Kevin Smith is an angry fat man - Page 6

I think he is seriously overestimating how many people even know the story.

Most people know him either as "the fat guy from Die Hard 4" or "the dude Ben Affleck kissed on the MTV Movie Awards."

How, Spike? How?!

It's really not that hard when you want it badly enough. I've dropped over 100lbs this year, and the bulk of it I did by walking in a straight line and not eating shit. What annoys me about Smith is that he has every advantage possible to him to get off his ass and lose weight but he just seems to resigned to being who he is. It's really the same fundamental problem with his film making.

Pot can be a wonderful, wonderful drug. However... not exactly the most beneficent to weight loss for most people. Losing weight takes enough will power on your own without adding full-blown munchie fuel to the equation.

Wow I couldn't agree more.

I'd get baked off my ass and zone out listening to music on my walks, it was awesome. Dude's got a lot of money and a wife whose way more attractive than he ever could have imagined. He has no reason to be motivated so he's not plain and simple. Anything else is just him making excuses for himself.

100 lbs? That's amazing dude. I lost 30 lbs, not last summer but the one before. And it was mainly pot weight. And I look good now. And I thought that was impressive, but your effort is on another level.

I think it all boils down to the inherent habits of eating and exercising. Pot can throw a spanner in ones regular habits, and it can sure as hell worsen existing ones. The thing with Kevin Smith is, he recently started smoking pot. It's common belief Smith is a stoner, and makes stoner movies, which is understandable. But he only started smoking after Zack and Miri. He was able to achieve that huge size without the helpful hand of herb, thus he certainly does not need buds influence. As someone who takes care of their body, I have a love hate relationship with the stuff. The herb can be great, but man I DESPISE the munchies.

I don't agree with blaming weight gain on marijuana. Smith has no one to blame but himself, especially if he didn't try pot till he made ZAMMAP. I smoke probably more than most people in this thread, and yet I can only get an appetite to eat if I smoke first. I love the so called "munchies" because they allow me to get past whatever food issues I may have and actually eat till I'm full. What they don't do however is render you unable to control your intake. As Steve Moonrocket says, there is no reason he couldn't get high and do exercise instead instead of zoning out

I completely agree with blaming weed for gaining weight. "Munchies" isn't a myth. When you are high, most people don't give a fuck if what they are eating is a good idea, and most people don't want to exercise when they are stoned.

Now, that's not to say that pot is the only contributing factor in someone being fat, but it's silly to completely dismiss it.

It can also lead to paranoia! Like the kind where you think everyone on a plane is staring at you and whispering behind your back.

I really doubt that many "joe average"-types know jack shit about his getting kicked off a plane, they were probably just like "Is that Silent Bob? I think it's Silent Bob, but he has short hair and glasses. And he got fatter. Stewardess, was that Silent Bob?".
Joe average probably doesn't even know that "Silent Bob" wrote and directed all those fucking movies.

This post is full of so much stupidity it is amazing.

You have no appetite and pot makes you hungry. So hungry that you can eat until you are full.

But people with normal appetites? Noooo, no way in hell pot makes them have an appetite above and beyond their already normal appetite. No way that years of stoner comedies have highlighted "the munchies" because it has any basis in reality.

The world does exist outside of your bubble and your completely made up rules of reality, Kate.

To be fair, if Smith got on my plane I'd probably jump out of my seat and start screaming "OH MY GOD GET ME OFF THIS DEATHTRAP FATTY SMITH'S GONNA KILL US ALL". Just to make him feel special.

I tend not to eat much either when I'm sober. But when I'm stoned I eat shit I'd never ever touch, like ice cream or chocolate. And it's not that I'm paranoid of weight gain, I simply have no desire to eat ice cream, or chow down on deep dish pizza. Munchies is very real, and very destructive. But there are stoners, while afflicted with muchies, whom don't really gain significant weight, or go nuts with food when stoned. The munchies for me have been simply physically impossible to resist. There's a reason pot is recommended to combat anorexia.

Also, in the presence of pot, ones body cannot get into the same great shape it would in the absense of it. Weed causes the levels of natural growth hormone produced by one's body to drastically decrease to the point of non existence. This growth hormone is released after exercise and when one sleeps. It promotes lean muscle mass and decreases body fat, and it's also the chemical that promotes muscle recovery. Over time the body decreases the production of this chemical.

Basically, its a vital chemical that keeps you young and fit, and weed completely supresses this chemical. So even if you maintain the exact same caloric intake while smoking(which I believe is near impossible), it's not an efficient or healthy way to try and get into shape. And of course there are respitory implications to smoking.

I'm sure we're all found of the herb. It may be far, far less harmful than other popular drugs such as alcohol and tobacco, but let's not fool ourselves into believing it's completely benign.

Where did you hear that?

All makes sense.

Look, I smoke a good bit and am a big supporter. And yes, of course Kevin is the only one to blame for his weight.

I'm just saying, if you're already fat and want to START losing weight, constantly getting baked out of your tit isn't the best way to kickstart that process.

I am SO much more likely to choose the cheeseburger over chicken and vegetables if I've smoked. Sure, you can exercise enough will power though and do both. I never said you couldn't. But it does make it harder on yourself.

