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post #51 of 72


Second comment below the pic: "Why are the Untouchables fighting the TARDIS?
Lolol, i guess.
post #52 of 72
The pleats in those agents' pants do look exquisite, however.
post #53 of 72
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Originally Posted by ryoken View Post


Second comment below the pic: "Why are the Untouchables fighting the TARDIS?
Lolol, i guess.
Substitute "Monolith from 2001" for TARDIS and you have my reactions.

I don't want to make false accusations, but a couple of the defenders of this game here are coming off like Shills or mindless fanboys for the gaming company making this.
post #54 of 72
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I don't want to make false accusations, but a couple of the defenders of this game here are coming off like Shills or mindless fanboys for the gaming company making this.
Oh fuck off. I'm the one person here who thinks that BioShock was a steaming pile of shit, and I'm a shill or a mindless 2k fanboy? Sorry I can't muster the appropriate amount of hyperbolic nerdrage over a guy using a shotgun in a teaser trailer for a game using the same name as an IP that's been all but dead for thirteen years, but the previews indicate that there's enough going on with the structure of the game that it's not as far off from X-Com as everybody thinks.
post #55 of 72
It's a first-person shooter derived from a turn-based strategy game. It's exactly as far off as everybody thinks. Do we need to draw you a diagram?

You can shovel all the bullshit you like about the watered-down elements that make it a spiritual sequel. Enjoy the smell.
post #56 of 72
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So, yeah, this might be even worse than everyone feared.

E3 2010 debut trailer.
I tried to stay away as long as I could, but...

noooooooooooooooooooo
post #57 of 72
post #58 of 72
Sorry, Imma Let You Finish...but X-Com UFO Defense is one of the best games of all time...
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2K boss Christoph Hartmann:

“The ‘90s generation of gamers all love Xcom and we own the IP, so we thought OK, what do we do with it? Every studio we had wanted to do it and each one had its own spin on it. But the problem was that turn-based strategy games were no longer the hottest thing on planet Earth. But this is not just a commercial thing – strategy games are just not contemporary.

“I use the example of music artists. Look at someone old school like Ray Charles, if he would make music today it would still be Ray Charles but he would probably do it more in the style of Kanye West. Bringing Ray Charles back is all fine and good, but it just needs to move on, although the core essence will still be the same.

“That’s what we are trying to do. To renew Xcom but in line with what this generation of gamers want. The team behind it is asking themselves every day: ‘Is it true to the values of the franchise?’ It’s not a case of cashing in on the name. We just need to renew it because times are changing.”

Wow, that whole Ray Charles/Kanye example reminded me of the Chewbacca defense speech in south park...
post #59 of 72
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Originally Posted by mongycore View Post

Sorry, Imma Let You Finish...but X-Com UFO Defense is one of the best games of all time...


Quote:
2K boss Christoph Hartmann:

“The ‘90s generation of gamers all love Xcom and we own the IP, so we thought OK, what do we do with it? Every studio we had wanted to do it and each one had its own spin on it. But the problem was that turn-based strategy games were no longer the hottest thing on planet Earth. But this is not just a commercial thing – strategy games are just not contemporary.

“I use the example of music artists. Look at someone old school like Ray Charles, if he would make music today it would still be Ray Charles but he would probably do it more in the style of Kanye West. Bringing Ray Charles back is all fine and good, but it just needs to move on, although the core essence will still be the same.

“That’s what we are trying to do. To renew Xcom but in line with what this generation of gamers want. The team behind it is asking themselves every day: ‘Is it true to the values of the franchise?’ It’s not a case of cashing in on the name. We just need to renew it because times are changing.”



Wow, that whole Ray Charles/Kanye example reminded me of the Chewbacca defense speech in south park...

 

Obviously 2K is seeking to emulate Front Mission's recent success... oh wait.

 

The people who care about the IP want a strategy game, the people who like FPS generally don't buy such quirky looking ones on mass. That 2K boss is an arsehole.
 

 

post #60 of 72
I imagine Sid Meier playing Facebook civ this morning on one screen while reading that interview on another screen enjoying some cool icy papaya orange juice....now he has to buy two new monitors screaming to the heavens, "HARTMANN!!!!!!!!!!", with pulp dribbling down his chin.

