Step Down or Be Removed

yeah don't bother coming back to the US dude I wouldn't

It isn't much better here in England.

When a Democrat is in the White House, these yahoos seem to pop up. IIRC, these militia-types enjoyed a pretty big bump in pub in the mid 90s when Clinton was president. My memory sucks, I know, but did any of them give rise to any serious shenanigans? Were McVeigh or Rudolph (or the like) ever linked to any of these types of thing?

ETA: The comments at the link are pretty interesting, too. Sheesh.

So, unable to watch the video, I had to look up this organization's 26 point agenda.

What really brings the lulz rising to the back of my throat is how much this Coalition of the Crazy's plan for restoring America sounds like Communism and Socialism.

Huh?

Sorry. Knee-jerk comment made without thinking. I do think discourse is a little more civil here than home, although you can speak to that more than I can.

Less inclined to form militias, maybe, but I'd have to get in my car and go for a long drive to find some civilized debate. That's just personal experience, it really comes down to where you're situated.

That said, I don't think the average Englishman would care enough to threaten domestic terrorism, we'd just complain about things a little louder on the bus than we usually do.

Plus you've seen a rise in neo fascist politicians, if my understanding of your political climate is correct.

The BNP and UKIP aren't fascist as such as they're right wing and racist. They're extreme isolationists more than anything else. Still deplorable and hateful, but to call them fascist gives them perhaps too much credence.

The British are utterly apathetic to politics in general at the moment, although I think there were a few attempts made on good old Maggie Thatcher back in the 1980s. It's just that we're not raised to be terrified by the Government like Americans seemingly are. We have a view that politicians deal with politics and once we've voted them in it's their job to keep stuff going tits up. We have innate trust in people to do their job.

Yes and yes.

Odd, because that is the exact word that every media outlet here seems to use when describing these groups (and the EDL, too).

I think the one-two cockpunch of Vietnam and Watergate killed off a lot of people's trust in the government. You could put a dividing line between the WWII generation and everyone after that. My grandfather is the type of man who innately trusts the government (and has said as much). His children... not so much.

I clicked on that link expecting Granholm to show up at some point and sure enough, she's the second one shown on the screen.

I do enjoy how much a big deal is being made concerning on how these people will be removed from office, I mean really, it's obvious! They will be voted out!..... right? right?.....right......shit

Yeah but Olsons in the utopia that is Denmark:

Any sort of "radical" change in the United States isn't going to come from the end of a bayonet or at the ballot box. The radical change I foresee is going to be a wider rejection of the political process itself among like minded groups who coalesce around common causes/interests. We've seen similar happenings in the Anarchist movement inside North America over the last 20 years.

Personally, I think Americans (generally speaking) are wussies. All the Tea Party bullshit is posturing. Sure, you'll have an individual go off the rails and do something horrible but that's been true of every movement in this country tracing all the way back to Shay's Rebellion. When faced with the overwhelming political and military power of these United States people lose interest in taking up arms real fast. But technology is advancing to the point where communities as small as a single apartment building can provide for themselves many of the basic necessities we've assigned to government or business over the years.

I think some basic, overarching social structure will always be needed to settle disputes/enforce some sort of general state of order but I'm coming more and more convinced that the future of this country is at the community/grassroots level.