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post #1 of 163
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I don't know what my embargo is exactly, so I'll just say that if you must see this, SEE IT IN 2D. The 3D is an embarrassment.
post #2 of 163
RE: poor quality 3d

Sad to hear it.. But not surprised. These 'converted' 2d films are pretenders and are unfit to be shown in the third dimension. We must begin shooting films in native 3D. The Revolution demands nothing less. Does your embargo prevent you from answering the following question, Devin?

Does the film stay fairly close to Greek mythology (at least within the limits of reasonable use of dramatic license in the context of summer 'tent pole' pictures)?

I want to like this but I'm a bit worried it would just aggravate me

PS I've recently been of the mind that 2012 would have benefited enormously from the 3d Revolution.
post #3 of 163
I gave up my seat at the screening tonight. I don't know if it was out of charity so much as I'd get a free pass from the theater, and I could come back and see it in 2D on Thursday.
post #4 of 163
2D was always the way to go with this one. The trailer looks great, but I'm starting to wonder if the film manages to live up to the marketing.
post #5 of 163
So we can expect the review Thursday night? Looking forward to it ...
(although the "if you must see this" has me a bit worried, probably reading too much into it ..)
post #6 of 163
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
So we can expect the review Thursday night? Looking forward to it ...
(although the "if you must see this" has me a bit worried, probably reading too much into it ..)
That was my impression of the wording, I don't think you're reading too much into it at all. Too bad.
post #7 of 163
My theater is showing it in 2D.
post #8 of 163
Not at all surprised the 3D stinks here, I've been warning my friends about the scam because I don't want to see people fooled into thinking they are paying through the nose for an Avatar-level experience.

Not that this news affects my weekend because my theater is strictly 2D and I'm going to see Kick Ass, anyway.

Can't wait to see the review.
post #9 of 163
3D or 2... I had no designs on seeing this in the theater to begin with. This news doesn't change a thing. I AM kind of hoping that it flat out sucks though, just so Devin can rip it to shreds.
post #10 of 163
It's pretty bad. Completely lacking in excitement, charm, or character. And Devin's right, the 3D adds NOTHING. There's a weird softening of definition that drains the creatures of any weight they might have otherwise had. Every single shot of Ralph Fiennes is inadvertently hilarious, though.
post #11 of 163
Well, I hope my Friday date night with the wife's not ruined. I'll avoid the 3D.
post #12 of 163
I knew about the 3D sucking, but dammit...i really wanted a myh adventure to kickass.
Is it really not even worth seeing in theaters at cheaper price? (It has Neeson on it dammit! And a Kraken!)
post #13 of 163
The 3D is SHIT. The movie is meh, lacking in thrills, excitement or characters it's hard to give much of a damn about. But Sam Worthington actually acquits himself well as an understated badass (and as an Aussie, I was tickled that he didn't even attempt to mask his native accent).

I repeat: The 3D is SHIT. Utterly distracting and pointless.

And Gemma Arterton is the new hotness.
post #14 of 163
The only thing Worthington acquits himself of is charisma.
post #15 of 163
Reviews are popping up everywhere calling the movie a major disappointment and they all agree that the 3D is atrocious. Bye bye Avengers for Leterrier.
post #16 of 163
Damn, was hoping this would a fun time at the flicks.
post #17 of 163
So the 3D is crap, and I expected that, but the movie sucks? Shit! I was expecting "decent" at least.
post #18 of 163
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Originally Posted by tommy five-tone View Post
The movie is meh, lacking in thrills, excitement or characters it's hard to give much of a damn about.
How is this even possible? Lacking in thrills, it actually takes some pretty dedicated effort to make this story boring.
post #19 of 163
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
How is this even possible? Lacking in thrills, it actually takes some pretty dedicated effort to make this story boring.
Have you seen the original? Outside of the Medusa sequence it's a snooze-fest.
post #20 of 163
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Originally Posted by tommy five-tone View Post
The 3D is SHIT. The movie is meh, lacking in thrills, excitement or characters it's hard to give much of a damn about. But Sam Worthington actually acquits himself well as an understated badass (and as an Aussie, I was tickled that he didn't even attempt to mask his native accent).
Figures the cash-in 3D stunt would be a waste. Hopefully that puts the damper on this trend before it has a chance to bury itself.

