"If You Voted for Obama, Seek Care Elsewhere"

Stupid Obama, why waste money putting a bureaucrat between people and their doctor when a piece of paper would have done? Shit worked with drinking fountains.

A doctor refusing to aid any human-being for any reason should have his license revoked. I guess being a specialist that gets paid hundreds of dollars for simply looking at a patient is exempt from the Hippocratic Oath, right?

The real test is when someone purposely informs the Doc that he is a Obama supporter; if he is refused care, I would assume that the doctor would kiss his license goodbye.

...and if that happened, the republican party and Fox News would make an epic martyr out of the guy as some American hero fighting socialism. Joe the Doctor.

Piss on this guy.

Wouldn't be difficult, given his specialty.

Like I said elsewhere, this guy is a total asshole, but I'd probably have a bad temperament too if I went school all of those years just to inspect dicks all day.

I don't want to sound too ballsy here, but the doctor probably made the conscious decision at some point in his life to stare at dicks and feel testicles for lumps... His implied support of the GOP shouldn't come as a surprise providing if he is married to a woman.

Zing!

Hey, everyone who voted for Obama wanted "Change" now they can get it in the form of a new doctor. Good on them.

I'm Sorry Richard, is this your doctor? Are you upset because you can't get your wee witty winkey looked at by him anymore?

Get over it dude. I'm sure the sign is up because his business is failing and he's desperate to get more business and is trying to cash in on the anti-Obama sentitment. It's not like the health care bill is fucking him over as a doctor.

It'd be great if the bill is fucking him. Like maybe it's making him work a second job and his kids think he's a failure and stuff. I'd be all for that.

He could get himself a job at a Walmart. They wear white coats in the meat department... Hehe, meat department.

It is none of his business, he isn't asking them. If you weren't blind you would have noticed that in the article. This tends to be the problem with people, they see what they want to see and ignore facts.

If you weren't blind, you'd have read the sign advocating a specific political position. He's made seeing the local urologist politically complex for his patients. I'm sure you'll argue some asinine free market bullshit, but this is absolutely unethical behavior, and medicine is one of the few professions in which a lapse in ethical conduct is actionable. And if we're just talking Hippocratic Oath:

Jesus fucking Christ. I know you're the resident idiot troll around here, but this is beneath even you.

Go fuck yourself.

Show me a patient he has denied care to based on political views and I will agree, otherwise it's freedom of speech. His wife is a lawyer, I'm fairly confident this is not actionable.

Whether or not it's actionable, it's most definitely fucklame. Obviously it's not worth getting too upset about, but it's just another example of how serious about being assholes this crowd is.

He doesn't have to deny care directly.

His sign says that he denies care up front. So he's either denying treatment on the basis of politics (which is against the AMA Code of Ethics), or he's being deceptive (false advertising's also a no-no, according to the AMA).

Actionable? I don't know. Probably depends on whether the other side's lawyer can argue better than his wife. But you'd have to be an idiot to not see the ethical sketchiness of this.

Exactly. In that scenario, if a Jew came in, despite the sign warning him off, Cassell might huff and puff, but he'd still look at his junk. And that's exactly the kind of attentive, professional care you should expect from a health specialist, right?

Being in a service profession like medicine isn't the same as being a technician. The doctor-patient relationship is a lot more complicated than "the parts look okay - I'll give you a tune-up and get you out of here." That sign creates an environment that's the very opposite of what you seek if you have a health problem.

Know what else is awesome, aside from how unethical this is? According to urologyhealth.org, the official website of the American Urological Association Foundation, he is the only urologist in Mount Dora, Florida's two ZIP codes! Neato, huh? Even better still, his specialty is listed as oncology/cancer. The next closest urologist who lists the same specialty is 18 miles away. Boy oh boy, I bet those liberals with prostate cancer and limited access to transportation sure are red in the face right now! He sure showed them!

But hey, it's his right as an American to be a passive-aggressive bigot!

His sign doesn't say he is denying care. It says seek care elsewhere. It's a fine line but he isn't crossing it and once a potential patient steps through the door they are not questioned or denied care based on their political preference. It also isn't false advertising because he isn't advertising anything, he is exercising his freedom of speech.

It's also very disingenuous to condone a doctor for exercising his freedom of speech against a political party, policy or member when they are sought out by politicians to endorse a specific party policy, legislature or member. You can't hold them to a higher standard when they're leveraged as political tools.

