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post #1 of 34
2/22/10 at 4:43pm
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Is there a more fucked up final issue than Power Man and Iron Fist #125??

-Iron Fist gets pissed after finding out that Cage had some guy dress up as an "old master" to make Fist feel better about inadvertently killing 70,000 people. The two best buds yell at each other and break up.

-A super powered 12 year old that Iron Fist befriended dies.

-Iron Fist uses his CHI powers to revive the kid and keep him on life support while the Avengers try to make nega bands to save his life.

-The nega bands seem to work and a drained Iron Fist falls asleep near the kid's bed.

-The kid wakes up in extreme pain and freaks out. He screams for Iron Fist to help him, but fist is too drained to wake up. The kid starts wailing on Iron Fist to try to wake him up and winds up BEATING HIM TO DEATH. Then the kid dies and disappears in a burst of energy!

-Cage walks into the room after this happens (he went out to grab a bite to eat). The Cops think Cage did it.

-After attending Iron Fist's funeral, the car Fist's love interest is driving blows up.

-After realizing that the D.A. is going to go after him for Fist's death, Cage flees and is once again on the run for a crime he didn't commit.

-Luke Cage cries! He says "I loved that man" and in the last panel he sheds a single tear while thinking "Christmas...."

DON'T EVER PISS OFF DENNY O'NEIL.
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post #2 of 34
2/22/10 at 5:14pm
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The issue is kind of fucked up, but at the same time it's an interesting way to say FUCK YOU to your bosses. Too bad Priest never got bring the character back. Instead Byrne later revealed that the Iron Fist in that issue was a PLANT PERSON or something.

http://www.digital-priest.com/comics/powerfist.htm
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post #3 of 34
2/22/10 at 5:25pm
Wadew1, Power Man and Iron Fist was always one of my favorite comics, but, I did not remember that...Iron Fist died. I am loving reading the adventures of Power Man and Iron Fist Essentials, that Marvel has been publishing the last few years. I am hopefull that PM&IF 3 will be announced eventually. The comic is also best read while listening to the soundtrack of...Black Dynamite. I would love to see...Michael Jai White as Luke Cage aka Power Man, in a 70's era...Power Man and Iron Fist film. I think that Power Man and Iron Fist was best when...Chris Claremont wrote it.
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post #4 of 34
2/22/10 at 7:38pm
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After years of endless rebooting, relaunching and relaunching AGAIN I wonder why we haven't seen another Cage & Fist book.
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post #5 of 34
2/22/10 at 7:39pm
Or a movie! Oughta be pretty cheap to make, really.
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post #6 of 34
2/22/10 at 7:46pm
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A Power Man and Iron Fist movie with Michael Jai White and Scott Adkins could be one of the greatest films of all time.
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post #7 of 34
2/22/10 at 8:12pm
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Originally Posted by wadew1 View Post
A Power Man and Iron Fist movie with Michael Jai White and Scott Adkins could be one of the greatest films of all time.
I was always a bit disappointed the IF vehicle for Ray Park never got rolling.
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post #8 of 34
2/22/10 at 8:14pm
I'd rather have an Orson Randall movie, myself.

And with the possible exception of Quantum and Woody, Priest's writing for comics tends to take a backseat to his writing ABOUT comics.
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post #9 of 34
2/22/10 at 9:05pm
Wadew1, In addition to...Power Man and Iron Fist, there should also be these characters...
Misty Knight-Aunjanue Ellis
Colleen Wing-Aya Ueto
Diamondback-Wesley Snipes
Master Khan-Gordon Liu

I would film the...Power Man and Iron Fist film first, and then show their backgrounds in solo films. Colleen Wing and Misty Knight could also be a...Tv spin off...The Daughters Of The Dragon.

P.S. Wadew1, I love your casting of Michael Jai White as Luke and Scott Adkins as Danny.
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post #10 of 34
2/22/10 at 9:55pm
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Priest's essays about his time in the comic business are great reads. Everyone should take a look at that stuff.

