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post #7201 of 7883
5/27/10 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
If Swanson gets to make stuff up, so do I.
Oh come on. The show gave us a little on Hurley and Ben in the finale to suggest they spent some time together. Of course we don't know how long, but it was an important scene for Hurley and Ben when Hurley asked him to help, and then the scene at the church. "You were an awesome number two, dude..."
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post #7202 of 7883
5/27/10 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by J.Swanson View Post
How is he going to be advise Hurley if he dies in the next 30 yrs and Hurley is around for thousands of years?
How are you assuming that Hurley's run as island guardian was any longer than Jack's?
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post #7203 of 7883
5/27/10 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by fuzzy dunlop View Post
How are you assuming that Hurley's run as island guardian was any longer than Jack's?
He mentions to Ben that he was a great number 2, that implies that they ran things together for a fair amount of time. Why would he say that he was a great number two if the reign was less than a couple of hours?
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post #7204 of 7883
5/27/10 at 2:59pm
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Originally Posted by Ryan Bean View Post
Say what you will about how it was handled, or whether or not the characters sucked etc, but the sideways story was related to the first 5 seasons, in that it attempted to have all the main characters accept who they really were, because it's impossible to move on (in life or apparently death) unless you do so. It's all the metaphorical character-related shit the show has always bandied about, presented literally.
"Impossible to move on": a concept introduced in the very last episode.

I loved the characters, loved their individual stories, was pleased and teary-eyed when they re-connected, but even during the final episode every single viewer was not aware of the point of the flashsideways. 10 minutes of exposition explaining that to close a series is a cheat, in my book.
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post #7205 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:00pm
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Originally Posted by J.Swanson View Post
He mentions to Ben that he was a great number 2, that implies that they ran things together for a fair amount of time.
Which is a way vaguer total than "hundreds of years". They could have protected the island together for only a fucking decade for all you know.
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post #7206 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by J.Swanson View Post
This is not making anything up. Hurley wants Ben to be his advisor. To me and to a lot of people watching that means that Ben is going to be the new Alpert. How is he going to be advise Hurley if he dies in the next 30 yrs and Hurley is around for thousands of years?
Jesus. Just stop. All you do is make things up to try to back up the ridiculous crap you say. WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG HURLEY AND BEN WERE TOGETHER. We weren't told, and you filling in the blanks with a guess doesn't make it so. Why is Hurley around for thousands of years now? Because he's the new Jacob? Jack was the new Jacob, how'd that work out for him?

For all you know Hurley had to sacrifice himself 3 days later. You don't know, and stop pretending your internal fanfic becomes fact.
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post #7207 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by J.Swanson View Post
He mentions to Ben that he was a great number 2, that implies that they ran things together for a fair amount of time. Why would he say that he was a great number two if the reign was less than a couple of hours?
I could assume that Ben and Hurley make a noble sacrifice together for the island hours into their 'reign' and it would be just as plausible as you assuming Hurley was the protector for thousands of years. Not trying to be a dick, but you can't just make these willy nilly assumptions and pass them off as fact just to support your argument.
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post #7208 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:15pm
Just some thoughts.

In the Lost universe you apparently

STAGE 1: Live out your life on earth until you die and then--> STAGE 2 (optional perhaps): become a ghost that hangs around on Earth to... accomplish something? In ghost form you have your original memories and also more information so you can help your friends? --> STAGE 3: move on to the next level (purgatory world) where you forget all your memories and live out a new life until you have some kind of experience that reminds you of your Earth life in which case you are then able to make the decision to move on to the next level.
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post #7209 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:20pm
Look people, we'll all find out when we order the complete series on Blu-Ray.

