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post #101 of 668
5/6/10 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by A-Pathetic View Post
Still feeling that prediction?

My guess is the Spurs win game 3. Too much on the line there, too much emotion, too much pride, home crowd. I think the Suns close it out in 5 at this point though. Face it, last night was exactly the kind of game the Spurs win against the Suns every time. These aren't the same Spurs, and these aren't the same Suns. The Suns match up really well with the Spurs which is what I'd said at the beginning.

The Lakers (assuming the Suns get there)...I'm not as thrilled about. The Suns will absolutely need Robin Lopez back, the Lakers aren't playing like they're unbeatable, but I still hate that matchup.
You're going to the Finals against the Magic. Book it.
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post #102 of 668
5/6/10 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by PBar View Post
You're going to the Finals against the Magic. Book it.
From your mouth to God's ear, PBar...

And goddamn, what a game last night. I had to turn it off during the first quarter and play some rock band to calm down. The last time I was that close to a coronary I was exercising to Avail.
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post #103 of 668
5/6/10 at 1:42pm
I want the Celtics to lose so that Bill Simmons can start writing articles about how basketball fans should be rooting for the Suns because then more teams will adopt their style of basketball.
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post #104 of 668
5/6/10 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by A-Pathetic View Post
Still feeling that prediction?

My guess is the Spurs win game 3. Too much on the line there, too much emotion, too much pride, home crowd. I think the Suns close it out in 5 at this point though. Face it, last night was exactly the kind of game the Spurs win against the Suns every time. These aren't the same Spurs, and these aren't the same Suns. The Suns match up really well with the Spurs which is what I'd said at the beginning.
Your boys are indeed looking good, and I especially admire the team's political stance --but I stand by the Spurs. A 2-0 lead is nothing.

As an aside, there have been discussions recently on both TNT and ESPN about who's now the best point guard in the league. Who you guys got? I have a hard time giving the title to Deron Williams, I don't think of him as a game changer yet. (I dont watch a lot of Jazz games, so i may be completely wrong) He's very good, but not great. Guess I still back Chris Paul and Steve Nash.
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post #105 of 668
5/6/10 at 2:52pm
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Originally Posted by A-Pathetic View Post
I want the Celtics to lose so that Bill Simmons can start writing articles about how basketball fans should be rooting for the Suns because then more teams will adopt their style of basketball.
I almost want the Celtics to win so we can see what creative excuses the media comes up with for LeBron this year.
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post #106 of 668
5/6/10 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
Your boys are indeed looking good, and I especially admire the team's political stance --but I stand by the Spurs. A 2-0 lead is nothing.

As an aside, there have been discussions recently on both TNT and ESPN about who's now the best point guard in the league. Who you guys got? I have a hard time giving the title to Deron Williams, I don't think of him as a game changer yet. (I dont watch a lot of Jazz games, so i may be completely wrong) He's very good, but not great. Guess I still back Chris Paul and Steve Nash.
I'd take Chris Paul in a couple of years. I think a good point guard needs a substantial basketball IQ in order to be really good, and that takes some time to develop. You could accuse me of being a homer here, but I think Steve Nash is the best in the league -- right now.

And are suggesting that the Spurs will win 4 of the next 5? The lack of production from their true bench players (not counting Parker) is what's killing them.
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post #107 of 668
5/6/10 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt View Post
I'd take Chris Paul in a couple of years. I think a good point guard needs a substantial basketball IQ in order to be really good, and that takes some time to develop. You could accuse me of being a homer here, but I think Steve Nash is the best in the league -- right now.

And are suggesting that the Spurs will win 4 of the next 5? The lack of production from their true bench players (not counting Parker) is what's killing them.
Williams is getting the nod from the media because they only remember what happened yesterday. Paul being hurt this season helps people to forget how amazing he is. I'd still take Paul over Williams.

