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Shaq & Jamison were great moves, Anya. They just didn't work out. That's the way it goes sometimes.
post #252 of 668
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Originally Posted by bob loblaw View Post
There will be pressure on Lebron wherever he goes, but can you imagine the pressure if he went to Chicago? There would be absolutely no excuses, he would be expected to win it all every single year no matter what kind of teams the Lakers, Celtics or Magic have. And every year he doesn't win it would only serve remind everybody that he is "no Jordan".
Jordan isn't the god he once was in Chicago. And no matter where Lebron goes he'll never live up to Jordan anyway.

And if Lebron goes to NY with another star hey will be expected to win right away. If anything there would be less pressure in Chicago. More media than Cleveland, much less than NY. You can't get away with anything with the NY media. Look at ARod. The Chicago media doesn't follow it's players like that.

That being said with Chicago's luck Wade will stay in Miami, LeBron in Cleveland, Bosh follows one of them, and the Bulls will end up with Joe Johnson and Boozer.

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Shaq & Jamison were great moves, Anya. They just didn't work out. That's the way it goes sometimes.
Shaq is way past his prime and while Jamison can still score he can't play defense at all.
post #253 of 668
When the camera showed LeBron storm back into the locker room, I was halfway surprised that D'Antoni wasn't standing at his locker waiting for him with his arms full of gifts.
post #254 of 668
At least LeBron stuck around and congratulated the other team this year.
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Isn't he pretty much dealing with that already?
Not really. There have always been excuses during his time in Cleveland (bad coach, not enough talent surrounding him). I'm not saying I agree with that, but those have been the excuses.

In Chicago, he would get a top PG (Rose), a top dirty work player (Noah), and other good complementary pieces (Deng, Gibson). He would also get his choice of coach (Calipari?, Brown?, P. Jackson?). So all the excuses would be out the window. But again, everybody will be comparing his results to MJ.

In NY, the pressure will still be great but NY is still a work in progress. Even if Bosh comes you still have multiple holes to fill. Plus taking a doormat franchise like the Knicks to, say, a top 4 seed in the east would be significant enough improvement initially to quiet his critics. Yes, he would have to win it all eventually, but I think he would be given more time in NY than Chicago.

Personally, I think having Rose and Lebron would be a bit redundant. Both guys are great, but both need to have the ball in their hands to be super effective and neither really shoot the 3 that well. They kind of do the same things. I think Lebron needs to be surrounded with an athletic back-to-the basket big man (which he has never really had) and a bunch of shooters. That's why I think Bosh and Lebron are a package deal. I can see Lebron ball handling with Bosh in the post and guys like Gallinari and Eddie House on the wings...
post #256 of 668
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
I know it makes perfect sense. I said as much. I'm a Bulls fan. I'm not really a LeBron fan. I'd rather win without him.
Well how do you feel about him joining now that you've thought about it for five minutes and realize you're not going to win without him?
post #257 of 668
CNNSI is reporting Brown is out.

That didn't take long.
post #258 of 668
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
I don't think they'll get involved, but it's not like the Magic have anybody irreplaceable at small forward. Nothing against Matt Barnes, but trotting out Nelson-Carter-Howard-James-Lewis every night would be a scary proposition. But with all the money tied up in Howard, Lewis and Carter, there's no way we even sniff at James.
LOL obviously.

Although you could sign and trade for Lewis and someone else if LeBron wanted it to happen.
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On a side note, is just me, or is LeBron the oldest-looking 25-year old in the world?
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CNNSI is reporting Brown is out.

That didn't take long.
CBS Sports is reporting that Woodson is out in Atlanta as well.
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
On a side note, is just me, or is LeBron the oldest-looking 25-year old in the world?
See: Oden, Greg.
post #262 of 668
I think LeBron should stay, he's not going to be any closer to winning by going anywhere else in the league, unless Cleveland does a sign and trade with the lakers or the magic.
post #263 of 668
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt View Post
CNNSI is reporting Brown is out.

That didn't take long.
Didn't take long? I'm surprised that it didn't happen DURING last night's game.

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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
CBS Sports is reporting that Woodson is out in Atlanta as well.
I wonder if anybody is going to survive on the Hawks after that playoff performance.
post #264 of 668
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Originally Posted by TheCynic View Post
I think LeBron should stay, he's not going to be any closer to winning by going anywhere else in the league, unless Cleveland does a sign and trade with the lakers or the magic.
That's where I'm at. Unless he can go somewhere with a ready-made group waiting for him -- and has enough cap space for a max contract -- he won't win anywhere else, either.
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Well how do you feel about him joining now that you've thought about it for five minutes and realize you're not going to win without him?
You're right. LeBron is the only guy capable of winning titles. And the Bulls are incapable of adding Bosh, or Amare, or Wade, or Boozer, or Carmelo next year, or...
post #266 of 668
Maybe I've been reading too much Simmons but Lebron to the Clippers would be crazay.
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt View Post
CNNSI is reporting Brown is out.
Not quite yet...
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Yeah, I was just coming in here to issue a correction.
post #269 of 668
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
You're right. LeBron is the only guy capable of winning titles. And the Bulls are incapable of adding Bosh, or Amare, or Wade, or Boozer, or Carmelo next year, or...
.... or you could get a guy that's better than all of those guys. Still don't get it.

