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post #1 of 33
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Thanks to a combination of Facebook and Rain Dog's Avatar I am reminded of the greatness of these films.

Excellent Adventure is in itself a perfect film. Everyone in the cast looks like they were having a blast filming this and who can blame them. Whe you have Billy the Kid and Socraties trying to pick up women in a mall you know the film is a winner.

As for Bogus Journey I think this is one of the few times a sequal sucessfully tells a different story with the same charaters without it feeling forced. And the Time Travel Duel ending is just one of the most genius things I have ever seen.

If you don't love these films you are dead inside.
post #2 of 33
EXCELLENT ADVENTURE is good time, but BOGUS JOURNEY is the one that's a perfect film.

RIP Carlin.
post #3 of 33
I was watching the end of B&TEA the other night, and my wife said, "You give me crap about watching Twilight, but you watch this?" I said, "This is supposed to be stupid. Twilight wasn't intending to be stupid, it just was." I still use the phrase "Strange things are afoot at the Circle K" to this very day.

Don't know which one I like more...I actually just put both soundtracks on my iPod about 3 weeks ago. Fun fact--the song "Two Heads Are Better Than One" by Power Tool is actually the Nelson brothers pre-"Love and Affection".

Alex Winter and Keanu Reeves have talked about doing a 3rd one where B&T are just bloated, old, and lazy bastards who have to clean up in order to straighten out their grandkids or something like that.
post #4 of 33
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I still use the phrase "Strange things are afoot at the Circle K" to this very day.
I say "most non-triumphant" all the time because of this movie.
post #5 of 33
I'm much more in the EXCELLENT camp. It's the perfect "stupid" movie. Plus it gave us the immortal "San Dimas High Football rules!"

BOGUS I only saw once, but I couldn't get into it save for William Sadler's amazing Grim Reaper. He almost single-handedly saves the film for me, but I still consider it a far dropoff from the first one.
post #6 of 33
I'm with Zak on this one: 'Bogus Journey' mops the floor with 'Excellent Adventure', mainly because of Sadler's Grim Reaper. I also love how Joss Acklund's plays the bad guy (name escapes me) with complete EARNESTNESS.
post #7 of 33
De Nomolos. It's Ed Solomon's name backwards (he wrote the movies, along with another stupid favorite of mine, Mom & Dad Save The World).
post #8 of 33
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De Nomolos. It's Ed Solomon's name backwards (he wrote the movies, along with another stupid favorite of mine, Mom & Dad Save The World).
Now there's a quirky little non-trilogy.
post #9 of 33
I love both, but Excellent edges out Bogus for nostalgic reasons.

Calmly exclaiming "Triumph Napoleon!" while smacking the monopoly board was considered a legitimate game winner in my family.
post #10 of 33
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I can't watch anything with Joss Ackland in without saying "I am De Nomolos" or "Now What is your misson!"
post #11 of 33
The fact that his full name turns out to be Chuck De Nomolos and that he was Rufus' gym teacher is glorious. Bogus Journey FTW.
post #12 of 33
Honestly, Bogus Journey just inches ahead for me, but on any given day and depending on my mood, either can be my favorite.

Sadler is truly the MVP of both films combined tho.

Don't overlook my butt, I work out all the time. And reaping burns a lot of calories.

...and between these flicks and Freaked, Alex Wnter deserved a proper career.
post #13 of 33
Does anyone remember Winter's very short-lived MTV series The Idiot Box? When I was 21, it seemed pretty funny. I did like his superhero parody, The Burrowing Bishop, a crime-fighting clergyman with a giant screw on his head that he used to tunnel underground.
post #14 of 33
don't forget that the other co-writer was Chris Matheson, son of Richard Matheson.
post #15 of 33
Was that the same show with the "It's a belt!" commercial? It was a commercial for a piece of wood, like half the length of a broom handle, and they talked about all the things you could do with it, and one of them was "It's a belt!" and they showed the wood crammed through the belt loops on somebody's pants. And speaking of Alex Winter, "Freaked" is still a weird favorite as well...because it's so damn, well, freaky.
post #16 of 33
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Does anyone remember Winter's very short-lived MTV series The Idiot Box? When I was 21, it seemed pretty funny. I did like his superhero parody, The Burrowing Bishop, a crime-fighting clergyman with a giant screw on his head that he used to tunnel underground.
Lockjaw! He's one tough cop... who never got a tetanus shot!
This weel on Lockjaw: "A Fistful of Drool!"
post #17 of 33
I still use the phrase "I've got a full-on robot chubby" when I want to get amorous with the girlfriend.