Are the effects MUMMY RETURNSish? I got the impression from the trailers that they were in danger of going overboard. I mean, just one overdone scene after another attempting to pass for a narrative. Some of the shots with the scorpions look pretty impressive(they at least give the impression of weight and depth), but the Medusa looks pretty flat and way too artificial, in the VAN HELSING kind of way.

I really don't want to spend the dough on something that is just going to be a poor effects show-reel.
post #21 of 163
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post
Have you seen the original? Outside of the Medusa sequence it's a snooze-fest.
I STILL say that the Pegasus capture/taming sequence is one of the most perfect moments in cinema.

Disappointed to hear that the new version doesn't deliver. I look forward to your actual review, Devin.
post #22 of 163
The Pegasus sequence is plagued by some of the absolute worst day-for-night cinematography I've ever seen in a studio film. Even as a kid I was irritated by that. Also, if Harry Hamlin has been able to sell the wonder of riding a flying horse any, or hell, even emote ANYTHING.
post #23 of 163
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Originally Posted by soylentgreen View Post
Some of the shots with the scorpions look pretty impressive(they at least give the impression of weight and depth), but the Medusa looks pretty flat and way too artificial, in the VAN HELSING kind of way.
The scorpions do work, but the scene drags on for way too long. You're dead on with Medusa. In a movie like this, the worst thing you can have is soulless monsters. They spend time setting up her sad backstory, but when we get to her big scene it's just a boss fight with a cackling snake witch. No sense of danger, no nothing.
post #24 of 163
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post
The Pegasus sequence is plagued by some of the absolute worst day-for-night cinematography I've ever seen in a studio film. Even as a kid I was irritated by that. Also, if Harry Hamlin has been able to sell the wonder of riding a flying horse any, or hell, even emote ANYTHING.
We'll have to agree to disagree, then. I found it to be pretty much the ONLY scene in the film that had a genuine sense of beauty and wonder to it. I'll agree that Hamlin was a pretty mediocre actor in this film, but I really thought that he kinda brought the goods here.

I WILL agree that the Medusa scene is pretty much the only other sequence that really works effectively in the entire film.

End derail. This conversation doesn't really belong in this thread yet.
post #25 of 163
Basically, the 3D glasses end up being a new pair of sunglasses. I actually took mine off and watched it and didn't notice a difference, outside of the occasional two-lines.
post #26 of 163
The trailer was great but I had a feeling in my gut this would disappoint.

Sam Worthington doesn't cut it, sorry Hollywood.
post #27 of 163
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Originally Posted by Keletron View Post
The scorpions do work, but the scene drags on for way too long. You're dead on with Medusa. In a movie like this, the worst thing you can have is soulless monsters. They spend time setting up her sad backstory, but when we get to her big scene it's just a boss fight with a cackling snake witch. No sense of danger, no nothing.
I mean, when you see the Making Of docs, and you see Medua looking like a PS3 game boss character, moving like a cheetah, with that stupid fucking exaggerated "scary CGI face"....it just kills all excitement. Ironic how the technically "inferior" version of Medusa is 10x more threatening and fear-inducing than the 2010 Medusa-On-Cocaine (going off the accounts of yall who have seen the film already, which I'm 99.9% positive we'll share the same sentiments).
post #28 of 163
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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB View Post
The trailer was great but I had a feeling in my gut this would disappoint.

