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HORNS by Joe Hill

post #1 of 12
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Thanks for the heads up, Rath.
I really enjoyed this one. At first it seemed a little cliche with the predictable doctor and priest secrets. But then the grandma scene happens and we're off to the races.
I just wish it had stuck to more of the wickedly humorous material found in the first few chapters and not spent so much time on whodunnit melodrama. But I must say, Hill crafted an absolutely detestable villain in one of the last chapters.
Surge, you should like this one.
post #2 of 12
This is my next read after I finish Under the Dome (I guess I like going from father to son). Heart Shaped Box and 21st Century Ghosts both really impressed me, so I'm all about it.
post #3 of 12
Now that you've read it, Bob, what did you think of the ending? Was it happy or not?

Spoilers, highlight to read: And by that, do you think Ig was actually reunited with his girlfriend once he fully became a demon/the treehouse burned down, or was it all a diabolical plot to get his soul? I gotta admit, the logistics of that mumbo-jumbo were a little hard to follow.
post #4 of 12
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Spoilers-

I guess it was a happy ending in that the bad guy gets his comeuppance, which is mostly what the story was all about. Things get a bit better for Iggy, depending on your point of view, because he basically turns into a superhero by the end.
I don't know if he was reunited or not. Seemed like he was earthbound since other people were still having foggy memories of him appearing at their bedside. I figured she ascended to heaven through the treehouse (she mentions finding the door), but he couldn't get through because he was all bedeviled.
It never occurred to me that it was a plot to get his soul. But like you said the logistics get kind of muddied at the end. Like father like son.
post #5 of 12
My thoughts on Horns:

Joe Hill is a gifted writer. Capable of deftly etching interesting characters, constructing a compelling plot, and turning a nicely evocative phrase, Hill is an exciting talent in the world of fiction. I wasn't sure what to expect when I started his new novel, "Horns," but I quickly fell into the mystery of Ignatius Perrish and the devilish horns that appear on his forehead, seemingly conjured in the middle of the night.

Halfway through this ambitious book, however, the initial thrill of Hill's plotting and prose gave way to something approaching disappointment. The deeper I got, the more the world of Horns seemed to shrink. From a truly intriguing premise, something relatively pedestrian emerged.

None of which is to say that Hill's written a bad novel. It's simply a novel that doesn't know what it wants to be. Hill succeeds in preparing you for a gourmet meal, but ulimately fumbles in the final presentation.

It seems to me that a novel which attempts in part to explore the nature of evil, the role of satan in the world, and the hidden (awful) depths of the human heart ought to feel a lot less safe than Horns ultimately does. The book opens with the idea that it's main character has done something 'terrible' he can't remember, and that this terrible "something" led to his horns. But that something, when finally revealed, isn't much of a something after all. And that same sensation of things being less interesting, less complex, and ultimately too unexplained permeates enough of the novel that i don't think I'd recommend it.

While I appreciated Hill's characterizations overall, the friendship between Perrish and Lee never reads as believable, and ultimately, some of Hill's larger concepts (I'm looking at you, 'Treehouse of the mind') feel like the sort of hyper-important-yet-unsatisfactorily explained deux ex machina devices that Hill's father, Stephen King, so often falls prey to.

The novel that Horns ends up being fairly comparable to, in a number or ways, is "Lisey's Story," by King. There's the same sort of admirably and movingly rendered portrait of loss, the same intriguing but totally unexplained sense of magic (re "Lisey's Story": What the heck was up with the brother who sort of maybe turns into a werewolf or demon or maybe doesn't, but is all feral and touches himself and they keep him in the basement or something - which you don't typically do unless the kid is actually a monster but King never tells us which is sort of cool but also ultimately kind of frustrating and ends up making things feel incomplete and not purposefully vague and which is maybe what both writers were attempting with this stuff, but it doesn't really satisfy?), and the same sense that in the end, things turned out smaller and less interesting than they'd seemed when the book was opened.

Kind of like this review, really.
post #6 of 12
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Sorta kinda my thoughts in that I would have preferred we got more "Ig shoves his grandma down a hill" and less "Let's piece together this murder mystery"
I did like the theme of people seeing only what they want to see in their friendships.
post #7 of 12
I liked it a lot -- Hill's a good writer and the non-supernatural stuff that makes up the bulk of the novel works on its own for me. Still, I'm going to have to go back and reread the two treehouse scenes again to make sense of why Ig got the horns in the first place. I recognize all the significant clues, I just don't know how they add up logically.
post #8 of 12
Great interview with Hill at the AV club. I like this part where he talks about his inspirations and the way he wrote parts of the novel, because the two novellas he mentions are some of the best parts of the book:

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But the other thing is, you have to remember I’m a completely frustrated mainstream writer. I wound up writing horror and fantasy very naturally, because I love those things and ’cause I think I’m good at it, but I also like and read a lot of mainstream fiction, Tobias Wolfe and John Irving. So one of the things I did was, I snuck these two novellas into Horns. The first is “Cherry,” and then there’s another called “The Fixer.” “Cherry” is kind of a Stand By Me type thing. It’s a narrative about childhood and innocence, and maybe the transition from innocence to experience. The other one, “The Fixer,” is a Jim Thompson novel. Jim Thompson wrote The Killer Inside Me. He’d always write about these protagonists, just when you think you’ve seen their worst, they do something even more terrible. I always kind of wanted to write a noir like that. So “The Fixer,” which is about Lee Tourneau, my sociopath, that’s kind of my Jim Thompson riff.
http://www.avclub.com/articles/horns...oe-hill,38522/
post #9 of 12
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I'd really like to see him try a hardboiled crime novel.
post #10 of 12
Really loved this one. I think in a way, Ig's "saved."
post #11 of 12
I haven't read this yet but I have it on my wishlist but for those of you who have a kindle and like him, his 20th Century Ghosts collection is 99 cents. I didn't link it though so you can use the amazon search through chud.
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I haven't read this yet but I have it on my wishlist but for those of you who have a kindle and like him, his 20th Century Ghosts collection is 99 cents. I didn't link it though so you can use the amazon search through chud.
20th Century Ghosts was awesome. I especially loved the story about the boy's inflatable best friend.
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