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Ridley Scott's ALIEN Prequel Will Of Course Be In 3D

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I'd watch that in a second. You got the chestbuster in 3D and a first person shot of being eaten by the alien with that second mouth/tongue coming your way.
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I just want it to be a good movie. All that other stuff is secondary.
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If we get Blade Runner/Alien Ridley, I'll be there. If we get GI Jane Ridley, I'll skip it.
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I'm just waiting for word that this will ignore the sequels entirely and allow Ridley to do whatever he wants with the alien. No queens or anything like that. But that stuff is so ingrained into publics knowledge of the Alien series that general audiences and fans may not go for it. But who cares? I think "Where would the alien as a concept been taken if Ridley had stayed on to explore it in another film?" is, creatively speaking, a far more interesting jumping off point for this.
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Now the question is, will Russell Crowe be in this?
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So wait, he's directing this again? I get the feeling that he'll direct this if ROBIN HOOD tanks. But if it does well he'll go off and do yet another historical heroic piece and pass this on to another director. And I will hate him for that.
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I'm a pretty big fanboy of the first two Alien movies. I think the first is one of the best horror movies of all time and the second is one of the best action movies of all time. The rest of the series sucks, but I'm crazy excited about this.

Russel Crowe should play The Alien Queen. The magic of MOCAP!!!! In 3D!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Abbott & Prospero View Post
I'm just waiting for word that this will ignore the sequels entirely and allow Ridley to do whatever he wants with the alien. No queens or anything like that. But that stuff is so ingrained into publics knowledge of the Alien series that general audiences and fans may not go for it. But who cares? I think "Where would the alien as a concept been taken if Ridley had stayed on to explore it in another film?" is, creatively speaking, a far more interesting jumping off point for this.
Yeah, is this going to be an actual true to canon prequal, is is posible this is a complete reboot? Will this film even assume that Ripley and the Nostromo crew later discover the alien eggs?
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Kinda mixed on this. Alien was a rather simple story that was elevated by the expert craftsmanship of all involved. After Aliens, I'm not sure there's much more story to be had here. Only so many times we can see a man in a suit chasing someone.

A prequel would go into the origin of the aliens? Will we get to learn about the Space Jockey race? Will it just be more slime and stalk, with humans, or another alien race?

I'm just confused about where else there is to take this series.
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The only place the series ever needed to go was to Earth and they should have done that the third movie.
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The only place the series ever needed to go was to Earth and they should have done that the third movie.
Ahhh, yes. You know, long ago I had that concept alive in my head, but have just learned to repress it as an actual possibility, due to the sheer scope and expense of what that could lead to if done right.
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The only place the series ever needed to go was to Earth and they should have done that the third movie.
We got aliens on earth. AVP1 & 2. The aliens NEVER needed to go to Earth.
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We got aliens on earth. AVP1 & 2. The aliens NEVER needed to go to Earth.
C'mon. You can't use those crappy films as imperical proof that taking the aliens to Earth would have been a bad way to wrap up the Ripley story.
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No, I'm saying out of 6 films featuring the xenomorphs, only the first 2 are worth watching. The first one was completely claustophobic. You couldn't have made that work on Earth in any meaningful way. The Second was on a very exotic landscape. Angain, how do you make that work on Earth in a meaningful way, without retreading Bladerunner?

Alien 3 and 4 are more or less rehash of Alien. AVP 1 and 2 are just a complete mess.

What could you have done with the xenomorphs on Earth that wouldn't involve them completely obliterating all indigenous species? Which is pretty much what is implied they did on the dead ship the Nostromo crew found them on, and the colony the Suloco was sent to investigate.

I love the look and the concept of the aliens, but thematically, after Alien and Aliens, they are kind of a dead end.
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In 3D there are no dead ends. That shit comes OUT at you.
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We got aliens on earth. AVP1 & 2. The aliens NEVER needed to go to Earth.
AVP:R was a dream come true. I know when I saw the "On earth, everyone can hear you scream" Alien 3 trailer, I was visualizing aliens stalking high school girls in swimming pools in Vancouver.
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Alien 3 sucks so much that it killed the series. It had plenty of potential for the future. The idea that Cameron and Scott were bouncing around a few years ago about going to the Alien homeworld sounded completely awesome.
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In 3D there are no dead ends. That shit comes OUT at you.
COMIN' AT'CHAA!!
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I don't even consider either AVP film as an official sequel at all. I kind of view them as like non-canon Dark Horse comics come to screen. Be it, very, very shitty ones. At least, Dark Horse had some amusing ideas.

The Alien series kind of lost its footing when it became so dependent on Sigourney Weaver as a drawing point. Ripley is an inconic character but a lot of the demands that Weaver was starting to make in the later sequels as grounds for her character to return were a bit.... uh, weird. Part Three gave her a solid send-off in my opinion and after that, there really was no visible reason why she had to be directly attached. If they can make Predator films without Arnold, they can do another Alien movie without Ripley, especially since they killed her off.

