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post #1901 of 2060
New BOTW is a good one. DB Cooper vs. Bigfoot defies belief.
post #1902 of 2060

I thought they had done Black Cougar already, but then I remembered it was the, lost to time, foywonder (who, from memory, ended up in whatever sort of exchange people had before twitter with Silvio himself)

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20080918094941/http://foywonder.com:80/current_columns/foy_1107.html

 

And yes they really did pitch a superhero character on American Inventors.

post #1903 of 2060
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Originally Posted by Jmurdoch View Post

New BOTW is a good one. DB Cooper vs. Bigfoot defies belief.

Jesus Christ, yes. And like they pointed out, the concept had so much promise as a great little B-movie horror/ thriller. 

post #1904 of 2060

Len sure is a good sport, and seems more and more comfortable and enjoying his time there more and more with each visit.

 

I wish I had friends...

post #1905 of 2060

Len increasingly seems like a good guy.  Nice to have Jack at the table again, and I'm actually grateful they did DB Cooper vs. Bigfoot, because I wasnted to see that, knowing nothing about it.

post #1906 of 2060

Their viewing of RAW FORCE went very much like the viewing my college friends and I had a few years back.  Not a good movie but an always involving one, right up there with MIAMI CONNECTION. 

post #1907 of 2060
I don't know where else to report this, but: the hip-hop DJ at the bar I'm at right now just sampled the Night Court theme song.
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post #1909 of 2060

It's pronounced Gall Gaddott.

post #1910 of 2060

I have no plans to see The Mummy, but I did enjoy Mike and Jay talking about what a mess it is.

 

post #1911 of 2060
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I have no plans to see The Mummy, but I did enjoy Mike and Jay talking about what a mess it is.

 

 

I'm hit or miss on these videos but this one is pretty spot on.  

post #1912 of 2060
I was genuinely impressed with Jay Bauman bringing up digital de-aging with regard to Cruise. Cruise's youthful appearance has received a lot of commentary with this movie, but this was the first time I've heard someone go there.
post #1913 of 2060
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I was genuinely impressed with Jay Bauman bringing up digital de-aging with regard to Cruise. Cruise's youthful appearance has received a lot of commentary with this movie, but this was the first time I've heard someone go there.

 

And the digital de-aging on display here is ridiculous.  Embrace the wrinkles, Tom.

post #1914 of 2060
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I was genuinely impressed with Jay Bauman bringing up digital de-aging with regard to Cruise. Cruise's youthful appearance has received a lot of commentary with this movie, but this was the first time I've heard someone go there.

 

Wait, did they digitally de-age Cruise in The Mummy?  

 

Poor Brendan Fraser.  Not only is he being bled dry financially, but he was just replaced in a reboot of his career-making franchise by an actor six years older than him.  

post #1915 of 2060
Thread Starter 
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New BOTW is a good one. DB Cooper vs. Bigfoot defies belief.

 

How a movie called DB Cooper vs. Bigfoot could be anything but awesome...that defies belief!

post #1916 of 2060
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How a movie called DB Cooper vs. Bigfoot could be anything but awesome...that defies belief!
If that exists...there's no way I'm not gonna watch it. Reminds me that I still need to see Chupacabras vs The Alamo..
post #1917 of 2060
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How a movie called DB Cooper vs. Bigfoot could be anything but awesome...that defies belief!
"More wandering around in the Pacific Northwest than an entire season of The X-Files!"
post #1918 of 2060

 

post #1919 of 2060
I planned the saddest Friday night around watching that review while I washed dishes. :|
post #1920 of 2060

Hahaha

post #1921 of 2060

Is there meant to be 16 minutes of blank screen on that review or is my internet connection fucked? or is that part of the joke?

post #1922 of 2060
I think it's part of the joke.
post #1923 of 2060

It's the entire joke.

post #1924 of 2060

Although I think the sound effects gag adds a lot.  Aural chaos that's actually boring somehow.

I've had far too many people people tell me with a straight face that the sound effects work in these movies is Amazing!!  People who should really know better.

It's like they get "Industrial asstd." sample CD put it in the cd player and kick it down the stairs.

post #1925 of 2060
I don't want to track down the exact quote, but Ebert summed up the sound design of Transformers as if one was listening to kitchen appliances crashing together.
post #1926 of 2060
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"More wandering around in the Pacific Northwest than an entire season of The X-Files!"