I watched Bogus Journey just last week and still loved it, so funny and charming. It's been mentioned but the 'Chuck' De Nomolus joke had me laughing for a while.
post #18 of 33
Thread Starter 
Bill: "If you were good us' and had to defeat bad robot us' what would you do?"
Ted: "Build good robot us' "

Another of my favorate lines.
post #19 of 33
Excellent Adventure had Jane Wiedlin as Joan of Arc, so I declare it winner. Additionally, I've been known to use these lines of dialogue:

"Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."

"San Dimas High School Football rules" (useful for escaping uncomfortable situations, I might add)

and my personal favorite

"We're with you, Mr. the Kid!"
post #20 of 33
I think I pimp these every time Bill & Ted come up, but Evan Dorkin did a really fun comic series after BOGUS JOURNEY. It built on the insanity of the second one and you could tell he had a ball with it. Slave Labor's reprinted the series in two volumes, and it's worth picking up.
post #21 of 33
"Best of seven???"

"DAMN RIGHT!"

I crack every time I see that part. Love these movies.
post #22 of 33
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"Best of seven???"

"DAMN RIGHT!"

I crack every time I see that part. Love these movies.
Sadler's expression of pure frustration while he plays that magnetic football game kills me every time.

Sadler needs to do more comedy.
post #23 of 33
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I think I pimp these every time Bill & Ted come up, but Evan Dorkin did a really fun comic series after BOGUS JOURNEY. It built on the insanity of the second one and you could tell he had a ball with it. Slave Labor's reprinted the series in two volumes, and it's worth picking up.
He did the comic film adaptation for the second one too, and it's really great. I read it before I saw the movie and it actually hurt the movie for me as a result.

"Woah, this is a totally deep hole."
post #24 of 33
My wife and I went on our first date to see Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. We were in 10th grade. I'm adding it to my Netflix queue now.
post #25 of 33
Wow, I didn't know this:
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A third sequel was planned, but was canned after Keanu Reeves, and later, Alex Winter, declined to reprise their respective roles. The script, which had already been written, was instead modified slightly, re-casted, and recycled into Bio-Dome (1996).
post #26 of 33
WHAT?

That's insane, as Biodome is one of the worst of the worst.

God I live Bill and Ted.

Be excellent to each other now.
post #27 of 33
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He did the comic film adaptation for the second one too, and it's really great. I read it before I saw the movie and it actually hurt the movie for me as a result.
I remember that Dorkin's climactic Battle of the Bands was far more epic in scale than the movie's. I always wondered whether he was working from an earlier draft of the script that budget constraints watered down, or whether he just wrote a better ending.
post #28 of 33
One thing I questioned in Bogus Journey--Bill constantly uses the phrase "non-heinous" for bad things. Doesn't "heinous" mean bad already? So wouldn't "non-heinous" mean "not bad"?
post #29 of 33
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yes it would, but the only time I can remember them saying it is the;
"That was non, non, non, non, non, non- heinous" Which if I have rememeberd it right (and written down right) would mean bad again.
post #30 of 33
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Sadler's expression of pure frustration while he plays that magnetic football game kills me every time.

Sadler needs to do more comedy.
BOGUS JOURNEY was on TV the other week and I'd forgotten how funny Sadler is in it.

"Butch and Sundance: The Early Years!"
post #31 of 33
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Wow, I didn't know this:
My God! Look what good judgment from Keanu and Alex saved us from.

Both these movies are aces, but Excellent just barely edges out Bogus in my book. I do love the idea of them playing Twister and Clue for their immortal souls.

One of my friends believes Bogus Journey is a terrible movie. I constantly use that (and the fact that he said Dawn of the Dead is a terrible zombie movie, but 28 Weeks Later was great) as a reminder of his shitty taste.
post #32 of 33
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yes it would, but the only time I can remember them saying it is the;
"That was non, non, non, non, non, non- heinous" Which if I have rememeberd it right (and written down right) would mean bad again.
If that's the point of the comment, double downing on the double negatives, then that's just uniquely insane. And funny. I've got it on DVD. I'll have to pull it out or catch it on TV (it's been all over the pay channels the last few weeks) and see if he says it anywhere else.
post #33 of 33
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Alex Winter and Keanu Reeves have talked about doing a 3rd one where B&T are just bloated, old, and lazy bastards who have to clean up in order to straighten out their grandkids or something like that.
That is Keanu's idea for a third film and he supposedly wants to make it at some point. Apparently Alex is the one who still wants nothing to do with a third Bill & Ted movie. At least that's what I read last time anyone ever brought up the possibility about a third one.
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