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post #1 of 43
2/3/10 at 7:26pm
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In a live satellite interview with Mel, Chicago's WGN-TV reporter Dean Richards stumbled off the subject of movie promotion when he asked Mel if he thought the public would perceive him any differently after all that's been in the news about the Aussie actor the past several years. When asked for specifics, Richards pin pointed the DUI arrest in which Gibson rattled off a few less than favorable phrases.

"That's almost four years ago, dude," Mel replied. "I moved on. I guess you didn't".

The interview gets back on course and they quickly finish up, once again mentioning the movie.

Nothing spectacular there...until Mel thinks the live feed has been cut and he mutters "asshole".
My ass he thought the live feed had been cut. He knows what he's doing..

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post #2 of 43
2/3/10 at 7:40pm
I'm a little torn about this. "I moved on" he said. Oh, well if you've moved on, Mr. Gibson, I guess we should just forget about it? Part of me like to watch him squirm. You can't say he didn't dig his own hole.

That being said, I'm getting sick of reporters bringing it up during interviews. What do they expect, that he'll actually want to have a heartfelt chat about it? No, these people just want ratings and buzz. It's stupid.

I'm surprised Gibson doesn't have shows sign some sort of waiver vowing they won't bring it up.

EDIT: After actually watching the clip, I think the interviewer wasn't being too out of line. He didn't come right out and bring up the arrest and anit-Semitic rant. In fact, it was Gibson who brought it out of him. I think the original question he asked was somewhat valid, if not a little tired.
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post #3 of 43
2/3/10 at 7:44pm
Ha! That was pretty hilarious.
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post #4 of 43
2/3/10 at 8:42pm
At least he went through the necessary mea culpas.
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post #5 of 43
2/3/10 at 8:46pm
The Colonel should put to rest any view that Gibson is no longer cool.
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post #6 of 43
2/3/10 at 8:51pm
Huh? The Colonel is uproarious.
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post #7 of 43
2/3/10 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
The Colonel should put to rest any view that Gibson is no longer cool.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"Este vídeo incluye contenido de Jimmy Kimmel Live, quien ha decidido bloquearlo en tu país."
"This video contains material from Jimmy Kimmel Live, who has decided to block it in your country"

Kimmel, you bastard!
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post #8 of 43
2/3/10 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by matches View Post
At least he went through the necessary mea culpas.
Mel may have apologized for getting a DUI but he's denying saying the slurs. I've seen him say what was reported isn't exactly what happened in promoting his movie.

Mel should expect these questions and they are legit. Some people don't look at Tom Cruise the same way and this is his first starring movie since.
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post #9 of 43
2/3/10 at 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by matches View Post
At least he went through the necessary mea culpas.
Yeah, but he's still a raging nutbag catholic traditionalist anti-semetic conspiracy theorist so what does a PR induced mea culpa actually mean anyway?
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post #10 of 43
2/3/10 at 11:37pm
If Mel's looking for forgiveness, he's in the wrong profession.
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post #11 of 43
2/3/10 at 11:41pm
Eh, as long as he continues to be bankable, he doesn't need forgiveness. Even if he proves to have lost some of his pull over the last four years, he still has a debt that cannot be repaid hanging over the head of the biggest star in town outside of Will Smith.
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post #12 of 43
2/4/10 at 1:39am
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post
Yeah, but he's still a raging nutbag catholic traditionalist anti-semetic conspiracy theorist so what does a PR induced mea culpa actually mean anyway?
"Asshole."
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post #13 of 43
2/4/10 at 2:32am
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Originally Posted by User_32 View Post
"Asshole."
Yeah I picked that up the first time.
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post #14 of 43
2/4/10 at 12:10pm
Mel might have to answer for some shit, but certainly not during a press junket, and certainly not to THAT fucking guy.
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post #15 of 43
2/4/10 at 3:14pm
So press junkets should just be all about fluff and free promotions for filmmakers? I say give 'em hell, Harry. Mel's lack of appeal to audiences is certainly an issue. I can see why Mel would shy away from wanting to talk about it, but its there.