Sam Worthington doesn't cut it, sorry Hollywood.
Actually i had my worries all along because of Leterrier, not Worthington. And i think i wasn't off. That guy never showed real chops.
post #29 of 163
So they made all of the critics watch the 3D version?
post #30 of 163
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Actually i had my worries all along because of Leterrier, not Worthington. And i think i wasn't off. That guy never showed real chops.
Yeah, he sucks too. I don't want this guy anywhere near Y THE LAST MAN.
post #31 of 163
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Reviews are popping up everywhere calling the movie a major disappointment and they all agree that the 3D is atrocious. Bye bye Avengers for Leterrier.
If COTT underperforms, that may be a blessing in disguise because I for one don't think Leterrier is right for The Avengers, and this may prompt Marvel to look for another, more suitable, director. The Avengers will be a culmination of all the tie-ins & cameos in their recent superhero movies, and Marvel cannot afford to hand the rein to a director who is still a question mark in terms of his ability to deliver a quality film on a consistent basis.
post #32 of 163
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Originally Posted by Keletron View Post
The scorpions do work, but the scene drags on for way too long. You're dead on with Medusa. In a movie like this, the worst thing you can have is soulless monsters. They spend time setting up her sad backstory, but when we get to her big scene it's just a boss fight with a cackling snake witch. No sense of danger, no nothing.
I really love the original COTT's scene with Medusa, because you can really sense the feeling of terror and threat as Perseus was trying to slay her without looking into her deadly glaze. It appears that while they improved on the technology, they could not do likewise for the atmosphere as well.
post #33 of 163
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So they made all of the critics watch the 3D version?
3/4ths of Massawyrm's review over at AICN are about how shitty the 3D was. He then goes on to call the actual movie "alright", pretty but hollow. His biggest criticism seems to have been that they just made this a PG-13 God of War.
post #34 of 163
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Originally Posted by Keletron View Post
You're dead on with Medusa. In a movie like this, the worst thing you can have is soulless monsters. They spend time setting up her sad backstory, but when we get to her big scene it's just a boss fight with a cackling snake witch. No sense of danger, no nothing.
Sad to hear. Considering that she's figured as such a pivotal element in most folks understanding of the story(and the narratives of both films), it's surprising they wouldn't give her the keenest effort.

It sounds as if even the Martian lightprobe scene in WAR OF THE WORLDS captures the tension of the original's confrontation more than this new version.


Anyone mentioning the impact of the score on the film? I'm particularly curious about this. For better or worse, the appropriateness of a score can carry an inordinate amount of weight with me.

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I found it to be pretty much the ONLY scene in the film that had a genuine sense of beauty and wonder to it. I'll agree that Hamlin was a pretty mediocre actor in this film, but I really thought that he kinda brought the goods here.
I agree, Judas. Partial to the vibe, myself. Still get teeny ten-year-old's goosebumps with that final silhouetted shot.

post #35 of 163
If the general audience reacts to the 3D with similar venom, I would love it if the 3D screens went back to How to Train Your Dragon. The movie is definitely one of the best Dreamworks has ever done and the 3D actually makes everything so much sweeter.

EDIT: Huh... didn't realize Muse wasn't on (or was never on) the score for the movie. It's Ramin Djawadi, of the largely forgettable Iron Man score. That's too bad.
post #36 of 163
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It's Ramin Djawadi, of the largely forgettable Iron Man score.
Ugh. Ugh. Christ, I hope Favreau sacked him for Iron Man 2.

ETA: Yessssssss. Although the replacement isn't too much more noteworthy. Hopefully it's not more generic crap-rock. /derail
post #37 of 163
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post
Have you seen the original? Outside of the Medusa sequence it's a snooze-fest.
This could describe any Ray Harryhausen movie, outside of like, The Valley of Gwangi. The effects are still charming of course, but people forget how awful most of those movies are.
post #38 of 163
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Ugh. Ugh. Christ, I hope Favreau sacked him for Iron Man 2.

ETA: Yessssssss. Although the replacement isn't too much more noteworthy. Hopefully it's not more generic crap-rock. /derail
Debney did great work for The Scorpion King!!
post #39 of 163
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
I don't know what my embargo is exactly, so I'll just say that if you must see this, SEE IT IN 2D. The 3D is an embarrassment.
Thanks for the warning. I'll pass on this one.
post #40 of 163
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Guys, you're going to figure out what a Post Release thread is for some day, right? Hint: it's not for talking about the Pegasus scene in the original when you haven't seen the new one.
post #41 of 163
Save the carping for one of the dozens of GREEN LATERN, SCOTT PILGRIM or THOR threads. They're fuckin' replies.
post #42 of 163
I just want to pop in this pre-release thread and say its sad this is so bungled from a 3d standpoint I was ready to pony up the coin after the last one I watched was Avatar.