As for his actual comic work, it's a shame that most of his gigs were shortened by cancellation. With Power Man and Iron Fist, he and Mark Bright were getting better with each issue. I liked all of the K'UN LUN dragon stuff near the end of the run. And I can't believe they still went ahead and canceled the book after seeing #124. That ALL OUT KUNG FU stuff from Bright was great.

The same thing happened with Quantum and Woody. The book was on a roll and then it got canceled. When it briefly came back, it wasn't the same. The only decent run he got was Black Panther. And aside from the overuse of the 'jumping around in time' gimmick and Ross narration, it was pretty good.
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post #11 of 34
2/28/10 at 2:16pm
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I also went and bought the IMMORTAL IRON FIST Omnibus hardcover.

When Brubaker and Fraction were writing it, I thought it was Marvel's best book by far. Then they left and the book was quickly canceled. But the Orson Randall arc they started off with is still pretty great. I forgot how insane the SENSE SHATTERING SIXTH ISSUE was. Take for example this vintage action movie exchange that occurs after Danny sticks his hands into Orson's exploding chest and everyone goes "Daaaaaamn":



STUNNING.

I also liked the Seven Capital Cities of Heaven. The story felt a bit padded when I read it monthly, though. We'll see if that's still the case when I read it all in one shot.
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post #12 of 34
3/1/10 at 7:10pm
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I also liked the Seven Capital Cities of Heaven. The story felt a bit padded when I read it monthly, though. We'll see if that's still the case when I read it all in one shot.

It's fairly readable when it's all together - I also loved the immortal weapons spin off series - good stuff.

also re: # 125 crazy ending but that series was a pretty crazy one to begin with - 86 was a wacky time with all the odd secret wars 2 stuff (remmeber the end of the new defenders?). I also really liked it when Byrne brought back Iron Fist in his underrated namor series - especially the whole tyrone king / master khan stuff.
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post #13 of 34
3/3/10 at 8:34pm
You know, there's a lot about bendis i dont like, but his Cage and Iron Fist moents are great as hell.
I would watch an Inmortal Iron Fist movie ten times in a row; hell with the Randall/Rand storylines both being covered, itd be a great pulp action/ martial arts mix.
Plus, Fat Cobra.
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post #14 of 34
3/4/10 at 1:27am
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What NEW AVENGERS issues have good Cage/Fist moments? I read it on and off while IRON FIST was a member and I don't really remember anything significant. I do remember that he just up and left for some lame "uh....my company needs me?" reason at the end of Secret Invasion. He couldn't run his company *and* be an Avenger?
Hopefully he comes back in one of the 10 new Avengers comics they're launching.
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post #15 of 34
3/4/10 at 1:47am
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What NEW AVENGERS issues have good Cage/Fist moments? I read it on and off while IRON FIST was a member and I don't really remember anything significant. I do remember that he just up and left for some lame "uh....my company needs me?" reason at the end of Secret Invasion. He couldn't run his company *and* be an Avenger?
Hopefully he comes back in one of the 10 new Avengers comics they're launching.
Issue 59 has the Rescue of Luke Cage from HAMMER, which has a nice Iron Fist kick ass moment because he's pretty pissed about Cage getting arrested/tortured by Osborn.
That also tied with Thunderbolts 137, which was a pretty damn great iron Fist/Luke Cage sidestory.
The Pulse's "Secret War" arc has some good "brothers" moments between the two as well.
Im betting on Iron Fist being with Cage on post Siege New Avengers....in fact, Im betting bendis pulled strings to get full control over Iron Fist.
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post #16 of 34
3/4/10 at 2:53am
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Marvel can't seem to pick one, so which is better:
Modern Fist or Classic Fist w/ Ballet slippers?

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post #17 of 34
3/4/10 at 3:23am
Modern. That disco collar is ridiculous. He might as well get gay-married to Luke Cage at that point.

I dig Orson's getup quite a bit though.
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post #18 of 34
3/4/10 at 3:34am
I never did get the slippers, but that costume had its place and time.