Anyway, my annoying question: All evidence in the show suggests that the heart of the Island is literally impossible to find unless the Protector shows it to you. So what does the nearly-immortal Protector really have to do other than not take anyone to it?
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post #7210 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by A-Pathetic View Post
Jesus. Just stop. All you do is make things up to try to back up the ridiculous crap you say. WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG HURLEY AND BEN WERE TOGETHER. We weren't told, and you filling in the blanks with a guess doesn't make it so. Why is Hurley around for thousands of years now? Because he's the new Jacob? Jack was the new Jacob, how'd that work out for him?

For all you know Hurley had to sacrifice himself 3 days later. You don't know, and stop pretending your internal fanfic becomes fact.
Why would Hurley have to sacrifice himself 3 days later? What the show was getting at at the ending is that Hurley and Ben served together for a fair amount of time. You are coming up ridiculous with a fan fic in your head that allows Hurley to sacrifice himself 3 days later for no apparent reason when Mr Evil incarnate has just been defeated. Hurley saying that he wants Ben to help him run things and later thanking for being a great number 2 is pretty clear implication that they served together for some time. Stop bending over backwards to come up with obtuse ideas which are neither stated or hinted at in the show.

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Originally Posted by Count Floyd View Post
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Anyway, my annoying question: All evidence in the show suggests that the heart of the Island is literally impossible to find unless the Protector shows it to you. So what does the nearly-immortal Protector really have to do other than not take anyone to it?
In across the sea it is shown that one can potentially find another way of getting to the light that is not through the cave. When MiB mentions that they were trying to find one such way to the mother she asks if villagers know about this and goes on to kill them.
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post #7211 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:30pm
Now you're just being childish.

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Stop bending over backwards to come up with obtuse ideas which are neither stated or hinted at in the show.
Thats exactly what you have been doing throughout the thread.
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post #7212 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by Count Floyd View Post
Look people, we'll all find out when we order the complete series on Blu-Ray.

Anyway, my annoying question: All evidence in the show suggests that the heart of the Island is literally impossible to find unless the Protector shows it to you. So what does the nearly-immortal Protector really have to do other than not take anyone to it?
To piggy back on that. Where was the donkey wheel going to be built? There was definately a glow behind that wall that the MiB was about to make bigger. Was that the glow from the heart? And if it was, then I guess the MiB could find it because he had been there before? However, that would not really make sense, because he apparently could not find it later. Hmpf.
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post #7213 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:31pm
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Originally Posted by J.Swanson View Post
Stop bending over backwards to come up with obtuse ideas which are neither stated or hinted at in the show.
Irony!
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post #7214 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by fuzzy dunlop View Post
Irony!
Heh. Look Swanson, I think people could be a little more calmer when rebutting you, but just remember your fanfic is no greater than their fanfic. The point is, there is no solid evidence for how long Hurley had the job. We can infer things from what was said by Hurley, but then we can infer things from what we saw with Jack's tenure as the protector. It's a wash dude.
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post #7215 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by Teitr Styrr View Post
To piggy back on that. Where was the donkey wheel going to be built? There was definately a glow behind that wall that the MiB was about to make bigger. Was that the glow from the heart? And if it was, then I guess the MiB could find it because he had been there before? However, that would not really make sense, because he apparently could not find it later. Hmpf.
There has to be multiple glowy spots on the island, judging by the different locations of DHARMA stations. Which means there had to be multiple glowy things under the island that weren't "The Heart".
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post #7216 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:42pm
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
There has to be multiple glowy spots on the island, judging by the different locations of DHARMA stations. Which means there had to be multiple glowy things under the island that weren't "The Heart".
Doh, a perspective I didn't even think about. Multiple glowy spots. Was the place all glowy when Locke turned the donkey wheel? I remember the flash, but not if it was all glowy.
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post #7217 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by Teitr Styrr View Post
Heh. Look Swanson, I think people could be a little more calmer when rebutting you, but just remember your fanfic is no greater than their fanfic. The point is, there is no solid evidence for how long Hurley had the job. We can infer things from what was said by Hurley, but then we can infer things from what we saw with Jack's tenure as the protector. It's a wash dude.
I think it's fair to assume that they served together for a fair amount of time considering their dialog but to say that "Hurley sacrificed himself 3 days later" is a fanfic not supported by anything. A lot of people had been assuming that Hurley ran things for a long time before I mentioned it, go back a few pages there are posts people (devin included) who assumed that Hurley served the island for a long time based on the episode.
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post #7218 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:49pm
There was definitely glow coming from behind the wheel. Flashes of glowyness when the wheel was off-balance.

