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Captain America's International Co-Stars: The Invaders

post #1 of 38
2/7/10 at 5:38pm
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http://chud.com/articles/articles/22...ERS/Page1.html
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post #2 of 38
2/7/10 at 5:51pm
Cool article. What about that bullshit I read regarding Cap's costume?
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post #3 of 38
2/7/10 at 5:53pm
I always thought it would have been cool to make Android Torch a Soviet creation. And while the Silver Age Invaders are cool, it'd be great to see them break out some of the other actual WW2-era heroes from Marvel like the Destroyer, the Black Marvel, or hell, if you wanna make it fun, scrap Spitfire and bring on THE WHIZZER!
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post #4 of 38
2/7/10 at 5:58pm
Not knowing much of anything about The Invaders roster I'm sitting here reading those descriptions wide-eyed and somewhat befuddled. Especially Silver Scorpion and Blazing Skull. I read Silver Scorpions description wrong at first, so I immediately began wondering how or why she incorporated a living stingray into her suit.

But I think I'm much more intrigued by how the singing, dancing USO proto-Captain America that I'm hearing about will play on screen.
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post #5 of 38
2/7/10 at 6:09pm
I think Union Jack is a Lock, and I wouldn't be suprised to see some new charaters based on some of the other Allied powers.
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post #6 of 38
2/7/10 at 6:20pm
If...Captain America, at least has the A on his cowl, and the Star on his chest, I would be fine with other alterations to his classic costume, even though, the alterations are not needed.
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post #7 of 38
2/7/10 at 6:28pm
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I think Union Jack is a Lock, and I wouldn't be suprised to see some new charaters based on some of the other Allied powers.
Dork-boy dream casting for Union Jack - Michael Fassbender. Just because he was so fucking awesome in his brief bit in Inglourious Basterds.
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post #8 of 38
2/7/10 at 7:46pm
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Dork-boy dream casting for Union Jack - Michael Fassbender. Just because he was so fucking awesome in his brief bit in Inglourious Basterds.
Good pick - Unless they want to have fun with the 'aging adventurer' thing : Pierce Brosnan
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post #9 of 38
2/7/10 at 8:02pm
See, now I want a Namor movie. I was kinda hoping if Thor went well, it'd open the door to that possibility but now that I know he's with Fox I'm a sad panda.
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post #10 of 38
2/7/10 at 8:07pm
Hope they keep the characters rooted in reality. Blazing Skull and Spitfire Sound too supernatural.

Can't wait for the casting.
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post #11 of 38
2/7/10 at 8:13pm
ginny weasley as spitfire plz :3
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post #12 of 38
2/7/10 at 8:31pm
Cap's teaming up with Thor in his next movie appearance. There's no reason why the rest of the Invaders can't have powers. I want to see Wierd War II, not Saving Private Ryan reenacted in pyjamas.
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post #13 of 38
2/7/10 at 8:54pm
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Hope they keep the characters rooted in reality. Blazing Skull and Spitfire Sound too supernatural.
So you don't want Capt. America to be throwing around his round shield that magically comes back to him?
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post #14 of 38
2/7/10 at 8:55pm
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so you don't want capt. America to be throwing around his round shield that magically comes back to him?
i think you may be biased sir
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post #15 of 38
2/7/10 at 9:29pm
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Dork-boy dream casting for Union Jack - Michael Fassbender. Just because he was so fucking awesome in his brief bit in Inglourious Basterds.
That was exactly my thought, he could effectively do the same character.

If they want a big name for UJ, then they could get Fassbender in as an Irish invader, a hard-drinking, wise-cracking type.
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post #16 of 38
2/8/10 at 6:59am
When I was a kid, just getting into comics, I used to think Union Jack was one of the most badass cats around.

And I still dig the look.
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post #17 of 38
2/8/10 at 7:27am
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So you don't want Capt. America to be throwing around his round shield that magically comes back to him?
I expected you to be more of a Captain America nerd. In the 90s, they did a special issue dedicated completely to how the shield works. It doesn't magically come back to him, it's perfectly weighted and aerodynamically designed and he throws it in arcs that reach the apex at the target and end in his position.

Also, it's made out of adamantium and some other Marvel alloy--it plays with the word "vibrate" somehow... vibranium?--and how they managed to affix the handle was by freezing adamantium screws that were slightly too large for the shield, which contracted the size of the screws, and placed them in, which effectively welded the handle to the disk when they heated up and expanded.
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post #18 of 38
2/8/10 at 11:21am
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I expected you to be more of a Captain America nerd. In the 90s, they did a special issue dedicated completely to how the shield works. It doesn't magically come back to him, it's perfectly weighted and aerodynamically designed and he throws it in arcs that reach the apex at the target and end in his position.

Also, it's made out of adamantium and some other Marvel alloy--it plays with the word "vibrate" somehow... vibranium?--and how they managed to affix the handle was by freezing adamantium screws that were slightly too large for the shield, which contracted the size of the screws, and placed them in, which effectively welded the handle to the disk when they heated up and expanded.
Yeah I would be fine with them ditching the boomerang aspect of the shield for the movie. It's ok with me if Cap sends Bucky to retrieve it after it destroys a panzer.
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post #19 of 38
2/8/10 at 11:37am
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Yeah I would be fine with them ditching the boomerang aspect of the shield for the movie. It's ok with me if Cap sends Bucky to retrieve it after it destroys a panzer.
I support this. Everything's better with child labor! Than we can see Cap pretend to be shocked, later, when Bucky dies.
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post #20 of 38
2/8/10 at 11:39am
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I support this. Everything's better with child labor! Than we can see Cap pretend to be shocked, later, when Bucky dies.
They could have a nice running gag about Bucky lugging around the minesweeper equipment...and eventually becoming "Stumpy", Cap's greatest failure. This stuff writes itself.
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post #21 of 38
2/8/10 at 11:44am
I'm already tired of the whole "It's not a costume. I'm not a superhero." trope that apparently is all the rage. They protest too much.

