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post #51 of 572
Just got back from Vegas. I was sorely tempted to place some $$ down on FSU since their over/under on wins this year is 8. Didn't pull the trigger though.

Also, Georgia had a top-level recruit quit the team, then four days later come back. Richt welcomed him back with open arms. He'd better.
post #52 of 572
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...l/usatpoll.htm

Coaches poll came out a few days ago -- a few thoughts:

-With an experienced but new starting QB, Florida is ranked a bit too high. I see them winning 10 games, but a few missteps keep them from BCS standings.

-I think Virginia Tech knocks off Boise in the opener. VT could be a NT contender.

-Arkansas shouldn't be placed above Florida St.. Arkansas has a brutal schedule and Mallet is inconsistent.

If Alabama can score more points this year, they can make it to the NC; morever, I see them playing Ohio State in the NC game -- it's state's year to get there, with the rest of the Big 10 in a slump.

Roll Tide.
post #53 of 572
I'm on the ABOS team. ANYBODY BUT OHIO STATE.
post #54 of 572
So, ESPN outmaneuvered the Big 10 Network and their 7:00 p.m. major announcement. It looks like the Conference is going to shake out this way:

Penn State, Ohio State, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue and Wisconsin in one division.

Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Minnesota, Northwestern and Iowa in the other.
post #55 of 572
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Originally Posted by Mattioli View Post
So, ESPN outmaneuvered the Big 10 Network and their 7:00 p.m. major announcement. It looks like the Conference is going to shake out this way:

Penn State, Ohio State, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue and Wisconsin in one division.

Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Minnesota, Northwestern and Iowa in the other.
I think that looks pretty even. It looks like they tried to go with two top tier programs(OSU/PSU & UM/NEB), a mid to top tier (IOWA & WISC.), 2 Mid-tier (MSU/NW & PUR/ILL,) and then MIN and IND, in each division.

This is just for football right? Not basketball too?
post #56 of 572
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Originally Posted by Tim Long View Post
I think that looks pretty even. It looks like they tried to go with two top tier programs(OSU/PSU & UM/NEB), a mid to top tier (IOWA & WISC.), 2 Mid-tier (MSU/NW & PUR/ILL,) and then MIN and IND, in each division.

This is just for football right? Not basketball too?
Yeah, as of now, it's strictly football. And I agree with your breakdown, although I'm also slightly irritated because I feel like the Michigan side is the slightly stronger/more difficult conference. I'd like to see PSU play in the toughest division even if means risking more losses.
post #57 of 572
Yeah, I agree on the strength of divisions.

So they're going to protect one out of division rivalry each year, so I would guess UM/OSU, ILL/NW, WIS/IOWA. And then I don't know what. As an MSU fan I've always felt the rivalry trophy game they've played with PSU was forced, so I would stick PSU against Nebraska, and since MSU already has a trophy game with Indiana pair them up, and then throw Purdue and Minnesota together I guess.
post #58 of 572
So very excited about the start of college football season!

Anyone want to do a fantasy college football pickem on yahoo? If so, I'll set up a group!
post #59 of 572
I have no desire to watch Da Spur tonight, but I will be staying up to watch U$C/Hawaii.
post #60 of 572
Mike Leach covering college ball for CBS? Could be interesting.
post #61 of 572
Nice to know for Florida that even though Tebow left the Refs still will give give Florida every advantage possible. Offsides was bogus. Good, turnover by Florida.
post #62 of 572
Everyone knew that Florida was going to be a different team without Tebow, and I don't know that this team has a player that can carry the team on his back. Brantley looked surprisingly flat and aloof. Urban has to be dreading South Carolina.
post #63 of 572
I didn't see any of the game, but at least it looks like the defense is still going to be opportunistic, which will help the offense. They need to get the damn snap stuff sorted out though. That's just ridiculous.
post #64 of 572
Defense looked good, but they gave quite a few yards to a third-string runningback. Miami(Oh) seemed to move fairly easy down field until they got into the red zone.

I hope UA doesn't look as flat against San Jose, with Penn St. coming to town next week.
post #65 of 572
It is so refreshing not to hear Pat Haden's annoying voice during Notre Dame games. How in the world did that idiot become USC's AD?
post #66 of 572
Yes, it was Samford. Which is one step above playing Sandford & Son. But FSU looked like an entirely different team in every facet of the game. Hot damn, what a start for the Fisher era!
post #67 of 572
If Florida had been playing an SEC team, they'd have gotten murdered.

