by TheCynic View Post
Is this a joke?

Can we not play the "what if they were black" card? That swings both ways and the double standards on both sides of that coin are far too plentiful to list in this single thread.
Again, what?

There is no "what if" being implied, I'm outright stating the fact that the reaction to hate speech from whites (specifically evangelists and tv talking heads aligned with the republican party who have continually illustrated their bigotry and racism with few repercussions) versus the outrage surrounding any racial commentary from blacks is disproportionate to say the least. Again, take the Rev. Wright situation. Or, take the reactions to any comment on race relations from Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton and compare how venomous the response is compared to those from persons or groups who hide behind a political party that fosters bigotted attitudes. How many persons/groups have republicans been asked to disassociate themselves from?

The media is complicit in this. The fact that in the wake of this Shirley Sherrod business the talk has been more about the White House response than the actual corruption of the original speech by a representative of the Tea Party, aided by the Fox News Agenda, and perpetuated by other news outlets in their rush for ratings is further proof. I even heard questions being asked today in the news about how Obama hasn't already scheduled another "beer summit" to speak with Sherrod. Shouldn't we be more concerned about the Tea Party's racist agenda, Fox News' lack of journalistic integrity, and the inability of blacks to speak about their experiences with race without people intentionally corrupting their words to portray a completely different, more sinister message?

Now if you want to toss aside the lazy, worn out counter of "oh, you're just playing the race card" and give some actual examples of how there is supposedly a double standard working against whites, I'll be happy to listen. But if you think I'll change my mind because you can't possibly see how my statement could be anything but a joke, then you're underestimating the power of your rhetoric.
post #645 of 997
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Originally Posted by TheCynic View Post
Is this a joke?

Can we not play the "what if they were black" card? That swings both ways and the double standards on both sides of that coin are far too plentiful to list in this single thread.
Feel free to list some.
post #646 of 997
The problem specifically dealing with the NAACP - Shirley Sherrod - Andrew Brietbart fiasco stems from the beginning. In the beginning of this whole scandal, the NAACP issued a resolution asking for leaders to repudiate the racist elements of the Tea Party. I've seen Ben Jealous on television several times since this whole incident and he has made it extremely clear that the resolution does NOT lump all Tea Partiers as racists - rather that those racist elements need to be called out for their bullshit.

Breitbart and the conservative hacks supporting the Tea Party completely misconstrued this resolution as a broad attack on Tea Partiers across America. Yet if you read the resolution along with listening to NAACP leaders, they've made it very clear that their resolution did no such thing. People like Beck and Breitbart have no qualms in making the NAACP the enemy because they see the entire NAACP in the light the NAACP sees some of the Tea Partiers. I don't think the conservative hosts like Breitbart are racist per se, but I do think they are intellectually dishonest by trying to equate the NAACP's anger to racism to their anger of the NAACP. I do think these conservative hosts are walking a fine line however, because their comments stoke fires and they have no problem with that.

I'm the first to admit that I don't like race discussions. For too many times, I have seen discussions end so poorly because they are never thought out to the end as most end with claims of racism or reverse racism thrown about. To me, they are utterly worthless unless you have a group of people on both sides who understand what each side deals with. I am strongly against affirmative action, but that doesn't make me a racist or even unsympathetic to racism.

I've been to a Tea Party rally before (just to check it out, did not participate) and a lot of the stuff really offended me. There were racist elements, but not much. It wasn't organized, it was a few guys in the back of the crowd holding up Obama is a Muslim Kenyan signs.

To me, the problem with the Tea Party isn't its racist elements, but its ignorance and flat out rejection of ideas or facts that have been proven through history. I know a guy, a Tea Party regular, who actually thinks Abraham Lincoln was the worst president in United States history. Hell, the Campaign for Liberty thinks that Lincoln was the worst in history!

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=13379

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Caused the Civil War, Burned the South, Started the First Draft Ever, Huge Protection Tariffs, Income Tax, Corporate Welfare, Cotton Trade Takeover, Huge Deficits, US Bank/Ended the Gold Standard with the Greenback, Censorship of the Press, Imprisonment/Deportation of Political Opponents, Deported African-Americas to Liberia
Caused the Civil War?! Are you freakin' kidding me?!

As far as I'm concerned when you hold opinions like this you've already lost me. It's a total distortion of proven fact and the idea that you are promulgating that fact shows how warped your mind really is. At that rally, I saw countless Confederate flags. It's despicable really.
post #647 of 997
Sometimes I feel like at least some of fanboys' dislike of Christian Bale is because of Snaieke's avatar.
post #648 of 997
"Dear White House, dear administration: believing conservative spin about what's so wrong with you and then giving into that spin is not an effective defense against that spin. Just buying it and apologizing for it, and doing whatever they want you to do doesn't make the problem of them lying about you go away. In fact, it makes it worse...

The huge tide of negative publicity that followed these video tapes and the coverage they got on Fox wall-to-wall was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts of what happened. But it worked. Means be damned, in the end it worked."

Maddow on the Breitbart/Sherrod kerfuffle
post #649 of 997
my annoyance of anything Maddow has me not clicking on that link.
post #650 of 997
Kevin Drum suggests that pandering to the Tea Partiers drives away everyone else, and could backfire against the GOP.
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