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A really chilling, beautifully constructed, shot and performed movie. From the disorienting credits, followed by the shocking opening sequence, it's gripping. I did actually wonder part way through if Stewart had gone mad (I may have read too much Shutter Island discussion), particularly with regards Madeleine seeming to 'disappear', and also Midge's painting, and I love how the actual reveal is structured. You are completely taken along with Stweart through the movie, his desperation to put himself back together increasing after Madeleine's death, his driven obsessiveness i guess paralleling Hitchcock's own perfectionism. I love how the movie is both a mystery and a piece about a man overcoming his fear after a tragedy.

Has anyone got a fuller explanation of the colour schemes in the movie? Be interested to read any analysis of that.
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Has anyone got a fuller explanation of the colour schemes in the movie? Be interested to read any analysis of that.
Vertigo is a perfect movie, and one of my favorites ever.

You can find a nice analysis of the color scheme (with images from the film) here.
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Awesome link Parker. As you can probably infer from my username/join date, I went through a bit of a Vertigo obsession about five years ago. One of my absolute favorites, but haven't seen it in a few years. Perhaps time for a rewatch.
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Vertigo is a perfect movie, and one of my favorites ever.

You can find a nice analysis of the color scheme (with images from the film) here.
Well, I'm going to have to watch it again soon now aren't I?
Cool link Parker, thanks.
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Vertigo is Hitchcock's best film and arguably the best film of all time. It's certainly the single greatest work of craftsmanship, audience manipulation, and cinematic language ever filmed. It's also one of the greatest moral explorations of film as a medium yet-produced.

The central theme in this film, which often goes ignored, is a kind of meta-commentary on both filmmaking and "star-making." If Inglourious Basterds is Tarantino's wild, uneven, and disorganized treatise on the power and danger of image creation (in IB's case, most specifically w/r/t history and history-making), Vertigo is Hitchcock's interrogation of the same--but with a much more honed, subtle, and personal focus. Vertigo is, above all else, about the power and destructive capacity of artifice and fantasy on the explicitly human (rather than the global) level. In many ways, the most similar film to Vertigo is David Fincher's the Game, which treads similar narrative and thematic ground, except it's not very good.

Rear Window is Hitchcock's earliest overt (and his most obvious) interrogation of "cinematic ethics" and his first film in which implication of the spectator (a theme explored in Vertigo and taken too far in his later work: e.g. Marnie) is the central theme. Vertigo does Rear Window one better. While Rear Window's window-as-movie-screen conceit is an obvious metaphor for and exploration of cinematic voyeurism and obsession and it hooks you on this concept from the start, Vertigo lets you go along for the ride with Ferguson for half the runtime, and then the film's subtext is delivered later--and in a more subtle payload. The same beautiful fantasy that entrances Ferguson entrances you--and Hitchcock's use of familiar narrative tropes and expertly placed POV shots (alongside his standard limited range of narration) align you so closely with Ferguson that you want (for the film's first half), almost as desperately as he does, for the whole bizarre fantasy to be real.

If the first half of the film is the fantasy, the latter half is its deconstruction. In the key scene where Judith's true identity is revealed to us but not Ferguson, Gavin is essentially also revealed as a sort of pseudo-filmmaker, who presents Ferguson with a wonderful but impossible story to cover up his wife's murder. The brilliance of the film's construction is that it drives a wedge between the audience and Ferguson at this juncture by giving the audience privileged narrative information (that Judith is Madeleine). Our knowledge of Judith's true identity (which comes before Ferguson's own realization of it) transforms Ferguson from a dramatic protagonist to more of a tragic one. (In Marnie, by contrast, the audience remains aligned with Mark even as he essentially rapes Marnie--which makes the film that much harder to watch and far more abrasive, unpleasant, and inelegant than Vertigo is.)

In many ways, Ferguson's later attempts to transform Judith into Madeleine are analogous to the contemporaneous Hollywood star-making process: her physical transformation is portrayed as painful and drastic and, ultimately, she is forced to lose her identity to become an inauthentic figure of fantasy and obsession. Ultimately, Ferguson's tragedy is that the beautiful story of mystery and death in the film's first half (the same one that is so attractive to us, the audience) leads him to recreate the story in his own mind, to the extent that he not only recreates Madeleine but also kills her once more. If, in Rear Window, Hitchcock is asking to what extent cinematic voyeurism is truly a one-way street, in Vertigo he's asking to what extent the beautiful violent fantasies films present can repeat themselves in their spectator's lives--while also revealing the pain and artifice behind the fantasies themselves. The whole film is a story of spiraling, circuitous obsession--a metaphor for the madness and obsession of making such a film, but also of falling prey to its beautiful, deceptive fantasy.
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Absolutely one of my favorite moviegoing experiences ever.

During my freshman year at college, there was a monthly film series at Shea's Theatre in Buffalo, which is a renovated movie palace. Canisius' student support services had free tickets to a screening of Vertigo, so my best friend and I went to Shea's.

Not only did we sit in the balcony (which was awesome), we had two questions that neither of us could answer. One, why was the theater screen so weirdly proportioned? And two, we know it's Hitchcock (that's why I got the tickets), but what the hell is the movie about?

I figured out number one as the Universal logo began the film (holy shit, it's in 70mm!) and number two had us walking out unable to express anything more than a stream of head shakes and 'damn'.

I'd had a hard time getting over a girl the year before in high school, and more than anything, watching a movie about the depths of a man's obsession helped a lot in finally moving on. (Laugh if you want, but recognizing elements of my 18-year old self in Scottie really freaked me out.)
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The Brattle Theater in Cambridge MA, which is basically the best theater ever, is where I first saw Vertigo. They were having a double feature of it with Rear Window and since I've loved Rear Window for years I decided to go.

I'm so glad I saw this for the first time in a theater and not on DVD. It was a completely different experience. An engrossing film if you see it under the right circumstances and you are in the right mood. Whenever they put this out on blu ray it will be a mandatory purchase.
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Meredith also changes her identity to live up to a fantasy that she created, which could also be seen as a comment on actors and actresses generally on Hitchcock's part. The movie is about more than filmic morality, it's about the power of presentation and image gnerally too, although the meta level is involved of course. As Policar said the shift from the viewer being with Ferguson to above him is genius, as it's only when you are outside the fantasy that you can see it's folly.
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