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post #51 of 76
1/27/10 at 3:43pm
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It's still troubling that parents can deny their kids access to the dictionary. "Better you misspell everything than learn the definition of 'oral sex'."
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post #52 of 76
1/27/10 at 5:35pm
DICK-shunary.

Uhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh.


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post #53 of 76
1/27/10 at 6:48pm
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"The dictionary will go back to the classroom but the parents will be given the option to determine if they want their kids to have access to that dictionary," district spokeswoman Betti Cadmus told the Los Angeles Times.
Wow, that is NOT reassuring at all. You know there's going to be a handful of idiot parents out there going, "So they'll still learn about oral sex if we give them the dictionary option! No!"
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post #54 of 76
1/27/10 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
It's still troubling that parents can deny their kids access to the dictionary. "Better you misspell everything than learn the definition of 'oral sex'."
For the life of me, I never understood the supposed utility of a dictionary when it comes to figuring out how to spell words.

You need to spell a word correctly to look it up in the dictionary.

Dictionaries are for definitions. Whenever my teachers would tell me to look up a spelling in a dictionary, I'd just roll my eyes at them


PS Spelling is one of my greatest weaknesses, but that has to do with the fact they never taught my generation phonics in Massachusetts.
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post #55 of 76
1/27/10 at 6:59pm
Generally people can get close enough to the proper spelling that a dictionary would suffice. Of course, if there was anyone that could find some sort of justification to spelling aluminum with a "z" it would be you, PK.
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post #56 of 76
1/27/10 at 7:07pm
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Generally people can get close enough to the proper spelling that a dictionary would suffice. Of course, if there was anyone that could find some sort of justification to spelling aluminum with a "z" it would be you, PK.
For some words that works, but for others I am unable to get close enough.

An example would be that until the year 2004, I spelled "maybe" "maby"

Almost all the words I know how to spell are ones that I learned through grueling repetition.


PS Aluminum is one of the words whose spelling I care most about, actually. I am annoyed that Brits pronounce it incorrectly an insert extra syllables where they do not exist.
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post #57 of 76
1/27/10 at 7:17pm
It's payback for what you New Englanders have done to their language... and tea.
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post #58 of 76
1/27/10 at 7:19pm
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Originally Posted by Timothy Q View Post
It's payback for what you New Englanders have done to their language... and tea.
Haha
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post #59 of 76
1/27/10 at 7:31pm
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post

PS Aluminum is one of the words whose spelling I care most about, actually. I am annoyed that Brits pronounce it incorrectly an insert extra syllables where they do not exist.
Oh, lord love me for doing this...

Humphry Davy, the inventor of said substance, called it alumium and then later aluminium. Therefor the way you spell and pronounce it, while considered accepatble in NA, is incorrect.
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post #60 of 76
1/27/10 at 7:40pm
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~ View Post
Oh, lord love me for doing this...

Humphry Davy, the inventor of said substance, called it alumium and then later aluminium. Therefor the way you spell and pronounce it, while considered accepatble in NA, is incorrect.
It has an official scientific spelling. Which is not ALUMINIUM.

What's next? Hydrogenium?
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post #61 of 76
1/27/10 at 8:04pm
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
It has an official scientific spelling. Which is not ALUMINIUM.
Yes, it is. At least according to the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (though they do list aluminum as an alternate spelling).

The reason is because it was discovered at a time when all new elements were given the suffix -ium.

And at the end of the day, I'll go with the guy who invented it over you.

ETA: Hydrogenium is actually an acceptable word.
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post #62 of 76
1/27/10 at 8:08pm
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~ View Post
Yes, it is. At least according to the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (though they do list aluminum as an alternate spelling).

The reason is because it was discovered at a time when all new elements were given the suffix -ium.

And at the end of the day, I'll go with the guy who invented it over you.
Interesting, but I am not sure that the IUOPAAC is the official governing body on such matters. They sound official, but I have never heard of them before.

I'll have to look this up and get back to you. Thanks for the info though.

PS It was not invented, it was discovered (IMHO). It COULD exist in nature (and probably does off in outer space somewhere), it just does not here on earth.
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post #63 of 76
1/27/10 at 8:14pm
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
Interesting, but I am not sure that the IUOPAAC is the official governing body on such matters. They sound official, but I have never heard of them before.
This is where you walk away Ryan. I assure you, your point was made.
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post #64 of 76
1/27/10 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
An example would be that until the year 2004, I spelled "maybe" "maby"
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post #65 of 76
1/27/10 at 8:21pm
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Originally Posted by Timothy Q View Post
This is where you walk away Ryan. I assure you, your point was made.
I know, I know but I just can't resist: I meant invented the name not the compound.
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post #66 of 76
1/27/10 at 8:52pm
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~ View Post
I know, I know but I just can't resist: I meant invented the name not the compound.
Fair enough.
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post #67 of 76
1/28/10 at 6:02pm
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post
Let slip the Werewolf Girls of War!!!!
SOME PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE KIDS DAMN IT! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!

