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post #51 of 86
Seals are used for other purposes than bullfighting. Not that it's something I'm for, but you can't compare the two of them. But again, being smart isn't your strong point. Just like saying that all of Canada is like Calgary. You probably didn't see the Olympics, did you?

And it's pretty ironic that the dumbass who's proud to have poured bleach on a frog is defending any sort of animal.
post #52 of 86
Agreed on the "culling" for ecosystem equilibrium pourposes, disagree completely on the barbaric form of "hunting" these seals.
Also, the South Pole Leopard Seal would like to have a word with these guys:

post #53 of 86
Thread Starter 
Man you carry a lot of baggage dude. I love how you half remember things and keep track of my life though.

Nice to see you still don't add anything to the topic, as I've pointed out again and again, anytime there is a thread that criticizes Canada in anyway, you have yet another mini meltdown.
post #54 of 86
Forget it Martin, it's ElCapitantown. You'll never get anywhere with him.
post #55 of 86
Kate, in Canada the Aboriginal people prefer the term Aboriginal or Native.( Indian is not rude but it is wholly inaccurate) But more than that they actually prefer to be called by their tribal name whether it be Ktunaxa Kin'Basket, Cree, T'su Tina, Inuit (not Eskimo, never Eskimo) or one of the many other tribes.
post #56 of 86
Ryan,

Fair enough. Believe me, the last thing I want to do is offend the first peoples of this great continent. In the USA, most seem to prefer indian, but if they like 'Native' (which, sorry, is also inaccurate and vague since everyone born in Canada is a native... but whatever), than ok.

For the record, are we going to rename the Yucatan peninsula since it's name means "I don't understand"? (the answer the spanish got when they asked the indians what it was called)

PS I know enough to call them inuits


PPS: Can we get back on topic now? I had a serious comment which was that killing seals with that pike is actually very humane, if done correctly. I'd like to see others opinions on what I had to say there since I think that's a valid point
post #57 of 86
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For the record, are we going to rename the Yucatan peninsula since it's name means "I don't understand"? (the answer the spanish got when they asked the indians what it was called)
I assume you are referring to the Maya? They most certainly do not like being called indian. At any rate, your above story is still considered a myth.

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Can we get back on topic now? I had a serious comment which was that killing seals with that pike is actually very humane, if done correctly. I'd like to see others opinions on what I had to say there since I think that's a valid point
Would that be a preferable way to kill other humans?
post #58 of 86
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I assume you are referring to the Maya? They most certainly do not like being called indian. At any rate, your above story is still considered a myth.?
Yes, I am. South America was connected to North America when Columbus deemed them all indians. But anyway, I'm not about to let people tell me I'm not respecting indians when the very first argument I got in on this board was where I was arguing about depicting indians fairly on screen and calling old westerns racist.


As for that story being considered myth, I've seen in in text books, so it's good enough for my purposes.

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Would that be a preferable way to kill other humans?
I don't support the killing of humans, by pike or other means
post #59 of 86
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As for that story being considered myth, I've seen in in text books, so it's good enough for my purposes.
Text books discuss things other than fact. That story is still a myth.

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I don't support the killing of humans, by pike or other means
Different tact. Do you consider the use of that pike, a compassionate or sympathetic method of killing?
post #60 of 86
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Text books discuss things other than fact. That story is still a myth.
Eh, you'll have to show me proof before I'll believe that HB (no offense). I've seen sources (including the esteemed Rachel Maddow) cite it as true
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Different tact. Do you consider the use of that pike, a compassionate or sympathetic method of killing?
not sure what you'd mean by a sympathetic method of killing them. A 'sympathetic' killing would be reserved for offing a cancer patient or soemthing, no? I do consider it humane
post #61 of 86
HB, or what about Idaho? That's a fake indian name that a con man swindled an entire US state with. That state name is literally gibberish!
post #62 of 86
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Eh, you'll have to show me proof before I'll believe that HB (no offense). I've seen sources (including the esteemed Rachel Maddow) cite it as true
No offense Kate but if the esteemed Rachel Maddow said that ice is hot, would you believe that too? You might want to consider primary sources before tertiary sources.


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not sure what you'd mean by a sympathetic method of killing them. A 'sympathetic' killing would be reserved for offing a cancer patient or soemthing, no? I do consider it humane
Might want to look up the meaning of the word, humane.
post #63 of 86
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No offense Kate but if the esteemed Rachel Maddow said that ice is hot, would you believe that too? You might want to consider primary sources before tertiary sources..


Fair enough, HB. I don't have time or the energy to do a research paper on the etymology of the Yucatan peninsula right now. I'm not having a great day. Instead I suggest we rerail this conversation back to seals, if I may be so bold.

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Might want to look up the meaning of the word, humane.
Ok, how about this? As far as ways to murder seals go, a pike through the head if driven swiftly and with accuracy (as a Native Canadian would know to do) would be about as painless a death as possible short of putting it to sleep with drugs (which would render the meat unfit for consumption)
post #64 of 86
I'd like to express my sincere admiration of Hbarr's unrelenting will to enlighten and educate, even in the face of unbeatle odds.
post #65 of 86
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I'd like to express my sincere admiration of Hbarr's unrelenting will to enlighten and educate, even in the face of unbeatle odds.
Uh oh! Not in the face of unbeatle odds!


