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Damages Season 3

post #1 of 69
Thread Starter 
Surprised not to see a thread on this yet. For those who are fans of the show, it comes back on tonight on FX. What we know.....

1. The Big Bad this season is based on Bernie Madof.

2. Martin Short is Patty Hewes' legal nemesis this year.

3. Ellen Parsons is now working for the DA (and not Hewes and Associates).

4. Arthur Frobisher is supposed to make an appearance later this season.

Myself, I'm looking forward to how Martin Short does in a straight role. I don't think I've ever seen him in something non-comedic but if the casting agent that thought Ted Danson would be a great villain and Marcia Gay Harden could be sexy thinks Short has what it takes, then that's enough for me.

Cannot wait til this comes on tonight. Excited.
post #2 of 69
I kinda enjoyed season 1, on DVD, but something about it always bothered me a bit. Then, I read in an interview or such that a lot of SHOCKING stuff that happens in the show isn't determined until around the episode it happens. Like you see Ellen shooting someone and they don't know who they want there until an ep or so out. Fuck that. That's bullshit and kills a lot of my desire to watch.

That being said, the acting is good. And at least it's different than most lawyer shows.
post #3 of 69
I'll be watching. These are great.
post #4 of 69
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mediumdave View Post
I kinda enjoyed season 1, on DVD, but something about it always bothered me a bit. Then, I read in an interview or such that a lot of SHOCKING stuff that happens in the show isn't determined until around the episode it happens. Like you see Ellen shooting someone and they don't know who they want there until an ep or so out. Fuck that. That's bullshit and kills a lot of my desire to watch.

That being said, the acting is good. And at least it's different than most lawyer shows.
I don't know who was interviewed for that but I never got the "making it up as they go along" vibe when watching the show. The flash forwards feel very well planned and not just thrown in there. Especially season 2. The only problem I had with season 2 was that I guessed alot of the twists in the final episode way too soon (except the one about Patty bleeding....that one was a good reveal).
post #5 of 69
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Originally Posted by mediumdave View Post
I kinda enjoyed season 1, on DVD, but something about it always bothered me a bit. Then, I read in an interview or such that a lot of SHOCKING stuff that happens in the show isn't determined until around the episode it happens. Like you see Ellen shooting someone and they don't know who they want there until an ep or so out. Fuck that. That's bullshit and kills a lot of my desire to watch.
I've been going back and forth on whether I would tune in tonight and ultimately you summed up my reasoning for deciding not to best. I watch the show for the actors mostly because the plotting is so frustrating and ultimately I'd rather watch other things.
post #6 of 69
Loved the first two seasons. Short has me wary, but reviewers with screeners have singled him out as being quite good. I'll be there.
post #7 of 69
I kinda tuned out on the show back in Season 1, but casting has always been a strong suit.
post #8 of 69
I'll be sticking with it the whole season but it didn't "wow" me like the S1 & S2 premiers did.

I doubt that the flash forwards and the season are "make it up as you go". The season runs 12 or 13 episodes. That's kind of short to just come up with the story on the fly.
post #9 of 69
Good intro. The preview for Walton Goggin's new show took the cake for me.
post #10 of 69
From this article by Alan Sepinwall.

"But it's one that gets tiresome after a while. If everything's surprising, then eventually nothing is. Zieman and the Kessler brothers admittedly make up much of the story as they go along and try to make sense of the twists after the fact, but that defeats the point of trying to play along with the mystery at home. If the writers and actors don't know who's doing what and why, then you can interpret any scene any way and it won't matter."
post #11 of 69
Is Timothy Olyphant signed up for season 3? I've read both yes and no...
post #12 of 69
I actually think this season has me more intrigued than the previous 2. The Madoff angle is being handled very well. Also, unlike seaon 1 and especially S2, the flashforwards aren't nearly as convoluted or head scratching. We're given a basic picture of what's happened and now just need to see how it unfolds. Its got me totally hooked.
post #13 of 69
Very interesting so far but I'm still finding this season lacking. Ellen is basically a non-entity so far. What I really loved about last season was that Ellen had this really hard edge. Now that she has forgiven Patty she is just sort of going along. Patty also seems to have been toned down. It would be pretty cool if she had Tom killed, that's how it seemed with her hysterical phone call.
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post #15 of 69
He'll be a love interest for Patty.