The Spurs haven't had a bench all season. That might not matter if they were playing D'Antoni Suns, but it does matter now. I just don't see the Suns losing this series. If you hold the Suns well below 50% shooting and nearly eliminate their fast break points and STILL lose then it's just not happening. The Suns have turned into that team that will play whatever style you force them into, and still come out looking pretty good. They don't need to run and gun, they just hope you'll fall into it with them.
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post #108 of 668
5/6/10 at 9:55pm
Hey Vince, any time you feel like scoring, go right ahead.
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post #109 of 668
5/6/10 at 10:33pm
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Whatever happens from here on out, I'm proud the Hawks didn't rollover and die. We still have some fight!
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post #110 of 668
5/6/10 at 11:43pm
Well, until the fourth quarter anyway.
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post #111 of 668
5/7/10 at 4:59am
Orlando looks scary.

Don't think the Suns have a chance against the Lakers... LA is too smart, they know what to do to stop Phoenix, which is frustrate the hell out of Richardson and make him work for everything, let Amare get his and clog penetration and kickouts from Nash. 3-1 against them this year, with two 20 point ass-kickings.

Phoenix's win was big too... in the one game Artest didn't play. Lakers will take it in 6 most likely. Too smart, too well coached, too big, know how to dictate play as they've been doing for the past 3 years or so, Kobe's just going to have a field day and set the table for whomever he wants and score mostly at will.... playoffs are mostly about defense and matchups -- the team playing the best defense and with the most exploitable matchups usually wins. Lakers have both in their favor against the Suns.
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post #112 of 668
5/8/10 at 1:21am
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
Your boys are indeed looking good, and I especially admire the team's political stance --but I stand by the Spurs. A 2-0 lead is nothing.
What about a 3-0 lead?
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post #113 of 668
5/8/10 at 1:27am
Dragic will break you!
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post #114 of 668
5/8/10 at 2:51am
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Originally Posted by A-Pathetic View Post
What about a 3-0 lead?
The dream is over.

Between the Spurs and the Celtics, it was a tough night.
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post #115 of 668
5/8/10 at 3:55am
Exactly how old does a team have to be before you'll consider them title contenders?

Spurs looked every day of their age there... what a feeble fourth quarter. Parker, do something! He was just stading around. Dragic was doing what Parker should have been doing. Insane.
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post #116 of 668
5/8/10 at 4:21am
It feels like the NBA play-offs have been going on for a month already. How the fuck are they only in the second round?
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post #117 of 668
5/8/10 at 6:05am
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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
Dragic will break you!
Hell yes!

I don't know if this is the start of something, or just one of those nights...but it was a blast seeing the kid bitchslap the blindsided Spurs.

I can't recall the last time a bench player came out of nowhere like that in the playoffs to just take over a game. Great stuff!
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post #118 of 668
5/8/10 at 7:12am
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Originally Posted by Overlord View Post
It feels like the NBA play-offs have been going on for a month already. How the fuck are they only in the second round?
The first round is so spread out in order to get all the games into prime time. You could easily have four games a night, but the networks want their double-headers, so you have two nights between games without any travel.
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post #119 of 668
5/8/10 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by TheCynic View Post
Exactly how old does a team have to be before you'll consider them title contenders?

Spurs looked every day of their age there... what a feeble fourth quarter. Parker, do something! He was just stading around. Dragic was doing what Parker should have been doing. Insane.
I do favor the veteran teams. That can be heart-breaking. (goes all the way back to Moses on the Hawks) The worst was the late 90s Rockets. Each year after Barkley joined the team, I was convinced that it was their year again, and we'd get a match up with the Bulls. Alas, something, usually the Jazz, always got in the way. When they got Pippen for 99, i was super excited; convinced the final hurdle would now be overcome. Unfortunately, by that point, Dream had lost the fire--not unlike what u said about KG this year--and they got smoked by the Lakers, with of the HOF trio, only Barkley playing with any passion (despite what Pippen later charged).

The Celtics game was frustrating in the same way. They had a chance to take control of the whole series, but, Rondo aside, the team was almost lackadaisical. (granted bad officiating played a part in deflating the energy, but that shouldn't be an excuse) They have the offensive guns, but aren't attacking; standing around and erring on the side of over-passing. I don't know what is going on with Paul Pierce. I expected big things. I thought he would feed on the hate. However, instead of putting the team on his back and taking the fight to James/ the Cavs, he seems to be running away from the stage.
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post #120 of 668
5/8/10 at 3:24pm
Orlando will all but finish off the Hawks tonight. Maybe we can get deeper and a defense to actually contend with the big three.
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post #121 of 668
5/8/10 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
Hell yes!