That being said, I love this thread.
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post #19 of 34
3/4/10 at 3:37am
Well, they're kung fu slippers. It makes sense since he's the kung fu guy, right?
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post #20 of 34
3/4/10 at 11:12am
Wadew1, I prefer the...70's era Iron Fist costume. I also prefer the...70's era Luke Cage outfit, with the yellow shirt, tiara, and chain belt. The new one is not as flashy, as it should be.
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post #21 of 34
3/4/10 at 1:56pm
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I dig Orson's getup quite a bit though.


Word.
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post #22 of 34
3/4/10 at 2:46pm
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I like the gigantic, pointy 70s collar.
The girly slippers always bugged me, though. Overall I think the modern outfit looks cooler.

SMOOTH AS SILK 70s tiara Cage or 'Shirtless guy wearing a pair of jeans' Modern Cage?

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post #23 of 34
3/4/10 at 3:14pm
I think the original costumes are iconic - the slippers always seemed odd to me too, although they fit the character perfectly. I recall that when Byrne brought him back the costume was mostly the same but he pared back the ludicrous collar a bit. gotta love that green and gold though.



Cage being a bad ass in jeans, well ok, it plays into Bendis's approach to the character of a family man dragged back into heroing.

I really like Bendis and I think the way he's worked on these characters and stayed loyal to them is really great.

As for the iron fist leaving the avengers thing, I actually liked the way he was on the periphery, a kind of "if you need me you just have to ask and I'll be there with a plane / apartment/ whatever - just remember I've got my own shit going on." Now that the iron fist series is done I think he's a dead cert to join one of the avengers teams.

remember during the civil war when iron fist was daredevil? that was sweet and then when he gave stark a piece of silver "that's 31 for you now, judas.".
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post #24 of 34
3/4/10 at 10:46pm
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Cage giving up on shirts doesn't seem true to the character. He really loved those yellow silk shirts and even bought them in bulk during the 70s. He would get them ripped and shot up every issue during run-ins with MAN MOUNTAIN MARKO or something.
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post #25 of 34
3/4/10 at 10:54pm
Diapers don't pay for themselves. A man has to make hard choices to provide for his family.

Sometimes that means going shirtless.
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post #26 of 34
3/4/10 at 11:00pm
Wadew1, 70's Era Luke Cage is the best depiction of the character.
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post #27 of 34
3/6/10 at 12:41pm
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Here's Power Man and Iron Fist at their most carefree.
They find themselves in the middle of a Weird Western Tale at the beginning of #74. Look at how happy Danny is to be wearing that hat!

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post #28 of 34
3/6/10 at 5:04pm
Wow, white people sure were tolerant back then.
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post #29 of 34
3/6/10 at 5:08pm
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Wow, white people sure were tolerant back then.
No kidding; the actual situation would probably result in an "up yours, nigger!" reminiscent of Blazing Saddles.
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post #30 of 34
3/6/10 at 5:19pm
Chavez, Considering Power Man and Iron Fist just...saved her life, I am surprised Luke or Danny didn't get a kiss, from the damsel formerly in distress.
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post #31 of 34
3/6/10 at 5:41pm
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They don't go back in time in that issue (I wish they did, though).
They just walk into a saloon to rescue some kidnapped girl and everyone acts like they're in a Western. Then Luke Cage says "SHUCKS!" for the first and (I'm assuming) last time.
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post #32 of 34
3/6/10 at 5:54pm
Wadew1, The bar depicted in the issue, might be the western themed...Cattleman. I have heard my dad talk about the place, and it was not too far from Times Square.
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post #33 of 34
3/7/10 at 4:00pm
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An amazing display of PM&IF Teamwork:



And what ever happened to Luke Cage's movie theater buddy D.W. Griffith?
Cage was always putting that guy in harm's way. They fought a Vampire together once.
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post #34 of 34
3/8/10 at 3:22pm
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No kidding; the actual situation would probably result in an "up yours, nigger!" reminiscent of Blazing Saddles.
I just had a vision of Cage beating the shit out of that old lady, then iron fist punching her head off her shoulders.
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