And it's terrific television for sure. Loved loved loved seeing Junior pop up.
post #16 of 69
Ha! Yeah, that was great.
post #17 of 69
Good episode tonight, especially with Martin Short getting to shine a little more. I'm also happy that Ellen is stepping up so hopefully we'll get more from her then messing with the cute blond.
post #18 of 69
Just caught up on the past 2 episodes. Martin Short is blowing my mind this season.
post #19 of 69
Yeah, he's such a good serious actor. This better open some doors for him.
post #20 of 69
Bierko!
post #21 of 69
Is there really only 1 episode left? Seems like there's a LOT of ground to cover if we're gunna meet the flashforwards by then.
post #22 of 69
Ah, the places I check schedules just aren't up to date. Should be 13 episodes, not 10.
post #23 of 69
Two episodes left to go. I'm riveted again. This might be the most underrated show on TV.

The dream sequences in this show are unsettling. And very TWIN PEAKS-esque.
post #24 of 69
3 left to go, brother!
post #25 of 69
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3 left to go, brother!
Are you sure? I thought the previews for next week said "only two episodes left." Maybe it was two episodes left until the finale, and I misheard.
post #26 of 69
Lenny is the mvp of the show. Short is just hitting it out of the park every week.
post #27 of 69
I can't stand Martin Short, and he has been nothing but fantastic here.
post #28 of 69
What makes Martin Short even more fantastic is the fact that the guy is absolutley hysterical every time he's on Letterman. Lenny actually threatened his dad this past ep. so I wonder if he plans to get rid of him, since the guy is being a pain in ass. MY theory on the secret of Lenny's past is he either really isn't an attorney OR he's been stealing from the family.

Tom ends up killing himself (jumping off some NY bridge), as evidenced from the flashfoward last week. So the question is, who put his body in the dumpster?

Really wish more people knew about this show, it truly is underated.
post #29 of 69
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What makes Martin Short even more fantastic is the fact that the guy is absolutley hysterical every time he's on Letterman. Lenny actually threatened his dad this past ep. so I wonder if he plans to get rid of him, since the guy is being a pain in ass. MY theory on the secret of Lenny's past is he either really isn't an attorney OR he's been stealing from the family.

Tom ends up killing himself (jumping off some NY bridge), as evidenced from the flashfoward last week. So the question is, who put his body in the dumpster?

Really wish more people knew about this show, it truly is underated.
That was my first inclination.
post #30 of 69
Well, didn't we get confirmation on that last episode? The scene where they are on the bar talking about Cons and Marks. Makes it sound like he conned his way to the job and has been doing it for decades.
post #31 of 69
When Patty was dressing down Ellen, was I the only one who wanted Ellen to grab Patty, shake the shit out of her and yell, "You tried to have me killed, you fucking bitch!"
post #32 of 69
So now we can rest assured that ALL of the Tobin's are a piece of shit. They all had or tried to have someone killed. One of them actually killed someone.

Where the hell is Keith Carradine?
post #33 of 69
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So now we can rest assured that ALL of the Tobin's are a piece of shit.
Agreed. I thought Mamma Tobin had a bit of a heart. I can't believe she sacrificed her grandaughter for money. I thought it was a bit out of character. I was crushed when she died. The little bit of begging had me wanting to see the immediate destruction of the Tobins.

I have to think Lenny takes them down at this point. I hope her death uts it over the top. If Joe can kill his half sister because he thought she wasn't family, Lenny can't be too far behind.
post #34 of 69
We had a shot of Lenny reacting to that line. "Not family"
post #35 of 69
Noticed that. But he's the only one left who can. Not much of a leap.

I'm just wondering who was on the phony with Patty when she freaked out going up the stairs. Her fixer is dead. Has to be Lenny or Ellen.

Another thing that pissed me off. I know Tom's wife is upset they lost all the money but why is she upset over selling the lake house? It's a second home. It's not like he's asking her to get a job. I wanted Tom to rip into her for being such a bitch about it. Wish I had the problems of super rich people.
post #36 of 69
That was all misdirection to trick us into thinking Tom and Ellen were dating or something for most of the season, Then we find out that they were just starting a lawfirm together. But they hinted at troubles with the marriage for that reason.
post #37 of 69
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Originally Posted by zak chase
When Patty was dressing down Ellen, was I the only one who wanted Ellen to grab Patty, shake the shit out of her and yell, "You tried to have me killed, you fucking bitch!"
No, you're not alone. I don't think the show ever fully recovered from that. It's a good show, but it's impossible to buy their relationship with that hanging in the background.