ETA: About how long Hurley ran the island - The point is there's no proof either way. Hurley and Ben could have run the island for a week or less or a hundred years or more. We don't know. No one's assumption is better than any other's seeing as how there's no evidence either way. For all we know some major shit went down the next day and Hurley and Ben had some ultrabadass adventure fighting against an alien incursion to the island that lasted for a month, prompting hurley to say what he said.
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post #7219 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:59pm
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
There has to be multiple glowy spots on the island, judging by the different locations of DHARMA stations. Which means there had to be multiple glowy things under the island that weren't "The Heart".
I'm not sure about that. The Incident suggests most of the energy pockets were just that - energy pockets. The glowing pee hole is its on separate beast at the "heart" of the Island - which suggests to me its somewhere centrally located and deep down. And I think the Orchid was built near the pee hole, hence the light seen behind the frozen donkey wheel.
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post #7220 of 7883
5/27/10 at 3:59pm
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Originally Posted by J.Swanson View Post
I think it's fair to assume that they served together for a fair amount of time considering their dialog but to say that "Hurley sacrificed himself 3 days later" is a fanfic not supported by anything. A lot of people had been assuming that Hurley ran things for a long time before I mentioned it, go back a few pages there are posts people (devin included) who assumed that Hurley served the island for a long time based on the episode.
Hey, when it comes down to it, I like your fanfic way better. Their fanfic has no imagination or emotion. But the truth is, there is no proof for either.
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post #7221 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
If Swanson gets to make stuff up, so do I.
That was beautiful.

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Originally Posted by Count Floyd View Post
Anyway, my annoying question: All evidence in the show suggests that the heart of the Island is literally impossible to find unless the Protector shows it to you. So what does the nearly-immortal Protector really have to do other than not take anyone to it?
Oddly, that's the one thing Jacob completely failed to do, but...

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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
There has to be multiple glowy spots on the island, judging by the different locations of DHARMA stations. Which means there had to be multiple glowy things under the island that weren't "The Heart".
I would agree with this except for one thing. I envisioned the glowing urine cave to be one big network with the cave entrance itself being the natural entrance. The donkey wheel, and presumably the Swan, were attempts to access that network artificially. The glowy cave itself might not be found unless you know it's there, but you can still tap in to it from the other areas.

Nothing in the text that seems to directly state that, but it's supported, in my opinion.
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post #7222 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
I'm not sure about that. The Incident suggests most of the energy pockets were just that - energy pockets. The glowing pee hole is its on separate beast at the "heart" of the Island - which suggests to me its somewhere centrally located and deep down. And I think the Orchid was built near the pee hole, hence the light seen behind the frozen donkey wheel.
I doubt it. The urine cave is fairly near the beach where the plane crashed. The Hatch was a bit in the jungle, so MAYBE the Swan was near the glow from the urine cave. But The Orchid was pretty far off, and I think it was near the Temple, actually.
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post #7223 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:06pm
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
I doubt it. The urine cave is fairly near the beach where the plane crashed. The Hatch was a bit in the jungle, so MAYBE the Swan was near the glow from the urine cave. But The Orchid was pretty far off, and I think it was near the Temple, actually.
Lostpedia says Orchid station was North/Northwest of the beach camp and past the four toed statue. This is a fan made map made prior to The Orchird's introduction, but it suggests it could be around where its labeled signal fire.

