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APEX (MCT) — A middle-school teacher in Wake County may be fired after she and her friends made caustic remarks on a Facebook page about her students, the South and Christianity.

Melissa Hussain, an eighth-grade science teacher at West Lake Middle School in Apex, was suspended with pay Friday while investigators review her case, according to Greg Thomas, a Wake schools spokesman. The suspension came after some of Hussain's students and their parents objected to comments on her Facebook page, many of them revolving around her interaction with her Christian students.

Hussain wrote on the social-networking site that it was a "hate crime" that students anonymously left a Bible on her desk, and she told how she "was able to shame" her students over the incident. Her Facebook page included comments from friends about "ignorant Southern rednecks," and one commenter suggested Hussain retaliate by bringing a Dale Earnhardt Jr. poster to class with a swastika drawn on the NASCAR driver's forehead.

"I don't defend what the kids were doing," said Murray Inman, a parent of one of Hussain's students. "I just couldn't imagine an educator, or a group of educators, engaging in this kind of dialogue about kids."

Hussain did not return calls and e-mail messages Monday.

The Wake County district doesn't have a policy on the use of social networking sites, Thomas said. But the district, North Carolina's largest, does have a code of ethics for employees that the school spokesman says applies to social networking. The code says employees' conduct "should be such as to protect both the person's integrity and/or reputation and that of the school system."

Teachers across the nation have been suspended or fired because of questionable material posted on their Facebook pages and other online social networking sites.

In 2008, seven employees of the Charlotte-Mecklenburg, N.C., school system were disciplined and at least one person was fired because of Facebook postings. That led to a memo going to all Charlotte-Mecklenburg school staff warning that offensive postings to social networking sites are grounds for termination or disciplinary action.

Thomas and Jennifer Lanane, president of the Wake County chapter of the North Carolina Association of Educators, said she wasn't aware of the details of the Hussain case, but said that teachers need to be careful about information they put online.

"We are public figures," Lanane said. "We are held to a higher standard."

In Hussain's case, the comments in question were on the public side of her Facebook page. She has since limited public access.

Parents of children in her class said they learned about the comments last month, leading them to complain to the school three weeks ago.

Parents said the situation escalated after a student put a postcard of Jesus on Hussain's desk that the teacher threw in the trash. Parents also said Hussain sent to the office students who, during a lesson about evolution, asked about the role of God in creation.

On her Facebook page, Hussain wrote about students spreading rumors that she was a Jesus hater. She complained about her students wearing Jesus T-shirts and singing "Jesus Loves Me." She objected to students reading the Bible instead of doing class work.

But Annette Balint, whose daughter is in Hussain's class, said the students have the right to wear those shirts and sing "Jesus Loves Me," a long-time Sunday School staple. She said the students were reading the Bible during free time in class.

"She doesn't have to be a professing Christian to be in the classroom," Balint said. "But she can't go the other way and not allow God to be mentioned."

Hussain, a 2004 Florida State University graduate, has been a Wake County teacher since 2006. Her religious affiliation is not on her Facebook page.

The flash point for the comments came after the Bible was left on Hussain's desk in December. The Bible was accompanied by an anonymous card, which, according to Hussain, said "Merry Christmas" with Christ underlined and bolded. She said there was no love shown in giving her the Bible.

"I can't believe the cruelty and ignorance of people sometimes," Hussain wrote on her Facebook page.

Hussain also said she wouldn't let the Bible incident "go unpunished."
Thoughts? Outrage?
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I'm outraged someone would be dumb enough to post that shit on their Facebook in 2010.
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Thoughts? Outrage?
Surprise that a teacher in the south named Hussain isn't swinging from a tree on fire at this moment?
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I'm outraged someone would be dumb enough to post that shit on their Facebook in 2010.
Yeah, this was also my reaction. Then again, I just read the line that states she went to school in Florida.
post #5 of 18
From that article, it sounds like the comments came from people on her friends list, not from her.

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"She doesn't have to be a professing Christian to be in the classroom," Balint said. "But she can't go the other way and not allow God to be mentioned."
Um, yes, in fact, she can. It's a public school. If the kids are singing and disrupting the class, it doesn't matter if they're singing "Yes Jesus Loves Me" or "Hava Nagilah".
post #6 of 18
She wrote about the kids leaving the Bible on her desk on her Facebook page and called it a hate crime. She shouldn't be complaining about school on her public profile at all, period.
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I'm shocked and outraged that I heard about this here first. I live in Wake county. For the record, we're not all stupid baptist rednecks. Some of us moved here from other places.
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She really picked the wrong forum to complain about her students. Somebody on my friend's list did something even worse, she put a comment about her manager making sexual advances towards her. I recommended she bring it up with her HR department or with her lawyer, but I guess people today think this is better discussed on their facebook pages.

It seems in this case the teacher should have exercised better judgment, it also seems like she has a bunch of brats in her classroom who have succeeded in frustrating the crap out of her.

There's a more interesting case of a local student here getting kicked out of the National Honors Society for creating a facebook group saying "SCHOOL_NAME_HERE = fails" because his school got rated with a D. In that case, at least the student was discussing a public issue and is not an official of an organization.
post #9 of 18
I have a few friends who are teachers, and most stay away from facebook for this reason, and the ones who do have it are very careful about who they add, and what they say for these very reasons.
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She wrote about the kids leaving the Bible on her desk on her Facebook page and called it a hate crime. She shouldn't be complaining about school on her public profile at all, period.
What he said. Posting stuff like that on a publicly available FB page is a whole pile of stupid. I never make specific references (i.e. - by name) to students on my (private, locked-down) FB page. And, when I do make references to things that happened at the library or in the classroom, it's only ever positive. This is not a difficult approach to figure out. Jesus.
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I'm outraged someone would be dumb enough to post that shit on their Facebook in 2010.
Stop making sense! This is America!
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She wrote about the kids leaving the Bible on her desk on her Facebook page and called it a hate crime. She shouldn't be complaining about school on her public profile at all, period.
No kidding. What an idiot! Hasn't she ever heard of LiveJournal?
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"i don't defend what the kids were doing," said murray inman, a parent of one of hussain's students. "i just couldn't imagine an educator, or a group of educators, engaging in this kind of dialogue about kids."
lololololol!
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She wrote about the kids leaving the Bible on her desk on her Facebook page and called it a hate crime. She shouldn't be complaining about school on her public profile at all, period.
Spot-on. No matter what, this will fuck any leg she had to stand on. She had other resources to deal with the students, but she chose to go this way. She should face some sort of disciplinary action over this.
post #15 of 18
It may not have been very smart to post that stuff on Facebook but I totally sympathize with her, those kids sound horrible. I'd probably snap and end up spewing a bunch of angry crap and get fired too if I had to deal with that kind of thing on a daily basis.
post #16 of 18
If you can't deal with snotty ass kids you shouldn't be teaching though. I'm not sure how the woman thought dealing with hundreds of teenagers every day was going to turn out for her. Also, I went to high school in Pennsyltucky, and I couldn't tell you the religion of a single one of my teachers. If a bible thumping kid asked, the teacher would have just said "That's not relevant to class, let's get back to the curriculum". Separation of church and state goes both ways, if the kids were being a problem she should have referred them to the administration, gone on with the lesson, and stopped the disruption, not indulge the psycho-christian kids in their witchburning.
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Not that I disagree with the majority of your post, Chris, but the woman's name's Hussain and she's most likely Asian in appearance. Kids are capable of assumptions just like adults.
post #18 of 18
I completely agree it was stupid of her to post this stuff on Facebook, but that quote from the one parent is some hilariously naive shit. That's all I got.
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