This reminds me in a way of when Billy Bob Thorton compaired himself to Tom Petty in that Canadian interview. These things exist, and need to be framed in perspective.
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post #16 of 43
2/4/10 at 3:18pm
Press junkets ARE all about fluff and promoting movies...
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post #17 of 43
2/4/10 at 3:22pm
Sure, they are, but should they be? If someone has a pair of balls and a press pass, I say go for it. It wasn't an innpropriate question.
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post #18 of 43
2/4/10 at 3:30pm
Thing is... it's a topic that's not gonna be covered in any meaningful way with the limited amount of time each of these people get to interview anyone. So to surprise the interviewee with such a shock question is kind of a dick move, because there won't be any nuance. Just more sensationalizing.
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post #19 of 43
2/4/10 at 3:34pm
I'd still vote for Mel Gibson if he ever made the decision to run for political office.

Back on topic, I love how some two-bit fuck at Chicago's answer to the fucking Superstation thought he was going to get an answer.
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post #20 of 43
2/4/10 at 3:40pm
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
Mel may have apologized for getting a DUI but he's denying saying the slurs. I've seen him say what was reported isn't exactly what happened in promoting his movie.

Mel should expect these questions and they are legit. Some people don't look at Tom Cruise the same way and this is his first starring movie since.
I don't understand. Is Joss Whedon a jew?
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post #21 of 43
2/4/10 at 4:09pm
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post
Yeah, but he's still a raging nutbag catholic traditionalist anti-semetic conspiracy theorist so what does a PR induced mea culpa actually mean anyway?
Nothing, that's why it was funny that he said it.
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post #22 of 43
2/4/10 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by Cigam Retah View Post
So press junkets should just be all about fluff and free promotions for filmmakers?
And free content for the fella on the other side of the interview setup. Both sides benefit, otherwise no one would do it.

Having Mel Gibson hand-delivered to you in that context and asking those "controversial" questions (which weren't even well-researched or thought out - "well, you know, the problems with drinking...") isn't exactly hard-hitting journalism.
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post #23 of 43
2/4/10 at 4:13pm
It may not be hard-hitting journalism but it's certainly the right thing to do.
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post #24 of 43
2/4/10 at 4:15pm
The weak opening of EDGE OF DARKNESS proved that Mel DID need to address that stuff at the junket.
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post #25 of 43
2/4/10 at 4:16pm
The WGN guy aside, did it come up at all? And do you think answering those questions would have helped the opening? I could see a "Mel Confesses" campaign out of the gate as a buzz-generator, but otherwise...
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post #26 of 43
2/4/10 at 4:17pm
A local LA guy brought it up in his TV interview. It didn't come up at the press conference.
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post #27 of 43
2/4/10 at 4:56pm
Eh, that's too much like saying Polanski needs to answer questions about 1977 whenever he wants to promote a film he's made. If the WGN guy is claiming some moral imperative, he shouldn't be complicit in the film's promotion in the first place.
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post #28 of 43
2/4/10 at 5:02pm
So in Autofocus, Ed Begley Jr. is the asshole.
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post #29 of 43
2/4/10 at 5:10pm
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Eh, that's too much like saying Polanski needs to answer questions about 1977 whenever he wants to promote a film he's made. If the WGN guy is claiming some moral imperative, he shouldn't be complicit in the film's promotion in the first place.
Well, I think Polanski should have answered questions about 77 when promoting his next movie. But then again, Polanski isn't making generic action films, so he's selling to a different audience. The mainstream audience a EDGE OF DARKNESS needs wanted a Mel who addressed not just his drunkeness and his Jew hating but his crazy beard and weirdo movie choices. He's not a guy they can 'get' anymore.
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post #30 of 43
2/4/10 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by Cigam Retah View Post
So in Autofocus, Ed Begley Jr. is the asshole.
Not sure, let me set my time machine to 2002 and rewatch Autofocus so I can follow along.