My view on another Alien film is a lot like another Predator. I'd love to see one, more good watchable one but given where the industry has gone in the last twenty years, I think the time has passed. It's like instead of filmmakers who actually understand these films, it's a bunch of fan boys whose big artistic dream is to realize a full-CGI bullet-time shot of an Alien sommersaulting into killing somebody. Sadly, releasing another franchise film like Alien to a theater around me is like leaving a bag of heroin around a recovering addict. I should know better but for some reason, the result is the same. $10 and two hours of my life I'll never get back.

Sylvester Stallone has spoiled me. Outside of Rambo and Rocky Balboa, I really can't think of a post-millenium installment in a 70's, 80's, early 90's film series that actually felt like a sequel. I either feel like a piece of my childhood was violently raped or like I just watched a mediocre genre film masquerading as a sequel for financial reasons.
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But the fact that Ridley is back for the franchise he started means something more to me. Especially when Ridley's best work was genre pictures, ergo Alien. He makes the craft work. The cinematography was meticulous. The chemistry undeniable. I'm hoping he can hone that in again, but give us something entirely new or create an alternate perspective on the xenomorphs.
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I don't think that the Ridley Scott of 2010 will ever be able to match what he achieved with the first film. There's a raw, improvisational quality to the performances that I don't think the exacting filmmaker of the present day would ever allow. That said, I'm sure that if he does indeed helm the new film, that it will be way better than anything we've seen from the franchise in the last 15 years.
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I'd be lying if i denied that seeing this in 3D wouldnt make me shit my pants:



That aside, when i was younger I kinda did an outline for an Alien movie where the Sulaco is boarded by a group of scientists from a rival corporation, who remove the still hibernating Hicks and Newt and replace them with dead look alikes (created through genetic manipulation); before they can do the same wih Ripley the Sulaco malfunctions and a fire breaks out, ejecting Ripley and the duplicates's pod; the same malfunction causes Hicks and Newt's hibernation to malfunction, aging them (New ends up as 20's woman and Hicks as a 50's old man); if i remember right, the rest of the outline involved Hicks and Newt facing an Alien outbreak in a moon based space station, as corporate war escalates between WY and the other corporation.

Post Alien3 and the whole debacle that came after it, i guess it was a dumb idea (and Gibson's draft was really great, except for that virus thing).
Nowadays, i cant see an Alien movie actually having a chance in hell of being average at least.
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I'm sure that if he does indeed helm the new film, that it will be way better than anything we've seen from the franchise in the last 15 years.
To me, that's like saying if Spike Lee directed House Party 5, it would be better than House Party 4. Better than the Alien: Resurrection or the two AVP films still doesn't necessarily make it a good film but I guess a Ridley Scott-directed prequel is probably the best hope one could have for the franchise. It surely beats a remake.
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I'm just wondering what ideas Ridley has that are interesting and expansive enough to give us a trilogy of prequels? I'm not complaining, just curious. I always figured that if this prequel actually happens that it would be a one-shot and they'd be back to square one on figuring what to do with this franchise. While I look forward to more films (providing they are actually good), it is kind of sad to think that this franchise has only prequels and "midquels" to look forward to after the continuity established by the horrid Alien: Resurrection.
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Sure looks it may have.
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Now I'm not so sure since I find it odd for an anal-rape scene to be intercut with hot chestburster action.
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Now I'm not so sure since I find it odd for an anal-rape scene to be intercut with hot chestburster action.
That and the quote from Blade Runner basically tip the scales toward it being fake, yes.
post #30 of 35
I think the basic idea of an Alien prequel is already wrong in itself. Prequel means explanation and Aliens can't / shouldn't be explained.

No one wanted to see how the Mad Hatter got mad.
post #31 of 35
That draft was terrible. Fake as shit.
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That draft was terrible. Fake as shit.
I've also seen the title used for a 'Dark Horse' Aliens book and at least ONE fan-fiction screenplay...this could be either of those.

I'm sure there are others on this site who would be willing to bite the bullet to cross either of these off; or just rate it as 'of dubious provenance'.
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I think the basic idea of an Alien prequel is already wrong in itself. Prequel means explanation and Aliens can't / shouldn't be explained.

No one wanted to see how the Mad Hatter got mad.
I tend to agree with you here. This especially seems to be the case with the horror/suspense genre. The more you give or show the audience, the less personal the experience becomes. I mean, it goes back to the old idea of scary silouttes or objects in the dark, the more light you shed on them, the less they look like what was scaring you in the first place. There in lies one of the big problems I have with most horror sequels. They keep coming up with new ideas and rules until they make that sequel that discredits the very character I was afraid of in the first place.
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I think the basic idea of an Alien prequel is already wrong in itself. Prequel means explanation and Aliens can't / shouldn't be explained.

No one wanted to see how the Mad Hatter got mad.
Yup. See also: Michael Myers and Hannibal Lecter.

Even if I don't want to know to much about the xenomorphs (thus further neutering them), I'd lie if I said I wasn't curious about the Space Jockey/s. I blame Lovecraft's AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS for that curiosity.
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I agree with everything you guys are saying about sequels and prequels de-mistifying these iconic monsters, but we're talking about a prequel here to a thirty year old franchise. They're going to have to introduce some new elements to the mythology. Hopefully they'll do it well. Nobody seems to mind when it's done well, like in ALIENS.
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