CHUD.com Community › Forums › CULTURE, HUMOR, & FREE FORM › Misc. Culture › The Internet...Brought to you by Comcast!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

The Internet...Brought to you by Comcast!

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/technology/07net.html

Quote:
Court Says F.C.C. Cannot Require ‘Net Neutrality’
By EDWARD WYATT
Published: April 6, 2010

WASHINGTON — A federal appeals court on Tuesday dealt a sharp blow to the efforts of the Federal Communications Commission to set the rules of the road for the Internet, ruling that the agency lacks the authority to require broadband providers to give equal treatment to all Internet traffic flowing over their networks.
Readers' Comments

The decision, by the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, specifically concerned the efforts of Comcast, the nation’s largest cable provider, to slow down customers’ access to a service called BitTorrent, which is used to exchange large video files, most often pirated copies of movies.

After Comcast’s blocking was exposed, the F.C.C. told Comcast to stop discriminating against BitTorrent traffic and in 2008 issued broader rules for the industry regarding “net neutrality,” the principle that all Internet content should be treated equally by network providers. Comcast challenged the F.C.C.’s authority to issue such rules and argued that its throttling of BitTorrent was necessary to ensure that a few customers didn’t unfairly hog the capacity of the network, slowing down Internet access for all of its customers.

But Tuesday’s court ruling has far larger implications than just the Comcast case.

The ruling would allow Comcast and other Internet service providers to restrict consumers’ ability to access certain kinds of Internet content, such as video sites like Hulu.com or Google’s YouTube service, or charge certain heavy users of their networks more money for access.

Google, Microsoft and other big producers of Web content have argued that such controls or pricing policies would thwart innovation and customer choice.

Consumer advocates said the ruling, one of several that have challenged the F.C.C.’s regulatory reach, could also undermine all of the F.C.C.’s efforts to regulate Internet service providers and establish its authority over the Internet, including its recently released national broadband plan.

“This decision destroys the F.C.C.’s authority to build broadband policy on the legal theory established by the Bush administration,” said Ben Scott, the policy director for Free Press, a nonprofit organization that advocates for broad media ownership and access.

The decision could reinvigorate dormant efforts in Congress to pass a federal law specifically governing net neutrality, a principle generally supported by the Obama administration.

While the decision is a victory for Comcast, it also has the potential to affect the company’s pending acquisition of a majority stake in NBC Universal.

Members of Congress have expressed concern that the acquisition could give Comcast the power to favor the content of its own cable and broadcast channels over those of competitors, something that Comcast has said it does not intend to do. Now, members of Congress could also fret that Comcast will also block or slow down customers’ access to the Web sites of competing television and telecommunications companies.

In a statement, the F.C.C. said it remained “firmly committed to promoting an open Internet.” While the court decision invalidated its current approach to that goal, the agency said, “the Court in no way disagreed with the importance of providing a free and open Internet, nor did it close the door to other methods for achieving this important end.”
I don't know if I have much of an opinion on this just yet, but I thought I'd bring it to the attention of everyone 'round these parts. I'm curious as to the general consensus about this ruling.
post #2 of 10
We're at such a weird place because this all feels like corporation versus corporation. Bandwidth caps and tiered internet are NOT in the favor of big media companies - Time Warner capping consumers is weird because Time Warner wants consumers downloading big movie and game files.

I suspect it'll all shake out for the best.
post #3 of 10
Just want to voice my support for Net Neutrality (Someone needs to come up for a better name for it ASAP )
post #4 of 10
I have little faith in the technophobic US Supreme Court being able to wrap heads around the issue. Most people, let alone lawyers, that have to figure out the issues involved and explain it to nine people with the combined age of 20,340 and little use of modern technology to understand it.

It appears that the DC Circuit left a loophole in that they state that FCC under its current classifications of broadband didn't have the power to regulate the internet. meaning that if it reclassified broadband (ie put it in the same category as broadcast tv and radio as opposed to electronic devices), they could reset the entire issue.

The bad facts of this case are that it's trying to defend the rights to access Torrents, which is like trying to defend the due process rights of a terrorist leader who has organized attacks from his prison cell. (ok maybe that's extreme)
post #5 of 10
The FCC has one last card left to play, naming broadband a heavily regulated industry instead of a lightly regulated industry. Then it would be up to congress to act.
post #6 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jcassady View Post
It appears that the DC Circuit left a loophole in that they state that FCC under its current classifications of broadband didn't have the power to regulate the internet. meaning that if it reclassified broadband (ie put it in the same category as broadcast tv and radio as opposed to electronic devices), they could reset the entire issue.
Good point. Hopefully people stay enough on the ball to pressure the FCC and Congress to safeguard net neutrality, before we end up going back in time to when the movie companies controlled production, distribution and exhibition.

Or will the people of the US prefer to bitch some more about health care reform killing old people and taking away the freedom of people to get sick and die?
post #7 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jcassady View Post
I have little faith in the technophobic US Supreme Court being able to wrap heads around the issue. Most people, let alone lawyers, that have to figure out the issues involved and explain it to nine people with the combined age of 20,340 and little use of modern technology to understand it.

It appears that the DC Circuit left a loophole in that they state that FCC under its current classifications of broadband didn't have the power to regulate the internet. meaning that if it reclassified broadband (ie put it in the same category as broadcast tv and radio as opposed to electronic devices), they could reset the entire issue.

The bad facts of this case are that it's trying to defend the rights to access Torrents, which is like trying to defend the due process rights of a terrorist leader who has organized attacks from his prison cell. (ok maybe that's extreme)

If I remember right, the reason that radio and broadcast TV are heavily regulated is because the content is available without requesting that it be delivered to your home. That could be a sticking point. Still, any avenue that preserves neutrality is all good by me.
post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
NPR has a brief but pretty good breakdown of what this ruling means, and how it might play out in the long run here.
post #9 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Olson View Post
NPR has a brief but pretty good breakdown of what this ruling means, and how it might play out in the long run here.
Thanks for the link!

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeI View Post
The FCC has one last card left to play, naming broadband a heavily regulated industry instead of a lightly regulated industry. Then it would be up to congress to act.
So, do I get that right? The FCC itself does not have the legal authority to classify internet into such categories but it is up to the legislators to act on this one? I am curious about how this works on a legal techical level.
post #10 of 10
Internet and telecommunications should be just as heavily regulated (for quality of service provided not for content) as water utilities. And then the FCC should set assurances for net neutrality in stone. A tiered internet will mean its death. Imagine CHUD posting a new trailer and half the readers not being able to watch it because they subscribe to package A instead of B.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Misc. Culture
CHUD.com Community › Forums › CULTURE, HUMOR, & FREE FORM › Misc. Culture › The Internet...Brought to you by Comcast!