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post #7224 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:06pm
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
I'm not sure about that. The Incident suggests most of the energy pockets were just that - energy pockets. The glowing pee hole is its on separate beast at the "heart" of the Island - which suggests to me its somewhere centrally located and deep down. And I think the Orchid was built near the pee hole, hence the light seen behind the frozen donkey wheel.
I definitely didn't think about this until now, but you might be right. I always assumed the energy pockets and the glowy stuff to be the same though, since whatever was in the Swan pocket could make your mind time travel when the energy was released via the failsafe. Convenient magnetism seemed to be a quality shared by these spots as well (except for the pee cave area).
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post #7225 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:07pm
re: How long Hurley was running the island: How long did Sawyer know Hurley? Think about that for a minute... the answer is probably less than five months. And that was enough time to create an eternal bond.

Hurley could have been running the Island for 100 days for all we know and the dialogue he has with Ben would have still been valid.
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post #7226 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:09pm
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
Lostpedia says Orchid station was North/Northwest of the beach camp and past the four toed statue. This is a fan made map made prior to The Orchird's introduction, but it suggests it could be around where its labeled signal fire.
That's not 'just north.' The urine cave is on the other side of the bamboo where Jack woke up in episode 1, and that bamboo is about a three minute walk from the beach. The four toed statue is much farther north, way too far to share a cavern with the Swan.

Also, that map looks wrong to me. I'd bet money on Palau Ferry being on the other side of the island.
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post #7227 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:13pm
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
Also, that map looks wrong to me. I'd bet money on Palau Ferry being on the other side of the island.
There are a bunch of maps. They all have Pala at or near the top left hand side of the Island. Though Hydra Island seems to have shifted.



ETA: This one has The Orchird about where i thought it would be. And Hydra moves again!

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post #7228 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:13pm
But even if the map is right and everything is where you say it is, how is the glow - which comes from the cork stopping up the evil energy - possibly reaching locations miles away?
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post #7229 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
But even if the map is right and everything is where you say it is, how is the glow - which comes from the cork stopping up the evil energy - possibly reaching locations miles away?
No you're right. The bamboo field was near the beach camp. So the if the pee cave is near there, its definitely not near The Orchird.
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post #7230 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:18pm
That second map doesn't make any sense and I wouldn't rely on it. It has Hydra island in the total wrong place. Sayid would have spotted that ten minutes into his "mapping the island" period in season 1.
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post #7231 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
That second map doesn't make any sense and I wouldn't rely on it. It has Hydra island in the total wrong place. Sayid would have spotted that ten minutes into his "mapping the island" period in season 1.
I don't like the second map at all. I was using it show Devin that even the worst maps have Pala at the top of the map. That seems to be consistent on all. And I do recall the Losties sailing past the Four-Toed statue to get to the dock. It's the firs time we get a glispe of it.
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post #7232 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by J.Swanson View Post
I think it's fair to assume that they served together for a fair amount of time considering their dialog but to say that "Hurley sacrificed himself 3 days later" is a fanfic not supported by anything. A lot of people had been assuming that Hurley ran things for a long time before I mentioned it, go back a few pages there are posts people (devin included) who assumed that Hurley served the island for a long time based on the episode.
I didn't say that Hurley died 3 days later. I said it was just as likely as
the nonsense you are making up. The fact that you don't catch on to that surprises me very little.
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post #7233 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:23pm
There were two different docks, right?

ETA: The dock featured at the end of Season 2 is distinctly different from the one they were using later.
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post #7234 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:27pm
Couple of points that have occurred to me since the finale:

First, Walt: Did the writers originally plan that the show would progress in "real time" ie 1 year per season and then change their minds? Otherwise did they not realize that young boys tend to grow fast? Do people think that they at one time saw Walt as playing the role in the series that Desmond ultimately played? The special one with powers that led to us learning more about the island and various parties wanted to exploit?

Second:
Do you think they considered making one of the existing anomalies the "heart" of the island? In retrospect, it could have been awesome for the Locke/Jack/Desmond showdown to take place in the ruins of the Swan or down by the Donkey Wheel?