 

Watch the BOTW, there's no Pacific Northwest in it.  A crappy Mcmansion in Palm Springs maybe.

 

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If that exists...there's no way I'm not gonna watch it. Reminds me that I still need to see Chupacabras vs The Alamo..

 

No, it's worse than you're thinking.  I mean, how can someone ruin a great premise like that?!  But they found a way.

post #1927 of 2060

I am tired of the Ghostbusters: Answer the Call conversation (as I said in the actual thread a few days ago). But... a Plinkett review is too hard to pass up!

 

post #1928 of 2060
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I am tired of the Ghostbusters: Answer the Call conversation (as I said in the actual thread a few days ago). But... a Plinkett review is too hard to pass up!

 

 

I'm all in for this one, and I didn't even hate GHOSTBUSTERS '16 so much as I found it to be a total nonentity.  I'm sure they're going to tackle the hysteria/nonsense surrounding the reactions to the movie, too.

post #1929 of 2060

My only concern is they kinda already covered that - quite well as a matter of fact. I really don't want a repeat of their Star Wars Awakens video. Promising the Plinkett take on The Force Awakens when the first hour or so (of a ninety minute video) was just restating their beef with the prequels. They got rightfully called out on that bait and switch.

 

 

post #1930 of 2060

Good point.  I guess we'll have to wait and see what the angle is going to be.

post #1931 of 2060
Yeah the Plinkett reviews were always good about comparisons to prove their points. Ghostbusters 2016 needs to absolutely be compared to the original.
post #1932 of 2060

post #1933 of 2060

YAAAAAY!

post #1934 of 2060

Besides an excellent point on Bill Murray towards the end, this was a waste of time.

post #1935 of 2060
The segment of pointless boring-as-fuck product placement whining ends at 13:00 for anyone who wants to skip it.
post #1936 of 2060

That was a solid review, but no where near as good as the prequel and KOTCS reviews. The difference is those four movies where expected to be good maybe even great. A remake of Ghostbusters turning out to be subpar isn't a shock. This was better than his Force Awakens review though.

post #1937 of 2060

Not RLM's best work.

 

If nothing else, it does capably illustrate why the original film is so great, and why ANSWER THE CALL is so subpar in comparison.

post #1938 of 2060
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That was a solid review, but no where near as good as the prequel and KOTCS reviews. The difference is those four movies where expected to be good maybe even great. A remake of Ghostbusters turning out to be subpar isn't a shock. This was better than his Force Awakens review though.

It helps that while the prequels were misfires they were at least fascinating ones. The Nu Ghostbusters though? Not so much.
post #1939 of 2060

Holy shit, Katie Dippold and Paul Feig not recognizing the song from The Wizard of Oz made me facepalm more than anything in their shitty movie.

 

Seriously, what the fuck?

post #1940 of 2060
heheh I actually didn't recognize that particular song either!
post #1941 of 2060

Me too, and The Wizard of Oz was my first cinematic-obsession as a child.

post #1942 of 2060
I didn't but I don't give a fuck about the wizard of oz.

But if I had to pay thousands to clear a shitty ad lib I would remember the line.
post #1943 of 2060

The current top comment on the video:

 

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I don't get the way people jizz themselves over the original. I watched it as a kid and thought it was a fun movie, but never thought it was a funny movie. Watched again as adult, same thing. It's fine, but it sure as fuck isn't "one of the best movies ever made".
 

I can relate to this!

 

Now I like Ghostbusters well enough, it is very good. But I've never quite got the breathless passion and praise and to this day find it odd when people call it first and foremost a comedy, let alone one of the greatest comedies ever made.

 

I mean okay if you were familiar with the comedy lineage of its stars and creators (which as a kid I wasn't) it makes more sense to see it from that angle. But just taken on its own as a movie it's never struck me as much more comedic than any number of light hearted action adventures made from the 80's onwards. It'd be like calling Star Trek IV one of the greatest comedies ever made.

post #1944 of 2060
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I mean okay if you were familiar with the comedy lineage of its stars and creators (which as a kid I wasn't) it makes more sense to see it from that angle. But just taken on its own as a movie it's never struck me as much more comedic than any number of light hearted action adventures made from the 80's onwards. It'd be like calling Star Trek IV one of the greatest comedies ever made.