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If Joe can kill his half sister because he thought she wasn't family, Lenny can't be too far behind.
I wonder if he'll even react when he's told she was actually his daughter. It's pretty bad when the nicest member of the family is the old guy who stole people's life savings.

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Originally Posted by Tati
We had a shot of Lenny reacting to that line. "Not family"
Martin Short has been the highlight of the season. His scenes are always among the best of each episode.
post #38 of 69
I know that Damages is Damages but i was still shocked when Tessa was murdered. To top it off grandma Lily Tomlin is to blame for it. It's just a fantastic show and it's sad that this will probably be the final season.

Was there a flashforward in this ep? The last one I remember was when Tom jumped off the bridge. Wasn't that a few episodes ago?
post #39 of 69
No flashforward this episode.

And the headshot on Tessa's forehead was pretty gruesome.

I read the show is trying to work out a deal similar to DirecTv and Friday Night Lights for a fourth Season. Though it seems unlikely given the really low ratings.
post #40 of 69
Damn, Tom's wife is such a douche. Waaaaa, we can't have a town house, waaaaa. Spoilt brat.

One episode to go! Shit is about to get real messy.
post #41 of 69
Ya, I would punch his wife in the ovary.

Cant wait for next week.
post #42 of 69
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Originally Posted by Dr. Murder
Damn, Tom's wife is such a douche. Waaaaa, we can't have a town house, waaaaa. Spoilt brat.
Well, he was selling all their shit without even telling her. And he did seem really close to losing his mind in that scene. Plus, it'd be hard not to harbor some resentment about losing the life savings of their entire families, fair or not. They handled it in shorthand, but I could see where she was coming from.

Something has to go really wrong with this plan for him to end up toppling off a bridge next week, though.

Nice twist to the Frobisher storyline. It could make for a great series finale if he gets nailed by his bragging to psuedo-Jim-Carrey and we get an Olyphant sighting as well!
post #43 of 69
If Olyphant returns, it'd be awesome. But i do think the personal visions for Patty and the Nanny storyline for Ellen hurt the show. It wasn't as tight as previous years.

Surprised Lenny didn't tell Joe that he killed his daughter. Would have made for an awesome scene.
post #44 of 69
Short vs. Scott was pretty great. You would think that Joe would know better then to antagonize the keeper of all the family secrets and dirt.

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Nice twist to the Frobisher storyline. It could make for a great series finale if he gets nailed by his bragging to psuedo-Jim-Carrey and we get an Olyphant sighting as well!
Yeah, Danson is finally going down!
post #45 of 69
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Well, he was selling all their shit without even telling her. And he did seem really close to losing his mind in that scene. Plus, it'd be hard not to harbor some resentment about losing the life savings of their entire families, fair or not. They handled it in shorthand, but I could see where she was coming from.
Oh yeah, I get all that, but she's been a real fucking baby about it from the start. Even when he was telling her at the start they had to sell stuff to support the family she was crying about losing their fucking beach houses or condos or whatever it was.
post #46 of 69
3 DAYS LATER

What an episode! The wait until Monday is going to be excruciating.
post #47 of 69
Well done, people who make Damages.
post #48 of 69
A nice (likely series) finale to a solid show. Probably the only flaw in this season was that their 2nd lead turned into a bit player. They kinda wrote Ellen into a corner after season 2, but considering the number of scene-chewers they had this season, maybe it would've been better if Ellen had even less to do.

Carradine turning out to be a hallucination based on a memory was a brain-bender... that had me rethinking chunks of the whole season.

Martin Short turning out to be a hero was kinda twisted and great.

Three good seasons. I suspect a lot of people will be finding this show on DVD and wondering how they missed it...
post #49 of 69
The whole Frobisher resolution felt kinda tacked on, but other than that I thought it was on par with other Damages finales, ie great.

I hope that we see more of Tate Donovan and Martin Short because of this series.
post #50 of 69
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The whole Frobisher resolution felt kinda tacked on, but other than that I thought it was on par with other Damages finales, ie great.
I wasn't buying it. No way Wes volunteers to a life sentence.

Still a great finale. Didn't see most of it coming. Shame that it looks like the show won't come back.
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