Fan wank time: what if instead of introducing the Heart from nowhere they had said the donkey wheel has the power to destabilize the island, but any "normal" person is simply transported away from the island before they can turn it too far. Desmond's special abilities would let him keep turning it until the island is destroyed...
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post #7235 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by joeypants View Post
Also:

I couldn't help but that Jack's tenure as protector seemed very, very different than Jacob's. We didn't see Jack do anything that would remotely require powers or special knowledge
Sorry if this has been addressed in the last few pages.

But I got the impression that going down into the wading pool of souls was super deadly. Only Desmond could do it until Jack got powered up and could follow him down and replace the mystic cork.

Cheers
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post #7236 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:36pm
Are we going to debate topography next?

Reading a Lost thread on another forum it's funny how a. People still don't get the ending. Multiple people clinging to the notion that none of the show actually happened and they were all dead the whole time and b. the criticism is sharply divided along the same lines as it is here over not only the ending but the entirety of the series run.
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post #7237 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by joeypants View Post
I could forgive them for some of this (Walt), but SOOOOO much of the bullshit that got dropped was added after they negotiated the end date. They could've easily kept it simpler and had a much better outline for the progression to the end.
Echo. The bullshit around Walt is tolerable for me but the should have been more careful about the path towards The End. They were kind of sloppy regarding the extra writers work, plotholes and I still don't understand why they took so much time crafting The Constant just to throw an Out of time Purgatory in The End.

Ab Eterno and the references about PUrgatory: too much wink wink.
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post #7238 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:45pm
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Originally Posted by Feral Akodon View Post
I still don't understand why they took so much time crafting The Constant just to throw an Out of time Purgatory in The End.
Bwha?
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post #7239 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by masonreloaded View Post
Couple of points that have occurred to me since the finale:

First, Walt: Did the writers originally plan that the show would progress in "real time" ie 1 year per season and then change their minds? Otherwise did they not realize that young boys tend to grow fast? Do people think that they at one time saw Walt as playing the role in the series that Desmond ultimately played? The special one with powers that led to us learning more about the island and various parties wanted to exploit?
I think it's agreed that the show was just throwing as much weird shit at the wall as it could in the first season to see what stuck. I kind of doubt they ever really knew where they were going with Walt. It's possible Desmond took over for him, but then I also think Desmond ended up replacing Mr. Eko, too.
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post #7240 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:48pm
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Originally Posted by gobblox View Post
Woah, was the 3 years thing said in show? I didn't catch that.

Oh, sidenote, I know it's a small thing but I would have liked to know a reasoning behind some of the more... distinct noises that smokey made. Like the crazy mechanical sound that was sort of like a rollercoaster going slowly uphill.
That's an incredibly small thing. I think the answer is "cool sound effect"

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Originally Posted by Chris Allen View Post
"Impossible to move on": a concept introduced in the very last episode.

I loved the characters, loved their individual stories, was pleased and teary-eyed when they re-connected, but even during the final episode every single viewer was not aware of the point of the flashsideways. 10 minutes of exposition explaining that to close a series is a cheat, in my book.
Well, it was (technically) a twist. It doesn't invalidate the rest of the sideways stories, it just forces us to view them differently when looking back on them. It's not a cheat to not reveal key plot information/twists until maximum-impact moments. Movies do it all the time.

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Originally Posted by Count Floyd View Post
Look people, we'll all find out when we order the complete series on Blu-Ray.