The Incredibles is the only film that really rolled with the whole superhero theme. And it's about time that someone in live action does the same. Has there ever been a genre that demonstrated as much self loathing for itself at times?
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post #22 of 38
2/8/10 at 11:44am
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
I expected you to be more of a Captain America nerd. In the 90s, they did a special issue dedicated completely to how the shield works. It doesn't magically come back to him, it's perfectly weighted and aerodynamically designed and he throws it in arcs that reach the apex at the target and end in his position.
I know it's not supposed to be literally magical, but any explanation of it is going to sound a bit silly (consider additionally that it can hit one to many objects in it's path and Capt. and it still comes back), specially in WWII era technology.

My point is, don't bother with realism, this is not and should not be Nolan's Batman at all. Go out all and have fun with it.
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post #23 of 38
2/8/10 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by kingcujoI View Post
Yeah I would be fine with them ditching the boomerang aspect of the shield for the movie. It's ok with me if Cap sends Bucky to retrieve it after it destroys a panzer.
Makes Bucky more useful AND makes Cap use the shield less often emphasizing what a powerful weapon it is in the first place. I like! :-)
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post #24 of 38
2/8/10 at 11:50am
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I'm already tired of the whole "It's not a costume. I'm not a superhero." trope that apparently is all the rage. They protest too much.
The Spider-man movies never had it be anything else except a costume. Having said that, I think providing some explanation for the getup is required for different characters. I thought the first X-Men handled it pretty well.

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The Incredibles is the only film that really rolled with the whole superhero theme. And it's about time that someone in live action does the same. Has there ever been a genre that demonstrated as much self loathing for itself at times?
I don't think it's self loathing; with X-Men and the Nolanverse, it's a desire to give the heroes a credible feel. Superman and Spider-man MUST have the costumes to work; it's an integral part of the character. Wolverine and Batman are a bit more flexible with regards to what they wear to "work"; Bats has to have a cowl and cape (and maybe not even the latter), but beyond that, the suit can be anything. And Wolverine's original outfit would have looked just plain silly in a live action feature film.
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post #25 of 38
2/8/10 at 12:28pm
It's pretty much self-loathing.
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post #26 of 38
2/8/10 at 4:03pm
Doesn't Cap have a non-boomerang wedge shaped shield during WWII?
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post #27 of 38
2/8/10 at 4:29pm
He actually used both;



He started off with the triangular one, but it was quickly changed due to the fact that it looked to similar to another character from another comic book company (The Shield)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America%27s_shield

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post #28 of 38
2/8/10 at 9:22pm
I know that I beat this horse every time the subject of Cap's movie comes up, but does anyone else feel that he absolutely must be depicted punching the piss out of Hitler before it's over? I mean, that's my whole ticket purchase right there. Like an extended Under Siege 2 style Tennessee ass stomping, from one end of his Berlin bunker to the other, preferably while Eva Braun fights a hapless Bucky.
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post #29 of 38
2/8/10 at 9:26pm
In this version, I hope Caption America steals some guys SUV again...
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post #30 of 38
2/8/10 at 9:34pm
Poor Hitler in issue 2! Look at him, he knows what's coming!
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post #31 of 38
2/8/10 at 9:53pm
I'm still thinking about Bucky's head crushed by a Panzer while he was trying to retrieve the more realistic shield.
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post #32 of 38
2/8/10 at 10:20pm
Hitler's haircut looks like a comb-over in the first pic. What an asshole!
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post #33 of 38
2/8/10 at 10:29pm
It's so unfair to judge people based on their appearance.

As soon as I read the first paragraph, I thought, "How can they use the Human Torch without confusing people? Oh, I know, use Toro instead. And that lets him be Spanish, too." Apparently Devin and I are of like mind.
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post #34 of 38
2/8/10 at 10:39pm
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It's so unfair to judge people based on their appearance.

As soon as I read the first paragraph, I thought, "How can they use the Human Torch without confusing people? Oh, I know, use Toro instead. And that lets him be Spanish, too." Apparently Devin and I are of like mind.
I don't see how making the Torch Spanish would be a good call, given Spain's relationship with Nazi Germany during the war.
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post #35 of 38
2/8/10 at 10:50pm
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I'm still thinking about Bucky's head crushed by a Panzer while he was trying to retrieve the more realistic shield.
No no...I said he retrieved the shield from Panzers destroyed by said shield. Bucky loses his legs to landmines, and it's funny because he was always complaining about having to haul all the minesweeping equipment around.

Shield > Panzers but Mines > Bucky
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post #36 of 38
2/8/10 at 10:51pm
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I don't see how making the Torch Spanish would be a good call, given Spain's relationship with Nazi Germany during the war.
There were 60k Spanish in the French Resistance.
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post #37 of 38
2/8/10 at 10:53pm
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I don't see how making the Torch Spanish would be a good call, given Spain's relationship with Nazi Germany during the war.
Argentinian? Oh wait.....
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post #38 of 38
2/11/10 at 11:07pm
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See, now I want a Namor movie. I was kinda hoping if Thor went well, it'd open the door to that possibility but now that I know he's with Fox I'm a sad panda.
Count your blessings that F4: Rise of the Silver Surfer didn't make a ton of money. If it had, they were apparently planning on tossing Namor into a third Tim Story-direct Fantastic Four film.

As it stands, the Sub-Mariner film is still in-development with Jonathan Mostow still attached to direct. The real question is how long does Fox have before the rights to Daredevil, Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer, and Namor return to Marvel? I would really like to know what kind of deadline they are working with here.
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