Kevin Trudeau Gets 30 Days In Jail....

This guy is an odd one...he says alot of things that make sense, and some of the methods he advertises do work (by the way there are natural cancer cures out there that do work), but alot of things about him scream "fraud", "scam", "rip-off".

There are some vitamin based cures that some doctors have used...the info is out there if you google, cause I sure as hell aint doing it for you.

I don't know what cures Trudeau is pimping.

The guy's a paranoid charlatan and a convicted felon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Trudeau


He's been involved with pyramid schemes and fraud, and most of his claims are based on anecdotal evidence.

Bullcrap. If there were vitamin cures out there that were solidly proven to work they'd make the leap beyond the front pages of the tabloids and actually, y'know, be used.

I'll just assume that is BS then. The burden of proof is on you, if they worked, why are most cancer patients not using them or why haven't we just eradicated cancer?

However, you think this kind of character would be the one to find a cure for cancer in the first place????

Ambler is really fucking weird. He hates movies, and thinks scam medecine works. What the hell?

I blame Joe Francis.

Dude, as a cancer survivor, I would strongly suggest that you reassess your position on this issue. Holistic, homeopathic, and other "alternative therapies" do not work. If they did, you'd see them in use on a much larger scale. Most doctors--even ones in the US--care more for their patients than their bottom lines and will work around the edges of the system as much as possible if they think it is necessary.

In fact, most of the people who peddle this shit know it doesn't work. What they are doing is preying on the people traditional treatment cannot help for their own financial gain and relying on the fact that it is costly and difficult to disprove their claims to get away with it. For this, I hope the Gregorian concept of Hell exists and that these people get the worst it can offer while fully conscious and aware for all eternity. A person who is willing to scam cancer patients is simply inhuman and engaging in literally unconscionable behavior.

Trudeau is worst than most because he presents his products as fraudulently as possible without risking criminal charges. His infomercials are always designed to look like regular talk show segments and the only time you get the warning that it is, indeed, an infomercial is at the very beginning, which most people channel surfing would miss. It's a ploy to steal the elderly, the less intelligent, and the desperate blind and the guy deserves the worst fate possible.

I'm just waiting for someone to blame the corporations for keeping the miracle cures out of our hands.

Also, I'm not in any way medically trained, but I understand what cancer is and why we have to treat cancer the way we do, and it's difficult to imagine how any kind of homeopathic cure could contribute in any meaningful way.

Nothing but a slap on the wrist. There should be a big ass class action lawsuit against this guy and his publishing company who ever they are.

Just think about what you are saying, and then go and do a shit ton of research on these supposed cure all claims. And then think again about what you said.

I still remember watching a part of one of those infomercials where he talked about how bad it was to eat shellfish. His reasoning was, "A friend and I went out to eat one night. He had some shrimp, and I ate steak and vegetables. The next morning, we were supposed to go diving, and he woke up and said, 'I feel terrible.' I felt great! It was obviously the shellfish that made him feel bad!"

I also remember first seeing him as a "host" of an infomercial while someone else pimped a product, then suddenly he was pimping a memory improvement program, and then he started with the whole "____________ They Don't Want You To Know About."

To paraphrase Tim Minchin:

You know what they call alternative medicine that has been reliably and repeatably proven to work?

MEDICINE.

I have a special place of hate in my heart for the quacks that peddle these 'alternative medicine' bullshit cures. Fucking leeches, conning dying, desperate people and their families. They should get the same if not more severe punishment that serial killers get. Forget 30 days. 30 years aren't close to enough.

I've got a special blend of snake oil for fellow chewers. It helps you retain movie knowledge. I sent some to Phil and he got his own appreciation thread. It's fairly cheap too, but I have to charge something to cover my costs. PM me for details.

Not really, because the medical profession doesn't like "natural" cures. The like chemo.

Where do you get that idea? I certainly don't hate movies. And the other thing...no.

Did you see the episode of Undeclared when Marshall took all the hippie medicine because he wanted to bang Rachel? He almost died.

But, but, the Doc said a dragon tear would clear up my skin...

Everybody loves Chemo.

My aunt didn't die, just one personal example.

I have to go to work soon so I don't have time to dig up the articles...but not once did I say I believe this Trudeau guy with regard to a cure for cancer...I said he has some interesting things to say with regard to food, and otherwise he's a cooky guy. But suddenly I hate movies and believe in scams...I'd say wtf, but this is chud.

And motherfuck you Martin Savage.

I don't give a fuck about the medical profession...they're here to make money, whatever that means...I have a personal example of someone helped without chemo. As far as them keeping miracle cures from the public, I don't know anything about that. I know they stick with what they've done for a long time, and if people want to go through with that, god bless and good luck to them.

I'm not interested in being proven right, it's just a personal example. As far as I'm concerned the medical profession can keep on doing what it's doing, good on them for making bank. And if you wanna keep making fun of me for believing an alternative that I've seen work if it makes you feel superior, go right ahead, no skin off my teeth.

Fixed for you. We all know people who have used alt medicine to treat cancer. You know what we call them? DEAD.

As for Trudeau, it always cracked me up how the "guests" on his Infomercials were always hot chicks in super low dresses. And didn't he do those "incredible memory!" infomercials back in the 90s?

Judge, sorry you're wrong.

What proof do you have that the "cure" your aunt used actually helped her cancer? It could have gone in remission and whatever she did had nothing to do with it.

Also, one example is not a general principle. Say a thousand people do what your aunt did on your sayso and stopped going to chemo, etc. Guys like Trudeau have indirectly caused people's deaths while making a healthy profit.

Compare the stats on medical treatment vs alternative "medicine". I'd start with Skeptic or the Skeptical Inquirer.

But taking all that into account, I'm happy to see that your aunt is a survivor, whatever the reason.

Randi is a national treasure. I remember him when he was on the Tonight Show with Carson. He was doing a psychic surgery demo. He also exposed Rev. Popoff and helped set up that spoon bender guy.

I'd also recommend http://www.theskepticsguide.org/

Surely then all medicine was at some time "alternative"?

As someone looking at the possibility of more chemo in a few months I'd LOVE to believe there were solid alternatives out there, but the facts speak against them. The Vitamin therapy is especially unrealistic. I'm looking forward to doctors getting down to business with stem cell stuff. I'm hearing the can theoretically 'train' stem cells to carry chemo directly to the affected area, avoiding most of the terrible side effects. There's also something out there that uses gold, apparently.

My wife's favorite part of Dragon*Con every year is the Skeptic track. She spends almost all of her time in those sessions. Randi was supposed to be there last year, but I think he was too ill to appear, dammit.

Oh, and Uri Gellar was the "mentalist" that bent spoons, and Randi constantly is blasting him. I still remember that Carson show like I just watched it last night.