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Well, I think Polanski should have answered questions about 77 when promoting his next movie. But then again, Polanski isn't making generic action films, so he's selling to a different audience. The mainstream audience a EDGE OF DARKNESS needs wanted a Mel who addressed not just his drunkeness and his Jew hating but his crazy beard and weirdo movie choices. He's not a guy they can 'get' anymore.
I got ya. That's a WAY larger issue than fielding a couple ill-considered junket questions would fix, though. Mel needs more of a PR makeover to fix all that. (I wonder, had Edge of Darkness been any good, would any of this mattered?)
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post #31 of 43
2/4/10 at 5:12pm
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
Not sure, let me set my time machine to 2002 and rewatch Autofocus so I can follow along.
Ed plays a junket reporter who slams Crane for participating in a War Comedy, the scene plays like he has the moral high ground. Just saying.
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post #32 of 43
2/4/10 at 6:04pm
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
Eh, that's too much like saying Polanski needs to answer questions about 1977 whenever he wants to promote a film he's made. If the WGN guy is claiming some moral imperative, he shouldn't be complicit in the film's promotion in the first place.
Yeah, what's with all the badgering of the child rapist and anti-Semite. They're over it, why aren't you guys?
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post #33 of 43
2/4/10 at 6:15pm
So what would Gibson's response, in this five-minute window of interview time, have been either sufficient to placate your faux-outrage? I suspect an easily digestible sound bite would have been so superficial you'd be weeping blood. So walk me through the options:

Vacuous TV reporter sticks to the menu and promotes the movie as agreed;

WGN demands Gibson answers these hard-hitting questions, pre-empting According To Jim to bring you this tough piece of no-spin journalism;

Recognizing that he'll never give an answer (in a five minute promo piece) with enough gravity to satisfy the likes of you, Mel Gibson vanishes from the earth, never to sully the sacred art of movies with his kind again.

Seriously, explain to me without the jackassery how that interview should have gone. He acts contrite for two minutes then tells you how awesome Edge Of Darkness is, and you guys are cool?
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post #34 of 43
2/4/10 at 6:17pm
My faux-outrage? Who are you again?
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post #35 of 43
2/4/10 at 6:17pm
You really fucking suck at one-liners, so give answering my questions a whirl. I don't know who you are either, so that's a push.
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post #36 of 43
2/4/10 at 6:18pm
You've been faux-outraged.
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post #37 of 43
2/12/10 at 10:12pm
You picked a bad time to get Philled, Cordo.

WOOO PHIL I LOVE YOU
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post #38 of 43
2/12/10 at 10:31pm
I don't think Gibson can re-hab his image at this point. The narrative of "Crazy Jew Hating Christian Violence loving Drunk Weirdo" is now fixed in the Press and much of the Public.

Not helped by the fact that much of the image is true.

Fuck it, if makes Braveheart 2: Braveharder, I'm there!
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post #39 of 43
2/12/10 at 10:52pm
I dunno, I think alot of these stars have skeletons in the closet...and how else do you think Gibson channeled all that batshit insane rage for his movie roles? If racism gets them acclaim, so fucking-be-it.
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post #40 of 43
2/14/10 at 11:36am
I think Gibson needs to realize that those questions are most likely going to jump up from time to time (especially now that it might be easy to get a rise out of Mel over them).

That said, as Phil said, 'reporters' like bald Chicago no name guy aren't going to get anything more then he got.
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post #41 of 43
2/14/10 at 1:28pm
Thing is, Gibson and Polanski have addressed their issues...over and over. Gibson had this really cringe inducing interview (I think with Diane Sawyer?) shortly after his arrest, and Polanski has discussed his incident in numerous interviews.

But the Press keeps bringing them up to knock these guys down, to generate ratings, or out of real dislike.
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post #42 of 43
2/14/10 at 3:35pm
Well it's the price you pay being a celebrity...it goes both ways in the extreme. When you you deal with fame, you deal with merciless individuals who just want ratings...whether by praising or damning you.
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post #43 of 43
2/17/10 at 2:32pm
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You picked a bad time to get Philled, Cordo.

WOOO PHIL I LOVE YOU
Haha, yeah. His weirdly sympathetic defense of an anti-semite by comparing him to a child molester really left me with egg on my face.
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