Anyway, my annoying question: All evidence in the show suggests that the heart of the Island is literally impossible to find unless the Protector shows it to you. So what does the nearly-immortal Protector really have to do other than not take anyone to it?
My guess is that the well, Dharma stations, etc were tapping into various ports of the "heart", and they could eventually map it back... maybe. Which leads me to:

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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
I'm not sure about that. The Incident suggests most of the energy pockets were just that - energy pockets. The glowing pee hole is its on separate beast at the "heart" of the Island - which suggests to me its somewhere centrally located and deep down. And I think the Orchid was built near the pee hole, hence the light seen behind the frozen donkey wheel.
Think of the center of this wheel as the piss cave, and the magic wells as the arms:
Frozen donkey wheel/dharma symbol anyone?
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post #7241 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:50pm
Except that doesn't work geographically.
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post #7242 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:53pm
Hah, only just realised that Jacob's last meeting with the Losties was him with his natty 'modern wear' get up. Same basic design as his traditional 'Roman' costume, but all Gapified. I think it's a fair supposition that Dharma found some of the wells that the Others (from Jacob's time) had been digging and came across natural 'seepage' from the heart.
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post #7243 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:53pm
@Devin: Well, I didn't mean it literally. Just a visual tool.
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post #7244 of 7883
5/27/10 at 4:57pm
Maybe the heart of the island was like the head of an octopus... whose tentacles would then represent the wells.

Or hell, a heart with veins that run all over the island.

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Originally Posted by Ryan Bean View Post
That's an incredibly small thing. I think the answer is "cool sound effect"
Oh yeah, I realize this. The only thing that ever made me care about the monster's sounds was the way that Rose mentions that it sounded familiar. Later, I think we found out (either through a DVD extra, an interview, or podcast) that the *scritchyscritchyscritchy* or "hissing" sound was the sound of a NY Taxi cab receipt machine. I think it also matched up with the sound of an adding machine that Locke was using in an episode. Made ya kind of think that it was pulling sounds from their minds or something (which it still very well could have been, with its scanning abilities).
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post #7245 of 7883
5/27/10 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by Count Floyd View Post
but then I also think Desmond ended up replacing Mr. Eko, too.
Actually, I'm pretty sure they strongly hinted that Locke ended up doubling up with some of Eko's planned duties.
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post #7246 of 7883
5/27/10 at 5:06pm
Reminds me of a quite long, complex theory I remember reading somewhere during early Season 2 about how the Island is future bizarro Manhattan, complete with Statue of Liberty foot. It had map diagrams plotted out and everything.
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5/27/10 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
re: How long Hurley was running the island: How long did Sawyer know Hurley? Think about that for a minute... the answer is probably less than five months. And that was enough time to create an eternal bond.

Hurley could have been running the Island for 100 days for all we know and the dialogue he has with Ben would have still been valid.
It always seemed strange to me that technically, Sawyer and Miles were better friends then Hurley and Charlie.
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post #7248 of 7883
5/27/10 at 5:12pm
How reliable is the geography of the island? Even putting aside the random structures that appeared out of nowhere this season like the Lighthouse, the geography of the island and where one location is relative to the next has never been all that consistent.
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post #7249 of 7883
5/27/10 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by Chris Allen View Post
"Impossible to move on": a concept introduced in the very last episode.
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"Letting Go" was present throughout the whole season wasn't it?


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Originally Posted by gobblox View Post
Just some thoughts. - In the Lost universe you apparently

STAGE 1: Live out your life on earth until you die and then
STAGE 2 (optional perhaps): become a ghost that hangs around on Earth to... accomplish something? In ghost form you have your original memories and also more information so you can help your friends?

STAGE 3: move on to the next level (purgatory world) where you forget all your memories and live out a new life until you have some kind of experience that reminds you of your Earth life in which case you are then able to make the decision to move on to the next level.
STAGE 3:Wasn't their sideways/purgatory life the same life, but free of the influences of the island and Jacob throughout?

Cheers
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post #7250 of 7883
5/27/10 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by Syd View Post
It always seemed strange to me that technically, Sawyer and Miles were better friends then Hurley and Charlie.
There are different levels of relationships.

Sawyer and Miles shared a great, deep friendship but Hurley and Charlie loved each other. The difference between friendship and family.

Miles' story was about his relationship with his Father. Which he got to live out as they both desired in AltPurg.

Cheers
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