I don't get why they didn't switch to the back-up center, unless they were trying to somehow salvage Pouncey's confidence. Which obviously wasn't happening.
post #68 of 572
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
If Florida had been playing an SEC team, they'd have gotten murdered.
Or Jacksonville State, evidently.
post #69 of 572
The Hat gets lucky again.
post #70 of 572
It was San Jose State, but Alabama's young D and special teams looked pretty fantastic.

...and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVV70efL26Q
post #71 of 572
Overall a pretty good first weekend of the season.
post #72 of 572
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Originally Posted by Pompoussory Estoppel View Post
I'm on the ABOS team. ANYBODY BUT OHIO STATE.
Then you're just not going to have a good time watching college ball this year, pal. Sorry 'bout yer luck.

To use a well turned cliche, the Bucks don't rebuild--they reload. Now, I do see problems after Terrelle Pryor's senior year next season, but I hope we put the final nail in RichRod's tenure at Michigan this year.
post #73 of 572
I think Ohio State will roll through the Big 10 and easily make the BCS title game.

And get stomped by whatever SEC team they face, as usual.
post #74 of 572
Boise State or TCU will get there.
post #75 of 572
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
I think Ohio State will roll through the Big 10 and easily make the BCS title game.

And get stomped by whatever SEC team they face, as usual.
Oh, we might have been the Buffalo Bills of the college set for the last few years, but at least we were there at the end. And for every new BCS game we go to there is at least one hundred teams that wishes they were there.

But I got a good feeling about this year. If we don't have to play a team that's not cheating like USC did or a team with more bail bondsmen than trainers like some of the SEC teams, I think the Bucks will go all the way.
post #76 of 572
Never knew the Georgia dome was so BIG. What a crazy game between the tigers and the tar heels. Both teams had their issues, but I'm surprised the Tar Heels decided to keep trying after the 3rd period.
Most fun I've had in a long time.
post #77 of 572
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Originally Posted by Dr Vivisector View Post
But I got a good feeling about this year. If we don't have to play a team that's not cheating like USC did or a team with more bail bondsmen than trainers like some of the SEC teams, I think the Bucks will go all the way.
You think Ohio State doesn't cheat? I'm sure they slip money(or the boosters) to the top kids. I'm sure all top programs cheat in some way. USC was just too good at it and had to be stopped.
post #78 of 572
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To use a well turned cliche, the Bucks don't rebuild--they reload..
Every time I've ever seen this used, the team inevitably gets handed its ass before the season is over.
post #79 of 572
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
You think Ohio State doesn't cheat? I'm sure they slip money(or the boosters) to the top kids. I'm sure all top programs cheat in some way. USC was just too good at it and had to be stopped.
No, I think some boosters might get past the watchdogs, but I think Tressel walks the walk about keeping the school on the up and up. After Maurice Clarett got the NCAA to use proctologists on the program and came up empty for the most part, I would say we're as clean a program as one can have for this size. Remember this is the coach that penalized a future Heismann winner because he took a major mistep.

The Bucks aren't perfect, but I'd put them at the top of the list for compliance with the NCAA's rules.

As for cursing the Bucks with my reload statement from earlier, has any other team been as consistently good over the last decade or so?
post #80 of 572
Horrible green screen behind Musberger and Herbstreit before the BSU/Va Tech game tonight.

Boise State looks fired up. Va Tech's weakness, as it is every year, is offense.

Gutsy call by Navy to go for the win against Maryland today. I don't begrudge that call at all.
post #81 of 572
What's up with the Salute to TRON font on Virginia Tech's uniforms?
post #82 of 572
Why do teams even try to block kicks anymore?
post #83 of 572
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Why do teams even try to block kicks anymore?
Well, Tech has blocked an XP tonight and currently lead by one...
post #84 of 572
Congrats to Boise State for no scheduling Marshall, San Jose State, Rice, or some other crappy school to pad the stats and get a win just for showing up. Hope to see them in the Championship game.
post #85 of 572
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
Congrats to Boise State for no scheduling Marshall, San Jose State, Rice, or some other crappy school to pad the stats and get a win just for showing up. Hope to see them in the Championship game.
Yeah, since their next 11 games are real slobberknockers.
post #86 of 572
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Yeah, since their next 11 games are real slobberknockers.
They can't help the conference they're in. They scheduled legitimate Top 20 teams for their non-conference schedule, unlike plenty of other title contenders.
post #87 of 572
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
They can't help the conference they're in. They scheduled legitimate Top 20 teams for their non-conference schedule, unlike plenty of other title contenders.
Yeah, they have their two tough games at the beginning of the season. You can't fault them for fighting way out of their weight class with the rest of their schedule. It's like if Nebraska was playing in Kid Vivisector's ten year old Pee Wee league. It's not Nebraska's fault they can crush these other teams so easily.
post #88 of 572
It's more an issue of Boise State being in a bad conference. They have to play conference games, so all they can do is go out and beat the teams on their schedule.