I don't know if this is the start of something, or just one of those nights...but it was a blast seeing the kid bitchslap the blindsided Spurs.

I can't recall the last time a bench player came out of nowhere like that in the playoffs to just take over a game. Great stuff!
I've seen him plenty this season, and he's good and he's got lots of upside but that was playing WAY above his head. Hell, that was just about playing over anybody's head. That was a bench player putting in a superstar half, and hot hand barely does it justice. He could play 10 years and never have a half like that again, easily.
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post #122 of 668
5/8/10 at 7:28pm
Wonder if Joe Johnson is losing some money in this playoffs?

Rather see Orlano than Bos or Clev.
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post #123 of 668
5/8/10 at 7:56pm
Is there going to be anybody at Game 4 in Atlanta?
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post #124 of 668
5/9/10 at 2:20am
Great finish to that Laker-Jazz game. Both the Lakers and Suns are on the verge of a 4-0 sweep. Can't remember the last time that happened. Should be a very interesting Western Conference Finals.
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post #125 of 668
5/9/10 at 5:58am
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Originally Posted by A-Pathetic View Post
I've seen him plenty this season, and he's good and he's got lots of upside but that was playing WAY above his head. Hell, that was just about playing over anybody's head. That was a bench player putting in a superstar half, and hot hand barely does it justice. He could play 10 years and never have a half like that again, easily.
Hater.

*kidding*

Yeah, I don't expect him to average 92 points a game from here on out, but this could, hopefully, be his coming out party and get him contributing more down the line.
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post #126 of 668
5/9/10 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
Wonder if Joe Johnson is losing some money in this playoffs?
The consensus around these parts is good riddance, which would have been unthinkable at the start of the season.

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Is there going to be anybody at Game 4 in Atlanta?
Are you talking about the team or the fans? The team hasn't showed up since game 2 of the Bucks series.
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post #127 of 668
5/9/10 at 2:02pm
My feeling is this:

-Because my hockey and football teams are successful, it's balanced out by how bad the Hawks are in the post-season.
-This is essentially the pre-pre-season for the Hawks.
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post #128 of 668
5/9/10 at 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
Wonder if Joe Johnson is losing some money in this playoffs?
I reaaaally hope the Bulls look elsewhere this free agency (Chris Bosh please).
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post #129 of 668
5/9/10 at 7:45pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
The first round is so spread out in order to get all the games into prime time. You could easily have four games a night, but the networks want their double-headers, so you have two nights between games without any travel.
This has annoyed me to no end for years. I figured once the league went to the best of seven format, they'd go every other night like the NHL. After all, with three networks splitting coverage, you can't tell me that still wouldn't work.

I long for the days of network tripleheaders, actually. Or perhaps it's just an irrational love of Roundball Rock. Either way, ABC is really infrequent in their coverage, especially in comparison to NBC. (I'm fairly sure that's just nostalgia talking, though.)

Anyway, the Celtics aren't dead yet. Kind of. Well, at least there's a pulse.
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post #130 of 668
5/9/10 at 8:07pm
Yeah, wouldn't NBC do like a noon, 4:00 and prime time game on weekends sometimes?
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post #131 of 668
5/9/10 at 11:59pm
A lot of so called "analysts" eating crow saying the Spurs would take care of business against the Suns.

A whole week off before the Lakers and Suns start the Western Conference Finals. Jesus, the playoffs seem to last longer than the actual season.
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post #132 of 668
5/10/10 at 5:46am
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The Celtics/Cavs game was very exciting; maybe best of the play-offs. Celts played awesome. So much intensity, so much energy, and when they needed a big play, they made it. Rondo was simply amazing. Wow! But each of the Big 3, even Paul Pierce, contributed down the stretch, refusing to die after James led a comeback and pulled even.

The rest of the series should be very fun to see. If Paul Pierce comes alive, I think they can take it.