Seriously, I wish I could flick every parent who won't talk to their kids about sex in the forehead really hard.

Any parent who has so many hang ups that they want to ban the dictionary is guaranteed to not explain anything to their kids about it at all. I hold these people directly responsible for every child that gets pregnant or gets an STI because they couldn't even look up the definition of 'contraceptive' let alone have access to any.
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post #68 of 76
1/29/10 at 7:02pm
Fuck Dictionaries!!

We don't nedd 'em...My kidz can find evrythin thay need on the Intrnet...EVN WORDZ!!!
I cen jus do serch an find anething I wunt!!
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post #69 of 76
1/29/10 at 7:08pm
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Originally Posted by Werewolf Girl View Post
SOME PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE KIDS DAMN IT! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!

Seriously, I wish I could flick every parent who won't talk to their kids about sex in the forehead really hard.

Any parent who has so many hang ups that they want to ban the dictionary is guaranteed to not explain anything to their kids about it at all. I hold these people directly responsible for every child that gets pregnant or gets an STI because they couldn't even look up the definition of 'contraceptive' let alone have access to any.

I understand what you're saying and Sex Ed is important, but I'll be frank and say that what I learned in school was much more helpful than what I got at home. My mom decided to give me "the talk" when I was 4 years old, and I completely freaked out. Too much information, times a million. I basically then shut up with any questions I had, and just prayed it would never be brought up again. It wasn't untill we covered that stuff in school that I got a half way decent education on the topic
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post #70 of 76
1/29/10 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by Werewolf Girl View Post
Any parent who has so many hang ups that they want to ban the dictionary is guaranteed to not explain anything to their kids about it at all. I hold these people directly responsible for every child that gets pregnant or gets an STI because they couldn't even look up the definition of 'contraceptive' let alone have access to any.
Makes me glad I got the "Furburger and Thighs" talk from my dad when I was 12. Finding dirty words in the dictionary is a right of passage, and it helps young minds find the really USEFUL dictionaries.
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post #71 of 76
1/31/10 at 10:24pm
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~ View Post
Oh, lord love me for doing this...

Humphry Davy, the inventor of said substance, called it alumium and then later aluminium. Therefor the way you spell and pronounce it, while considered accepatble in NA, is incorrect.
I just call everything on the periodic table "Unobtanium", because... well... I'm really low on funds right now.
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post #72 of 76
2/1/10 at 11:42am
How about banning Anne Frank´s diary?

I guess Schindlers List can´t be shown for educational purposes, too?
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post #73 of 76
2/1/10 at 11:48am
Seriously, at what point do you think it's justified to just start beating up people like that? The moment they say something like that just go High Fidelity on them.
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post #74 of 76
2/1/10 at 12:35pm
Point of clarification - there are now, as the article linked above notes - two published versions of Anne Frank's diary in existence. The first, the one most of us are familiar with, was heavily edited to remove many of the things that teenage girls, even ones that are hiding from murderous fascists, write about in their diaries. Menstruation, masturbation, sex, loathing for one's parent mulled over in loving detail, etc. The second, published fifteen-ish years ago, includes all of those things. It's the second version that the school isn't allowing in the eighth-grade classroom.

Now, please note, I don't agree with this choice, partially because, God, Anne Frank was in eighth grade when she wrote some of that stuff. But I can see how the school might reach for the earlier version in the face of jumpy parents. Also, as the article says, the unedited version is going to be available in the school library. Since this is making the news, you can bet more than one kid is going to make a beeline for that book, just to see what all the fuss is about.
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post #75 of 76
2/1/10 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
I just call everything on the periodic table "Unobtanium", because... well... I'm really low on funds right now.
Well if you can't obtain oxagainium your fucked.
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post #76 of 76
2/1/10 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by MissZooey View Post
Point of clarification - there are now, as the article linked above notes - two published versions of Anne Frank's diary in existence. The first, the one most of us are familiar with, was heavily edited to remove many of the things that teenage girls, even ones that are hiding from murderous fascists, write about in their diaries. Menstruation, masturbation, sex, loathing for one's parent mulled over in loving detail, etc. The second, published fifteen-ish years ago, includes all of those things. It's the second version that the school isn't allowing in the eighth-grade classroom.

Now, please note, I don't agree with this choice, partially because, God, Anne Frank was in eighth grade when she wrote some of that stuff. But I can see how the school might reach for the earlier version in the face of jumpy parents. Also, as the article says, the unedited version is going to be available in the school library. Since this is making the news, you can bet more than one kid is going to make a beeline for that book, just to see what all the fuss is about.
I can remember veriest groups trying to ban Huckleberry Finn and of Mice and Men over the years.
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