Good job studio head honchos!
post #43 of 163
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Save the carping for one of the dozens of GREEN LATERN, SCOTT PILGRIM or THOR threads. They're fuckin' replies.
No, asshole, those threads are fine. This is a post release thread. This is for people who have seen the movie, or for people who want to comment on the review.

We keep post release separate to keep folks free from spoilers but also so that when the movie opens there's a fresh thread for people to chat in. We have a pre-release thread so you can blather all you want BEFORE you see the movie.

We don't have a lot of rules here, and this is one of the few. It's to make things easier, so that a movie's thread doesn't have six pages before it even opens, so that people don't feel like it's been all discussed out or like going into the thread is too intimidating.

If you don't like the way we do these things, please fuck off.
post #44 of 163
What happened to all that "OMG! I hear the 3D looks awesome!" remarks from other sites?
post #45 of 163
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Guys, you're going to figure out what a Post Release thread is for some day, right? Hint: it's not for talking about the Pegasus scene in the original when you haven't seen the new one.
What about foreign chewers who have to wait FUCKING AGES till films get released and we can see them? Should i have to wait to see and comment on fellow chewers thoughs on films to decide if I should pay good money for them or not?
post #46 of 163
whut
post #47 of 163
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
How is this even possible? Lacking in thrills, it actually takes some pretty dedicated effort to make this story boring.
Well, somehow Leterrier pulls it off. And I do place the blame with the director, who seems incapable of bringing any sense of velocity or impact to the action sequences. Perseus' first encounter with Calibos starts off OK but once the giant scorpions enter the fray it quickly enters who-cares territory - anonymous cannon-fodder characters getting dispatched in boring ways.

And the movie hasn't generated enough interest in the remaining members of Perseus' war party by the time they reach Medusa's lair that you give a shit once they start getting killed/turned to stone - a fatal flaw. Poor Mads Mikkelsen was clearly trying his best to inject some deeper meaning into his character but was thwarted by dud scripting or ham-fisted editing.

Look, I didn't mind the finale, where Perseus arrives back in Argos on the back of the black Pegasus to save Andromeda from the DEEP RISING monster - it had a sense of scale and spectacle missing from the movie until that point. But it still wasn't exciting or stirring in any way.

Honestly, if this movie is a test designed to provoke an emotional response, I'm a replicant. Because I literally felt nothing...okay, a little amusement during some of the cheesier moments, perhaps. But I was neither bored nor thrilled by a movie that just, you know, happens.

But I reiterate: Worthington worked for me. And some of the other performances (Neeson, Fiennes, Jason Flemyng, Alexa Davalos) were effective.

Hey, COLOR OF NIGHT's Jane March is in this somewhere! I didn't see her but she's on the cast list.
post #48 of 163
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What about foreign chewers who have to wait FUCKING AGES till films get released and we can see them? Should i have to wait to see and comment on fellow chewers thoughs on films to decide if I should pay good money for them or not?
Not only does this not make a lick of sense from the beginning, since almost nobody in here is talking about the new movie it makes even less sense.

Go chat in the pre release thread.
post #49 of 163
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
Not only does this not make a lick of sense from the beginning, since almost nobody in here is talking about the new movie it makes even less sense.

Go chat in the pre release thread.
But not a single chewer will give their opinion of a movie they havent seen in that thread, which is what interests me.
"Let the right one in" opened here jut last week; by your logic i shouldnt post in the post release section until now? Evn if im curious about chewer reaction to the flick?
You complain when we're not talking movies, you complain when we do talk movies.
You dont make a lick of sense to me either.
post #50 of 163
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You know that it's possible to read threads without posting in them, right?
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