What would Lennon think?
post #66 of 86
I am now starting to understand Princess Kate.

Loves: Indians and dolphin meat.

Hates: Retards and seals.
post #67 of 86
You're staring into the abyss, jvc.
post #68 of 86
Ho hum another fucking thread ruined.

At least I got a decent conversation at it's start yesterday I guess.

Carry on with the whatever-it-is you guys are doing, I guess you're having fun or something.
post #69 of 86
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Jesus fuck shit fuck. This thread makes me want to go vegetarian.

Fuck.
post #70 of 86
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The practice is horrific and condemned by most nations, how is that at all what PETA does. Actually, in this case, their position is probably the correct one. Some of the "pro" arguments exposed here could be use to defend things like bullfighting, just because it's a tradition it doesn't make it any less inhumane.
It's no less humane than how cattle and pigs and chickens buy the farm, so to speak. I'd say it's more humane, because the seals live their lives as seals and not livestock. The population is not endangered. This is no different than bagging a moose or a deer, and I support sustainable, responsible hunting unapologetically. If the population can support the loss of a quarter million seals a year, I say go for it. The traditionality of the hunt is not really a factor to me.
post #71 of 86
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It's no less humane than how cattle and pigs and chickens buy the farm, so to speak. I'd say it's more humane, because the seals live their lives as seals and not livestock. The population is not endangered. This is no different than bagging a moose or a deer, and I support sustainable, responsible hunting unapologetically. If the population can support the loss of a quarter million seals a year, I say go for it. The traditionality of the hunt is not really a factor to me.
Seabass, great points. I'd just like to call attention to the fact that I made all those points (about how Pike-through-the-head is how most cows are put down) in my first post on this thread. I just wish people didn't have me on ignore because then they'd see I have valuable things to say
post #72 of 86
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Seabass, great points. I'd just like to call attention to the fact that I made all those points (about how Pike-through-the-head is how most cows are put down) in my first post on this thread. I just wish people didn't have me on ignore because then they'd see I have valuable things to say
Then again, Seabass probably has you on "ignore", and therefore can't read your plea.
post #73 of 86
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Then again, Seabass probably has you on "ignore", and therefore can't read your plea.
post #74 of 86
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Seabass, great points. I'd just like to call attention to the fact that I made all those points (about how Pike-through-the-head is how most cows are put down) in my first post on this thread. I just wish people didn't have me on ignore because then they'd see I have valuable things to say
When the ratio of moronic to useful veers so heavily on the moronic side people don't really care about anything useful you have to say.
post #75 of 86
Seal are cute, pigs and cows not. Personally I believe Bambi need to die, Venison is nightly tasty.
post #76 of 86
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Seal are cute, pigs and cows not. Personally I believe Bambi need to die, Venison is nightly tasty.
Grammar!
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Grammar!
I believe he's dyslexic. See his sig.
post #78 of 86
oops... all apologies, Robert.
post #79 of 86
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Personally I believe Bambi need to die, Venison is nightly tasty.
This seems like something Nick would have wrtitten on purpose.
post #80 of 86
I actually should comment on the topic at hand. My read of this is much like Seabass's. I'm not horrified by it, nor am I'm happy it's still going on. The seal hunt is more a reflection on the fact that our governments(federal and provincial) have know idea how to deal with our native residents and we get things like this. The Hunt demonstrates that the inuit population is still able to function in a traditional way and that the white man hasn't completely ruined them. This is in contrast to say, my town, where we are surrounded by several native bands. The Kamloops band being one of the most progressive bands(read business friendly) in the country. However the reserves themselves are still very much like ghettos. I guess bassicaly I'm saying white guilt lets the Seal Hunt continue, and in this case I don't mind.

Last spring I got the chance, because of my brother in law, to eat in the Parlimentary dining room. Almost every dish lists the region in Canada it's from, and it's region usually dictates the style it's cooked in. So I have no idea how the'll prepare the seal, but I'm sure it will be delicious.
post #81 of 86
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When the ratio of moronic to useful veers so heavily on the moronic side people don't really care about anything useful you have to say.
I don't see why that would be...

If it's useful, it's useful. Regardless of who said it

Like in WWZ when that old racist apartheid guy tells Nelson Mandela how to stop the zombie plague, and Mandela embraces him and says "this is the man who will save our nation"
post #82 of 86
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Seals are used for other purposes than bullfighting.
Yeah, like FASHION. Something's gotta keep them Russian millionaire women warm.

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PPS: Can we get back on topic now? I had a serious comment which was that killing seals with that pike is actually very humane, if done correctly. I'd like to see others opinions on what I had to say there since I think that's a valid point
Yeah what could go wrong when trying to hit a squirming small animal's (that's fleeing from you) head with a wooden stick while running on ice? Do you go out of your way to be as ignorant as possible when in an argument?
post #83 of 86
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Yeah, like FASHION. Something's gotta keep them Russian millionaire women warm.

Yeah what could go wrong when trying to hit a squirming small animal's (that's fleeing from you) head with a wooden stick while running on ice? Do you go out of your way to be as ignorant as possible when in an argument?
No...

I think it's reasonable that people who have perfected their pike hunting techniques over milennia would be pretty good at it
post #84 of 86
This thread makes me feel ill....
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This thread makes me feel ill....
Why?
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Why?
Something she ate?
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