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The films of Luchino Visconti

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I'm not as much of a Visconti enthusiast as I'am with some other Italian filmmakers like Fellini or Antonioni -- but with that avant-garde of Italian auteurs, I find Visconti the most fascinating.

Visconti was an open homosexual, and even cast Helmet Berger, his partner at the time, as the lead as a Nazi pedophile in The Damned. He was a filmmaker that was unafraid of exploring the taboo, and The Damned contains the most disturbing scene I've ever seen involving pedophilia. I didn't enjoy the film, it's not Visconti's best, but it left an indelible impression on me.

Death in Venice also contains a character that is attracted to the likes of a child, though it seems Gustav is more infatuated with the innocence that the young, arian boy represents. The film is much more on-the-nose than the novel, and I think it was a mistake that Gustav eventually makes contact with the boy. If you can look passed the exterior, it's a very humane film about decay and inexorability.

I find it interesting that Roger Ebert gave sorely negative reviews of those two films. They remind me of the reviews he gave for A Clockwork Orange , Blue Velvet , and Fight Club. He reviewed these films based off of the way they made him feel. When the joke is on him.

Le notti bianche is probably my favorite Visconti film. It may have to do with my man-crush on Mastroianni, but it's an atmospheric fever dream that's as bittersweet as any film I've seen. I gathered from this film that it's somtimes more important to relish the pursuit of a fantastical life than basque in the reality of one. This film served as bridge between Visconti's neo realistic filmography and the films he would make from the '60s on.

Like I said, he's not my favorite Italian filmmaker; however, he's a director that makes my guts churn whilst looking at some beautiful photography.
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I like Death in Venice okay, but with Visconti it's all about Ossessione, La Terra Terma (if only for what it proved), Le Notti Blanche, Rocco and his Brothers and The Leopard. I love the director for those four. His adaptation of The Stanger is not particularly great for the material. But The Leopard is fucking amazing, as is Rocco.
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I like Death in Venice okay, but with Visconti it's all about Ossessione, La Terra Terma (if only for what it proved), Le Notti Blanche, Rocco and his Brothers and The Leopard. I love the director for those four. His adaptation of The Stanger is not particularly great for the material. But The Leopard is fucking amazing, as is Rocco.
Those films are much better than the one's that rounded out his career, I just highlighted his most controversial or most known to the public. Visconti mirrors Fellini in the sense that he fell flat on his face at the end of his career.
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I think Visconti tends to get overlooked, which is a shame, he's a great director. He took The Postman Always Rings Twice and re-fashioned it into something else, some definite homosexual subtext in there. I think someone said Visconti casted with his dick hence you get Alain Delon in the epic Rocco and his brothers and The Leopard. He also discovered Claudia Cardinale, so we can thank him for that.

Death in Venice is ok if only for that staggeringly beautiful opening sequence. Visconti remains a fascinating person, he came from a privileged background, became a marxist then spent the rest of his career lamenting his upper class roots.
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Loved The Leopard - the book is really great too, though possibly too similiar for someone who's seen the movie. Saw Belissima as well and that just wasn't my kind of thing at all. Sergio Leone was a fan and saw Visconti as a sort of kindred spirit, because both directors were extremley obsessive-cumpulsive about things like wardrobe, set design, etc.


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I find it interesting that Roger Ebert gave sorely negative reviews of those two films. They remind me of the reviews he gave for A Clockwork Orange , Blue Velvet , and Fight Club. He reviewed these films based off of the way they made him feel. When the joke is on him.
I'm not sure it is; I don't really see anything wrong with that approach, when it's done as upfront as Ebert does it.
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I really want to see Senso.
post #7 of 10
I had this bizarre dream last night that on an emotional level, reminded me of Death in Venice and how I responded to it the first time I saw it. At the time I hadn't experienced anything like unrequited love, but nevertheless, I felt very connected to Gustav von Aschenbach. In the intervening years since seeing the film, I've had some experiences that have brought the film and character even closer to my heart, it's in my top 5.

Ossessione I need to own, clearly it's the best version of the Postman Always Rings Twice. I'm not really sure if I was cognizant of the gay subtext when I first saw it, or if I was just kind of subconciously turned on by it, but yeah, I definitely soaked that one up. It's impossible not to.

For the life of me, though I love Helmut Berger, I cannot commit to The Damned.
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Ebert can be a little narrow-minded when it comes to films that contain violence to get a message across. Watch Siskel and Ebert's review of Blue Velvet.

The Damned is a tough fucking movie. It certainly doesn't have the magic that The Leopard or White Nights has, but it's essential.
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Ebert can be a little narrow-minded when it comes to films that contain violence to get a message across. Watch Siskel and Ebert's review of Blue Velvet.
No, yeah, but I think he's upfront enough about that bias that basically everyone reading him knows that - and I like that, because everyone has biases and you might as well put them upfront.
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Ossessione I need to own, clearly it's the best version of the Postman Always Rings Twice. I'm not really sure if I was cognizant of the gay subtext when I first saw it, or if I was just kind of subconciously turned on by it, but yeah, I definitely soaked that one up. It's impossible not to.
In regards to the gay subtext, it might just have been a deep friendship between the two wanderers, not necessarily homosexual but seeing as the director was openly gay, it makes you wonder. It added an interesting depth to the material though. Visconti also knows a beautiful woman when he sees one, Ossessione had Clara Calamai, Rocco had Claudia Cardinale.

Did anyone find Alain Delon's character in Rocco to be christlike, the way he constantly sacrifices for his brother.
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