There is usually a sign on the door that also shows what types of insurance are accepted. If you don't have that, are you being turned away? No, you can still come in and get treatment but you'll be expected to pay. Just like if you came in to this guy's office and you voted for Obama you can still get treatment but you'll probably get an earful of how much he dislikes the guy or his policies.

From the article, he's been handing out the bill for people to read in his waiting room along with some snark.

Why am I not surprised that Snaieke's taking up for this fucking douchebag?

Seriously, who cares about the legality? Unless you need a urologist in whatever backwoods he's working out of, this is just some guy showing his ass.

Someone could shoot up a roomful of schoolchildren in protest of Obama and Snaieke would defend them. He's a frigging sociopath.

So, wow, huh? Snaieke's an even bigger cocksucker than I ever imagined.

Seriously, man, you're a rotten human being. You make me wish that Hell actually existed.

It's only a fine line if you have virtually no understanding of how language operates. The wording was certainly sneakily designed, but it still implies that you will be denied treatment to the point that it will discourage patients to seek treatment there. It creates a chilling effect that's not at all true to the spirit of the code of ethics. It could lead patients to not seek treatment and that's truly fucked.

It's not?

Professional organizations serve vastly different social roles than professionals, themselves, especially if we're talking about service professionals. The American Library Association tends to swing pretty far left, but it still holds that it's unethical for an individual librarian to berate you for asking for help finding information on why Obama is the harbinger of doom.

So, Snaieke, if his sign said "Unless you voted for Obama, seek care elsewhere", you would be jumping to this guys defense still?

Because that's what this about for, you, right? Free speech and free enterprise? You're not just trying to be a twat?

This is a new low for your Snaieke, and you know it.

If i lived in the US, I'd probably be a republican...but i still wouldn't let this guy touch my junk:



Also, he might have the right to post the sign if he wants to (as long as he still attends patients regardless of political stance, as he claims), but its still wrong and not a right thing to do to his patients.
Still, he's not as bad as my former communist therapist; that was one depressingly boring waiting room.

Average urologist's salary in Florida is around $300K. In a little city with little competition, it tends to be higher. If this guy's business is failing, it's because he sucks at running a business, not because of health care reform. Or because he's, pardon the pun, a dick.

I admire your tenacity of defending this guy, but the sign is unethical, plain and simple. It's also misinformed, but the thread's devolved so it's too late to have that conversation.

The guy's a super douche and since Alan Grayson has received complaints he's pursuing this with the various medical authorities. This guy's grab at the spotlight will either get him into professional hot water or he'll just be the latest Joe the Plumber insta-celeb for the next fifteen minutes and then gone.

And what a pussy move that is, really. "Hey, I'm not turning anyone away, I'm just putting up a piece of paper with words on it..." FUCK YOU. If the Dems had a rabid, attention-seeking Tea Bagger equivalent, they'd fill that fucker's date book with appointments and wait until their warm fleshy sacs are in his hands before bringing up political small talk.

I guess he wont be seeing many cases of blue balls from now on.

So I guess it would be okay to put a sign in front of your house reading "No blacks on this property", as long as you didn't actually kick them off once they were there.

Snaieke, you are a real piece of shit and I wish you didn't post here.

My morals are constant regardless of who is President. I don't buckle because someone I support happens to be in office, unlike most of the people on here. I'm sure if I go back and dig I can find a post for almost everyone in here against something that has come out and Obama has supported and they just trod along like it's A OK.

I'm for freedom of speech. I could care less what you say using it, it doesn't mean I have to listen. Just like this guy, it doesn't mean I'd go see him as my doctor. I know some conservatives who would cheer and say "yeah! he's my doctor now!" that ain't me. I go to a doctor I want to get fixed, not have a political debate about healthcare.

I don't go around here posting bullshit fucking threads over liberals who say outlandish fucking shit. The only reason this thread exisits is because the liberal sheep on here wanted another thread to call someone a racist. Look at the first post. It's all anyone on here does, call the other guys racists and stupid. Where are the threads about the Patriot Act getting extended? or about the death tolls in Afghanistan or Iraq? They were all the rage when Bush was PoTUS but now they're all MIA and replaced with how retarded the GOP is.. very progressive!

When encountering a Snaieke post, it's important to provide it with the proper background music before you begin the arduous task of reading it.

Yeah, that's not even remotely the same thing.

Look, the guy is an uber-douche and I wouldn't shed a tear if because of this he had his license to practice suspended or revoked, but can we stop with all the racism analogies? It's a bit baffling that a few of us apparently don't understand the difference.