 

I think the Original through the Eddie Murphy SNL cast had this glow about them...they were perceived as much more funny than in many cases they actually were. 

 

I love 48 Hours, but Nick Nolte has more laugh lines than Eddie Murphy. But it's an "Eddie Murphy Movie". 

post #1945 of 2060
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Originally Posted by Paul C View Post

 

 

I can relate to this!

 

Now I like Ghostbusters well enough, it is very good. But I've never quite got the breathless passion and praise and to this day find it odd when people call it first and foremost a comedy, let alone one of the greatest comedies ever made.

 

I mean okay if you were familiar with the comedy lineage of its stars and creators (which as a kid I wasn't) it makes more sense to see it from that angle. But just taken on its own as a movie it's never struck me as much more comedic than any number of light hearted action adventures made from the 80's onwards. It'd be like calling Star Trek IV one of the greatest comedies ever made.

I watched it a bunch on VHS as a kid (along with ET and Last Crusade) because it was one of the few movies we had at home before I really got into movies.

 

So like I am with Last Crusade, there's a lot about Ghostbusters I take for granted due to familiarity.  It's pretty great, but I don't necessarily trust my opinions on it due to that familiarity.

 

But I get how you feel in terms of its INTENSE canonization as an untouchable classic, which is something I feel only happened over the past couple of decades or so as those who watched it a bunch like I did grew into the 'establishment' of movie fans.  Older friends of mine who have always liked the movie fine are also a bit bewildered by just how highly Ghostbusters has come to be regarded now.

 

I think the amazing amount of craft that the film has was only more intensely highlighted in contrast to the shaggy/loose comedies that have hit big since around 2000.  And the utter shoddiness of Ghostbusters 2016 just amplified that even further (and with good cause, I think).

 

I think that's something that just naturally kinda happens.

post #1946 of 2060

I guess I just find it weird that it's constantly singled out as a capital-c Comedy when funny action adventure movies aren't exactly a rarity. Age Of Ultron forces out a terrible gag every 12 seconds but no one refers to that as a comedy. If you took all the humour out of Ghostbusters and changed nothing else it'd probably be a lot more boring, but it would still be a proper film.

 

I actually think people implicitly know this and that's one of the reasons no one likes the 2016 Ghostbusters, which does (from what I've seen anyway) broadcast "Comedy movie here! Laffs-a-plenty!" at every moment.

post #1947 of 2060

Considering the cast involved, I'm not surprised that people just automatically label the original Ghostbusters a comedy.

 

oh god, the new Ghostbusters is the worst about being PERFORMATIVE about being a comedy

 

oooooh-weeeeee lookit meeeeee!

 

 

paul feig what happened to you?

 

 

Actually, from my experience, it feels like Ghostbusters simply used to be referred to as a fun comedy.  But now... it's a GREAT MOVIE.

post #1948 of 2060

Can we transplant Michael Gove with Paul Feig?

 

...please...No one would notice...

post #1949 of 2060
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I didn't but I don't give a fuck about the wizard of oz.

But if I had to pay thousands to clear a shitty ad lib I would remember the line.


Exactly. You and the other people who didn't remember it weren't given a major franchise to reboot. I understand hiring Feig but Dippold's feature scripts generally leave a lot to be desired. The Heat's probably her best and even that was fairly middling.

post #1950 of 2060

Here's the thing about the original GHOSTBUSTERS: the film is not a comedy...it's an adventure film (and a good one at that) with a sarcastic lead who is continuously riffing on things.  Remove Bill Murray from the film and it would play completely differently.  He IS there, though, and he's funny as hell as the guy who's there as a lark.  He's not there because he believes in ghosts...he's there because it's a business opportunity that enables him to hit on women and generally goof off.  We've all known that guy in real life.  Usually, he isn't that consistently funny (if he's funny at all...he usually comes off as the Bruno Kirby character in GOOD MORNING VIETNAM), but here he is.  Bill Murray is firing on all cylinders and the movie benefits from that.

 

Is it laugh out loud hilarious?  No, but it's got several extremely funny scenes pretty evenly spaced throughout its runtime.  Bill Murray seems to have a legitimately funny line about once every three minutes or so (on average).  There are no dead zones, so you're in a constant state of laughter afterglow for the entire runtime.  It's not uproarious, but it's consistent.

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