I don't doubt the existance of munchies, I just have trouble believing they are impossible to over come if you seek to remain physically fit
I accept that it could effect me differently than other people. For me, it's pretty much key for me to be able to eat anything at all. The times when I've been unable to score I've actually worried about how I'm going to be able to make myself eat without it, and my weight has dropped off to unhealthy levels. I need it to maintain my weight, but it doesn't cause me to actually gain weight. I am sure that people who have different relationships with food could be effected differently though, no doubt, I just don't buy it as an excuse for Smith to not be in shape. Every famous rich person has access to personal trainers ETC. I may not have much muscle mass, but if I was famous I could afford strength training. Smith has no excuse, IMHO
As far as side effects go, being sleepy and hungry pretty much meet my definition of 'benign'. I don't doubt that it has some effect on your body, but beyond respiratory issues (which are no worse than you'd get from merely breathing the air in certain cities), I've yet to see evidence of any way that pot harms you. I'd like to see a link to this stuff about the 'exercise chemical' it inhibits

[QUOTE=Ambler;3101868]He's reached some sort of mid life crisis and is lashing out at everybody.[QUOTE]

That part at least is 100% true. Seriously all I hear about from the guy now is that he is turning 40. Seriously if ya listen to smodcast he brings up how he will be dead soon(not always joking) and it's getting creepy and depressing. Nevermind the fact that he could easily have another 40 years if he would just lose some weight. And you would think he would, not for him but for his daughter. Also the crazy pot smoking is getting out of control to the point where it's affecting the show. The only movies of his I still like are Chasing Amy and Clerks but man he is making me ashamed of even admitting that.

[QUOTE=Waaaaaaaalt;3101890][QUOTE=Ambler;3101868]He's reached some sort of mid life crisis and is lashing out at everybody. He lost 30lbs in the last few weeks according to the smodcast he does with his wife. Happy now?

He talks about what's going on in his life (most Podcast creators do, it's kinda the format). Turning 40 I'm guessing is a big deal for anybody. But that said, for an angry fat man, he's done a fuck load more this year than probably most of us have managed in the last ten years. He's enabled opportunities for more people to tell their stories too. Helped a friend come out of a serious drug problem. Even if you hate his movies with a vengeance, there's not really much problem you can have with him personally.

Who cares if he's taking a few swings at the dicks who haunt the AICN talkbacks (unless you're one of them)? The central joke of J & SB Strike Back was them kicking the shit out of internet talkback douchebags and that's what, a 2001 movie? I don't think he really cares what people say anymore. Internet movie sites are a tool to be used, not some big group of pals he should play nice with or bother courting favors from, he has his own network for that. He's really just following Harvey Weinstein's lead and drumming up controversy is all (like riling fanboys is that hard). Internet critics are falling for the bait like crazy.

You don't get "lucky" as much as he has without having some hand in creating that luck. Too many people misunderstand that aspect of the movie business.

Aint a podcast that goes by that he doesn't mention the too fat to fly thing. If it weren't for him no one would remember it.

LOL yes he clearly cares what people think in a big way. If he didn't he wouldn't be whining about how much his movies make or how critics treated Cop Out. Ya know recently he said he won't be screening his movies for critics anymore? And that he had no interest in people that weren't his audience of course showing a complete lack of growth.

Don't misunderstand im not a Kevin Smith hater exactly. I love Clerks and Chasing Amy. Theres some good bits in Dogma but ultimately it doesn't work. Jay and Silent Bob is kind of nice for somone who has seen all the movies but now that im older I have lost interest in the film. The one thing I REALLY loved was the podcast. But with Kevin getting that level of baked mixed with this creepy midlife crisis thing he is losing me. Look dude im hoping Red State is great but we will just have to see.

Also whatever he has done in a year that I can't do in 10 years doesn't matter to me. Im not attacking his good deeds, im attacking the way he has chosen to handle his career and critics. It's fucking sad and quite frankly I thought he was better than that but clearly Kevin has no interest in showing up.

The cold-cast Silent Bob statue on my dresser is weeping tiny cold-cast tears right now. The cold-cast Jay is smoking a little cold-cast blunt and couldn't care less.

For someone who doesn't listen to his podcast, what is 'crazy' about his pot smoking? I know he didn't start till late in life, but is he some kind of hophead junkie now or something?

He went from never smoking pot to smoking it all the time. Don't worry im not agianst pot or anything it's just hurting his show making him into a blubbering rambling mess. He claims he just loves weed now all of a sudden but clearly he is using it to deal with his problems which I imagine isn't going to lead to great palces for him.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kevin Smith had an incredibly lame (is there any other kind, though?) 4:20 bumper sticker on his car. People who put as much importance and emphasis on their pot use as he does are a huge reason a lot of the population views the drug like it does.

No worries I was just curious, thanks for the info. Sometimes it can help me verbalize my thoughts, other times it has the opposite effect. I can see how combining that with a predilection for broadcasting your every brain storm could lead to awkwardness

Have to agree with you here. People who make a big deal out of being high ETC are the lamest. I only ever acknowledge 4 20 in an ironic way. Also, choosing April 20th as "International Pot Smoking Day"? Good one, Stoners. Couldn't you have chosen a day other than Hitler's B-Day?

So true. The way he blithers on endlessly about smoking up reminds me of listening to 16-year-olds brag about how wasted they were last weekend. We get it! You like pot! It just sounds kinda pathetic coming out of the mouth of an intelligent 40-year-old man.

Seriously?

Tellin' it like it is:

 

http://www.movieline.com/2011/02/oscar-winner-doesnt-like-that-one-director-youre-also-tired-of.php

Hahahahahaha brutal.

But what did they really think?

So, according to this, we may have to edit the thread title a bit.  

 

http://www.bittenandbound.com/2011/02/09/kevin-smith-weight-loss-too-fat-to-fly-guy-thinner-photos-video/

Not unless he's suddenly a really happy fella.

How can his skinny ankles support the bulk?

Not a dis, I'm talking physics here.

It's actually your knees that bear the brunt of supporting your weight.