And I can guarantee you a major conference wants nothing to do with them. Why invite the wolf into the hen house?
post #89 of 572
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I think Boise State would fit nicely in the Big 12. But that's just me.

I couldn't have cared less about the victor last night, but I thought the refs blew two no-calls at the end--the block in the back that wasn't a block in the back, then the no-pass-interference-call on Taylor's last throw. The DB obviously wasn't looking at the ball, and when he turned, he grabbed the receiver's right arm to the point the WR had to push him off with his left hand. Right in front of the ref, too, but no flag.

Good for Boise State that they held on. I kind of feel sorry for VT because they keep starting the season with all these big games, but they can't win one. They have been getting closer and closer, though. Taylor just isn't a big game QB to me. He only seems to be able to hit guys if they're wide open, but their lack of a running game last night didn't do him any favors either. BS kept rushing just 4 guys, and they kept getting pressure, and sometimes even with 3 guys. So either VT has OL problems, or the DL for BS was just that good.

I took time out from Dragon*Con to watch the FSU game. As stated, even though it was Stamford, it's nice to see them actually dominate a team they should dominate. Jax St last year was almost a train wreck, but then Ole Miss found that out this year, didn't they? And WTF with Kansas losing to North Dakota State? 6-3, no less.
post #90 of 572
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I think Boise State would fit nicely in the Big 12. But that's just me.
My thought exactly. It would add a little glamor to the conference and more than make up for the loss of Nebraska.
post #91 of 572
Boise's moving to the Mountain West next year, which would be a step up if BYU wasn't bailing. Helluva game last night.

I had the fortune of watching the PPV of Tennessee's thrashing of UT-Martin. It might be the high point of our season, so I recorded it. Later on, when we're 2-6, I'll put this game on and smile.

In other news, Reggie Bush is being stripped of his Heisman. WOW.
post #92 of 572
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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
You know what? I'm not sure I like this. The rule-breaking perks Bush got didn't really impact how he played on the field. It's not like he got busted for PHDs or gambling. He was still the best football player in the country that year, regardless of how many gifts and how much cash he received.

I mean, if you're going to take away Bush's Heisman for this, there's no way in hell OJ's Heisman shouldn't be taken away either.
post #93 of 572
Thread Starter 
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Mack Brown has already been lobbying that they name Vince Young the Heisman winner if that should happen. If that comes to fruition now, how weird would that be? Sort of "Here's the first runner up to Miss America, but you'll never end up wearing the crown because what could possiby happen whoops hello Vanessa Williams pics"
post #94 of 572
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
I mean, if you're going to take away Bush's Heisman for this, there's no way in hell OJ's Heisman shouldn't be taken away either.
OJ says, "Never convicted, baby!"
post #95 of 572
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
I mean, if you're going to take away Bush's Heisman for this, there's no way in hell OJ's Heisman shouldn't be taken away either.
OJ's transgression had nothing to do with the football field. Bush tainted the game. I'm sure the Heisman people have some criteria about not cheating while playing football.
post #96 of 572
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Originally Posted by Martianman View Post
OJ says, "Never convicted, baby!"
Not of the murder, but he IS in jail.

I'm just saying, Bush would have still put up those numbers if he hadn't taken one dime from an agent. Granted, it's the one tangible punishment you can give him, but it seems more like a case of "We have to do SOMETHING to punish him" than anything.
post #97 of 572
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
OJ's transgression had nothing to do with the football field. Bush tainted the game. I'm sure the Heisman people have some criteria about not cheating while playing football.

I completely agree. The Heisman people really had no choice but to take his award away.
post #98 of 572
Look, I'm not denying Bush broke the rules, but to call it "cheating" seems a little extreme. He didn't gain any on-field competitive advantage from taking money from an agent. How did that affect the outcome of any USC football game?
post #99 of 572
Vacating wins and awards after the fact is silly and does nothing to address the problem.

Just remember kids, the NCAA and schools can make millions off of you, but you're first under the bus when shit hits the fan.
post #100 of 572
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Originally Posted by Rando View Post
Vacating wins and awards after the fact is silly and does nothing to address the problem.
Especially when the coaches are able to skate away and avoid the penalties, leaving players and coaches who had nothing to do with the infraction to suffer the punishment. Of course, you could argue having to coach the Seahawks is punishment.

And as long as the agents who aggressively pursue college athletes with little regard for the rules are able to do so without repercussions, this will keep happening.
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