As for the Joe Johnson backlash...shit like this is why I hate Sports Talk culture. Is he having a bad play-offs? Yes. Does that mean you toss out one of the top dozen playes in the league and your foundation because of it? Hell, no. He's the reason the Hawks have turned around as much as they have.
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post #133 of 668
5/10/10 at 6:12am
Spurs had a horrible game plan: You need to take out BOTH of Nash's eyes.
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post #134 of 668
5/10/10 at 6:43am
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Yeah, wouldn't NBC do like a noon, 4:00 and prime time game on weekends sometimes?
Occasionally, but looking at the Wikipedia page, their numbers seriously nosedived after Jordan retired in 1998. NBC just didn't feel like paying inflated rights fees and losing scads of money anymore, which led to them going in on the XFL. Whoops.
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post #135 of 668
5/10/10 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by History Buff View Post
A lot of so called "analysts" eating crow saying the Spurs would take care of business against the Suns.
It's going to be a nice week...
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post #136 of 668
5/10/10 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by History Buff View Post
A whole week off before the Lakers and Suns start the Western Conference Finals. Jesus, the playoffs seem to last longer than the actual season.
Well, they have to start the conference finals and the league final on a set date, or else ABC won't be able to tell people when to start watching. They're pretty much scheduling for the benefit of television now.
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post #137 of 668
5/10/10 at 11:01am
Go Phoenix Go! I have a deep hatred for the Spurs.
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post #138 of 668
5/10/10 at 11:07am
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Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
Spurs had a horrible game plan: You need to take out BOTH of Nash's eyes.
Fortunately, God saw fit to give him a spare.

If I were playing in the NBA and had my choice of point guards, I'd take Nash first and Rondo second. Williams, Paul, and Rose may be better scorers, but Nash and Rondo seem to make those around them better.
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post #139 of 668
5/10/10 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by Anakin's Dad View Post
Fortunately, God saw fit to give him a spare.

If I were playing in the NBA and had my choice of point guards, I'd take Nash first and Rondo second. Williams, Paul, and Rose may be better scorers, but Nash and Rondo seem to make those around them better.
And don't forget, the Suns drafted Rondo. Sigh.
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post #140 of 668
5/11/10 at 10:28pm
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Celtics, So Far, So Good... So What!
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post #141 of 668
5/11/10 at 10:55pm
Lebron is playing like ledogshit. MVP my ass!
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post #142 of 668
5/11/10 at 10:55pm
Kinda shocking the Celts are winning so big. MJ would never let that happen.
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post #143 of 668
5/11/10 at 10:55pm
Rondo is looking so much like Magic Johnson in this series he should get an AIDS test just to be on the safe side. What a performance.

And if Stan Van Gundy were coaching the Cavs, this wouldn't be that close a series. Mike Brown needs to be fired.
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post #144 of 668
5/11/10 at 10:58pm
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
Kinda shocking the Celts are winning so big. MJ would never let that happen.
MJ did let that happen.
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post #145 of 668
5/11/10 at 11:09pm
Lebron just doesn't look like he wants it that badly.
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post #146 of 668
5/11/10 at 11:21pm
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Originally Posted by Rando View Post
Lebron just doesn't look like he wants it that badly.
Like maybe he wants an excuse to leave Cleveland?
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post #147 of 668
5/11/10 at 11:23pm
As someone that watched Kobe since his first shot as a pro, I can understand his plight -- he's done it his way the whole time, and he has no reason to believe that he can't do whatever the hell he wants including shooting a bunch of fade away threes and taking people 2 or 3 on 1. But as with Kobe, he'll get the praise as well as the blame. Especially for a performance like this.

Kudos to Doc Rivers, who frankly is not a good coach... he is outcoaching the hell out of Mike Brown. It's embarrassing, if I were Mike Brown I would be very embarrassed.

I'll put money on the line that the Celts still won't get by the Magic.
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post #148 of 668
5/11/10 at 11:24pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Like maybe he wants an excuse to leave Cleveland?
Probably. I just hope the media calls him out on it if that's how this goes down.
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post #149 of 668
5/11/10 at 11:31pm
I don't remember the last time I saw a #1 seed play so awful in a game 5. Complete domination by the Celts. Also, great officiating tonight.
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post #150 of 668
5/11/10 at 11:47pm
lol Cavs.

if the Celts really pull this off, I will freak out.

I hate Boston sports, but they're nothing to Cleveland sports.
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