I still have faith in Marin/Australia to do something cool; but I'm in no way impartial due to being friends with half the team...but man there should be rules against heads of studio opening their mouths stirring up already volatile hornets nests.
post #61 of 72

I just have to say as someone who never played the original: I think this looks really interesting, and am very interested in what the reviews have to say upon release.

post #62 of 72

This year completely turned me around on this game.  Last year's preview made it look like a slow paced, investigative, atmospheric, and fairly open game, that very much emphasised how out of their depth the player character and the XCOM people were in dealing with an alien invasion.

 

This year's preview makes it look like a fairly typical action oriented cover shooter affair with some limited squad commands. 

 

I don't give a shit any more. 

post #63 of 72

But why? It's going to have black men and gays and women! It will have social significance!

 

So strategy is dead? Someone should tell this to Blizzard, Relic, Firaxis and Creative Assembly. If they're not too busy selling millions of strategy games. They're after COD's scraps. And they're not getting any of it. Dr. Syn is right. No one wants this game. Not the fanbase, nor the mass audience. And to top it all up they will release it on the same day as Mass Effect 3.

 

What a clusterfuck.

 

 

post #64 of 72

On the bright side of things, maybe if this tanks, the long rumored "Syndicate"  revival wont be following on its footsteps ( i actually have nightmares of a squad based shooter Syndicate remake, like a cyberpunk ghost recon)

Seriously, all i want from and X-com game is strategy; if you want to use FPS elements for base exploring, minigames for the alien autopsies or alien tech research, fine, but leave the core gameplay thats made the series gain its fan alone;  update it to catch with the times, but dont reinvent the wheel.

 

post #65 of 72
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post

But why? It's going to have black men and gays and women! It will have social significance!

 

So strategy is dead? Someone should tell this to Blizzard, Relic, Firaxis and Creative Assembly. If they're not too busy selling millions of strategy games. They're after COD's scraps. And they're not getting any of it. Dr. Syn is right. No one wants this game. Not the fanbase, nor the mass audience. And to top it all up they will release it on the same day as Mass Effect 3.

 

What a clusterfuck.

 

 

 
Amen to this; hell, I bet Relic would make a kickass, modern X-com game in their sleep...hell, they could combine Dawn of war and Homeworld and toss early space exploration in it; Imagine having to fight the aliens all over the solar system, dealing with the different conditions and terrain of each planet making you research new tech and face specialized alien enemy units.

I think i just made myself sad thinking what a missed oportunity that is,

 

(Also, no love for Massive Entertainment? cause "World in conflict" was a great game, dammit!)

 

post #66 of 72

Aaaaaaaaannd "Syndicate" officially went into FPS for its return as well; its  a nice trailer and at least it looks like it wants to expand and follow the setting and feel of the original's gameworld, but still...FPS.

 

Wait, its being developed by Starbreeze, who were behind the Riddick game? Damn, that makes me have resevations about dismising this one.

post #67 of 72

There is just a handful of the Riddick people working in Starbreeze now. I wouldn't count pedigree among Syndicate's (not really) positives.

post #68 of 72
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post

There is just a handful of the Riddick people working in Starbreeze now. I wouldn't count pedigree among Syndicate's (not really) positives.


Well, thanks in advance for destroying my few hopes for this game.

On the other hand, this might mean GoG or some other service might re-release the original.

post #69 of 72

That trailer makes the game look like a blue-tinted version of the new Deus Ex.

post #70 of 72
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post

That trailer makes the game look like a blue-tinted version of the new Deus Ex.


I'm actually okay with this.



It also has a 4-player co-op mode with about 9 missions remade from Syndicate and Syndicate Wars.
post #71 of 72

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

 

Fuck. Yes. Now only if they can rename that FPS to something else.

post #72 of 72

Firaxis is gonna shit all over the Marin game, and not just because an FPS-style XCOM is a dumb idea: Marin made Bioshock 2, Enemy Unknown is being made by Sid Meier's company.

Everyone is going to act confused and play stupid when Enemy Unknown demolishes the FPS in sales.

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