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Well, that was an experience. I'm trying to catch up with Haneke at the moment, and I'm finding his work to be enthralling, engaging and disturbing.

An astonishing performance of intensity and restraint from Huppert as the titular teacher, her work is vital to a movie which could easily have descended into farce in lesser hands. She creates a character who you feel sympathy for even though she is capable of horrible things (the glass in the pocket), and walks the line between being repressed, damaged, mad or simply masochistic. The movie is an attack in some ways on middle class morality, and I found the scene where Erika is rejected after the contents of the letter are revealed to be quite heartbreaking.

A question for those who have seen it (and I'm still mulling my opinion on this)- Is the penultimate scene consensual on Erika's part? Is it what she wanted, sort of what she wanted, or abuse?

Will definitely be revisiting this in future.
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I've been wanting to check this out for a while, unfortunately it's impossible to find for rental near me. Nice to hear you liked it though.
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I've been wanting to check this out for a while, unfortunately it's impossible to find for rental near me. Nice to hear you liked it though.
There's (I think) a lot of re-watch value to it, so it's worth a purchase.
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I kind of want to see this. I say kind of, because I'm still pretty fucked up from Funny Games. That one really got under my skin and has completely changed how I watch horror films, which is probably a good thing, but it's done it by making me really easily bothered by violent scenes which I could have done without. Trying to watch Midnight Meat Train two weeks later was a bad idea, I nearly threw up.

So, definitely interested in the Piano Teacher, but I'm unsure if it'll be worth the trauma. I know it really bothered my ex when he saw it. I'm gonna keep an eye on this thread though, interested to see what people have to say about it.
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It is a punishing movie in a way, but a rewarding one articularly if you are
down with Haneke and the way he expects the audience to engage. This film seems to be more about societal attitudes than those of the viewer (although those are clearly linked), but it's a fascinating piece of work.
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The movie is disturbing, the characters are often repellent, and yet, it's still fascinating and masterfully crafted. I liked it better than The White Ribbon.

It's also one of my girlfriend's favorite films. Take that for what it's worth.
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A question for those who have seen it (and I'm still mulling my opinion on this)- Is the penultimate scene consensual on Erika's part? Is it what she wanted, sort of what she wanted, or abuse?
There's an intentional ambiguity which seems to speak directly towards Kohut's issues. It's impossible to say if she definitely was frightened, in a negative emotional state, or if she was hiding some pleasure. Reading it both ways would be in tune with her character as presented prior to this scene - Huppert's amazing facial nuances towards Klemmer show sexual reserve. At the same time, why is she putting any energy into this reserve? It's clearly driven by pain, obviously from the parents.

This is beautiful cinema. I have watched a small handful of Haneke, and I have loved every single one of them. This one stands apart from everything I've seen from him, as not only is it a character study, but its theme is driven not by politics/modern society, but by seemingly what he perceives as either female sexuality, or mother/daughter relations, and I'm sure this is a very contentious point, one which I'm not really in the mood to address in this post.

Initially, my immediate reaction to Piano Teacher was that it was too over the top and direct. The highly charged scenes in which Kohut is in isolation, free to act upon her demented desires, struck me as heavy handed. With a few days of thought, they are still heavy handed, but they resonate. The character's actions fit beautifully with her confused emotions towards the general world around her...

It's such a sad, beautiful story. I still need time to think about it. It would be cool if CHUDites had more to say about this and help me process this beast.
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A question for those who have seen it (and I'm still mulling my opinion on this)- Is the penultimate scene consensual on Erika's part? Is it what she wanted, sort of what she wanted, or abuse?

Will definitely be revisiting this in future.

I have only seen the film once, but my impression is that yes, this was what Erika wanted, or rather, what she thought she wanted. It is what she essentially requested in her letter. However, the appeal of these desires has existed for so long only w/in the confines of her safe, fantasy world. I think the reality of the situation was a much different experience than what she thought it would be.

Great topic!
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