The $50 question: Grant or Reagan?

What's really hysterical is the same technique Reagan used -- forcing the USSR to spend loads on money on the military until the economy collapses -- is the same technique the GOP is using to destroy America.

I'd rather see Franklin D. Roosevelt, complete with penguin-style cigarette holder.

I'd rather it be some complete loser like Franklin Pierce or Chester A Arthur.

Put Taft on that bitch.

They'd have to make the little window bigger for Taft cause he was fat.

Chester A Arthur totally deserves to be on a bill. He's the comeback kid. Put him on the 2, who's on there now? Jefferson or something?

I love the line about Taft in America: The Book.

William Howard Taft was the only President to go on to become Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. He was also our fattest president. Guess which gets brought up more?

edit, in error called him 'Supreme Justice' which was also my favorite mid 90's superhero team.

From what I know of US history Grant doesn't seem exactly the kind of president you'd want on your currency. But Reagan? Fuck no! Is FDR on anything? Now, here's someone worthy. Even that guy that got pneumonia at his inauguration and died is better than Reagan.

FDR is currently on the dime, but like Washington on the quarter, it's this sterile profile picture that looks nearly Roman in design.

Yeah but they had to make the Supreme Court bigger because he was fat.

It might not have happened while he was President, but his generalship in the Civil War saved the Union. If we can have Hamilton and Benji on currency, we can reserve a spot for Sam Grant.

Is Grant's reported alcoholism just puritan slander of a man who liked a drink now and then, or did he really have a problem?

Let's get all Canada up in here and put a fucking eagle fighting a bear on it.

This Reagan legacy business is sort of unnerving in both how indefatigable and intellectually dishonest its evangelists are. Every single time I go to LA and am reminded that a medical building on UCLA's campus is named after the University of California's greatest enemy due to the efforts of these people, I throw up in my mouth a little.

You know what would be an awesome testament to Reagan's actual, reality-based legacy? A Vietnam War Memorial-style series of currency that lists the names of all the people who died at the height of the AIDS epidemic in the 1980s when Reagan refused to acknowledge the condition existed and threw up all sorts of bureaucratic hurdles to funding AIDS research and treatment. They could give the series a real kick-off with the autopsy photo of Rock Hudson.

Better yet, why not put his face on all the ketchup packets delivered to public schools. They could even complete the picture with cardboard cutouts featuring Uncle Gippy's message that, if he had his way, those packets literally would be the closest thing most of those kids would come to ever seeing a vegetable.

Or, we could name every unemployment center in the country after him given his economic policy's legacy is essentially what is fueling the economic crash of both California and the United States.

There a ton of ways to honor this man that these people are overlooking.

The name thing happened more because they had a LOT of money to offer to fast-track the opening of the new hospital. I still completely agree with you, but I can sort of understand why they did it even if I hate Reagan almost as much as I hate the idea of losing my penis in a pit bull training mishap.

It depends which historian you ask. I would say though that we are talking about a relatively sober gent from the Civil War on. He had a scotch or brandy now and then while in social settings as the President, but he wasn't an alcoholic.

US history isn't my forte but I always thought that Grant's life went the following route: Useless bum. Kickass general. Getting the presidency as a reward and treating it as such. I may be wrong, though.

His Presidency, like all after time, is emerging in a slightly different light. I'm not sure it was as much him treating it as a reward as his appointees treating it as such. This caused a lot of his problems. He at least had a favorable Civil Rights record.

His work as a general was far more beneficial than his presidency though.

I support...Ronald Reagan, replacing Ulysses S. Grant on the $50 dollar bill. We have not had a President like Reagan since his...2nd term ended. I would put...FDR on something bigger than a...Dime though. He got us through WW 2, and pushed for the creation of the atomic bomb, which ended the war. Ronald Reagan helped, along with Gorbechov, and Pope John II, in ending the cold war. Ronald Reagan is definitely one of The Greatest Presidents of this modern era.

My ....head hurts....after reading.... that.

Fuck Reagan. Because of Reagan we now have every idiot in the GOP calling for tax cuts and other stunningly ignorant economic policies. As Chuchlian (sp -- sorry dude) noted above, a better way to honor Reagan's legacy would be to name an unemployment office after him.

However, I will say this for the man: American Punk was never better than when the gipper was in charge.

But we already have these:

That's two Indians--or, at least, one and one-half Indians--for the price of one coin!
You speak great truth.

And one of them is a woman, so it's doubly good...or something.

This is an amusing confluence of both Reagan worship and the South trying to get Grant off our currency. (I guess Lincoln was too big a fish.)

I vote for MLK. Or Ted Levine.

Seconding that Ted Levine vote, actually.

Or Sherman.

Personally, I'd like to see Hulk Hogan up there. "Why?" you ask. My reasons are as follows:

FACT: He is a real American.

FACT: He fights for the rights of every man.

FACT: See Fact No. 1.

FACT: He fights for what's right.

FACT: He fights for your life.

How many of your smarmy politicians can say that?

Reagan was a cunt. I hope it doesn't happen. That is all.

The Vending Machine that defeated Acting Sensation Mayor Ted Levine's mayoral bid might have something to say about that.

Vending Machine for the $50 win!

Chuck Norri--*everybody reaches through the internet and punches me before I can finish the joke*

I have an idea. You get Reagan on your money. The Tories win in the UK and put Thatcher on theirs. Then we will try to breed them and see if the resulting currency has the Antichrist on it.

Why can't Ted Roosevelt be on some money? That man was a goddamn pimp!

I seconded the Teddy love, arguably the best President we every had. His cousin just made the Great depression last longer, and saved Europe.

They can put Ted Bundy on a $50 bill for all I care. With the way the economy is going, hardly anyone will even see a fifty much longer anyway.

I would like to buy a hamburger, but all I have is a 50$. From what I been readying the Euro may be in even worse shape. so what is going to be the next word currency?

The Amero.

#1 - 20/20 hindsight.

#2 - A good thing.

Gold-pressed latinum.

Organs. Harvested from white christian babies.

As I've mentioned on the boards before, I'm something of an amaerute numismatist. So I hope my opinions on this matter would carry some weight with you guys

1) Keep Grant.

Reagan nuked our economy and also had Alzheimer's and fell asleep at meetings. FAIL.


2) Get Andrew "I defy the Supreme Court and murder indians!" Jackson the fuck off the 20.

Hell no. I got to defend my cousin. Jackson kicked ass and took names. He was the Chuck Norris of the early 1800s.

If by "kicked ass" you mean death marched 30 000 people, than yes

If by "took names" you mean he said that the Supreme Court had no authority to enforce their rulings unless they had an army, than yes

He was the Adolf Hitler of the Early 1800s

Jackson did a lot of Bad things, but he also did a lot of good things.

Hitler built up Germany's economy and pulled them out of a national collapse where they had 23 billion % inflation.

He built amazing roads and infrastructure and gave them back a sense of national pride. Should Germany stick him on their money? (His little mustache would look adorable in the center of a one euro coin!)

No.

Same goes for Jackson. If you death march people, I'm not ever going to approve of sticking your face on coinage/bills.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

Get off the 20$, AJ. Let's put TJ on instead.



"Here here!"

I respect TR as much as the next guy, but he is no way our best president. I don't think any historians would rank him higher than Abe or FDR.

And please take your conservo-revisionist history elsewhere. Like glenbeck.com