At any rate, I don't see over half those guys added to the Bulls getting by the Magic anyways. Barring injury of course.
post #270 of 668
What's there to get? Fandom is not rational. I am not a big LeBron fan. The whole point of my initial post was to say that although I realize LeBron would be best for the Bulls, part of me doesn't want him on the team. (Though I'd get over it when they started winning.)
post #271 of 668
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
What's there to get? Fandom is not rational. I am not a big LeBron fan. The whole point of my initial post was to say that although I realize LeBron would be best for the Bulls, part of me doesn't want him on the team. (Though I'd get over it when they started winning.)
I get that. I hated Danny Ainge's guts. He was probably my least favorite player in the NBA. Then he joined the Suns and everything I hated about him became a positive because it was for my team. Then he threw an inbounds pass that beaned Mario Elie in the face and pretended it was an accident as the Rockets eliminated the Suns in the playoffs and he forever earned a special place in my heart.
post #272 of 668
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I get that. I hated Danny Ainge's guts. He was probably my least favorite player in the NBA. Then he joined the Suns and everything I hated about him became a positive because it was for my team. Then he threw an inbounds pass that beaned Mario Elie in the face and pretended it was an accident as the Rockets eliminated the Suns in the playoffs and he forever earned a special place in my heart.
Ah....good times...Sort of. Long Range Ainge was always one of my favorites. Especially his "who...me?" look for fouls.
post #273 of 668
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At this point, is it a given that James is better than Wade? I've been saying it for a while, but i don't think so.
post #274 of 668
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Originally Posted by Joe View Post
The Celtics have two big expiring contracts in Pierce and Allen, don't they? Maybe that's what James was whispering to them after the loss last night..."I'm coming to Boston!".
He wants to wear no. 6 next year. Not gonna fly here.

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Am I the only one who sees this as ridiculous--a crazy-wild swing of emotional opinions?
No, you're right. I think there is a point to be made that the Cavs made themselves look like a team that just couldn't get it done. But, a lot of that had to do with the fact that the C's are a REALLY good defensive team that played like a hungry, cohesive unit. and also because apparently Rondo kicked Lebron in the face at some point

But if Lebron stays, I'm not going to be any less scared of the cavs next playoffs as I was coming into this one.
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Not a good enough excuse, though!
post #277 of 668
I still will never understand how a point guard that can't fucking shoot a jump shot can kill you for a near triple double every game. Terrible coaching and terrible defense.
post #278 of 668
James will never win here in Cleveland. The city is cursed and it will forever be.
post #279 of 668
Take it for what it's worth
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Boston Celtics fans were chanting "New York Knicks" during Thursday's Game 6 every time that LeBron James went to the foul line. Maybe they should've been chanting "Chicago Bulls."

Within minutes of the Cleveland Cavaliers' elimination at the hands of the Celtics, the speculation about LeBron James' next destination resumed in full force.

In the space of five minutes I heard from three NBA GMs via text, e-mail and phone. All three said that based on the information they have, they believe LeBron will leave the Cavs.

More surprisingly, all of them said they believe the destination will be the Chicago Bulls. Two said they believe that John Calipari will be the Bulls' new head coach.

One GM went a bit further in a phone call a few minutes later. "I think the Bulls are really going to go for it. Look for them to offer the Cavs Luol Deng in a sign-and-trade for LeBron. That will allow them to retain most of their cap space. Then they'll go after Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh as well."

I'm sure we'll hear various scenarios involving the Knicks, Nets and Heat over the course of the next month. But it's hard to come up with any other scenario that would be quite as appealing for LeBron.
I heard one of those GM's was Danny Ferry
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James will never win here in Cleveland. The city is cursed and it will forever be.
What about the Cubs? To me, their the ultimate cursed team.
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post #282 of 668
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What about the Cubs? To me, their the ultimate cursed team.
The Cubs are just one team. Chicago has the Jordan years and the White Sox winning the series a few years ago. The entire city of Cleveland is fucked from a sports perspective.
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He carries the ball as much as Kobe travels.
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt View Post
He carries the ball as much as Kobe travels.
I know. It's lame. It's Phil. Zen hangs head.
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I believe Nash's proper response should be:

"You mean like Jordan and Kobe carried Phil?"
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I believe Nash's proper response should be:

"You mean like Jordan and Kobe carried Phil?"
post #287 of 668
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Good luck, Suns.

I got my Walter Davis jersey out in support.
post #288 of 668
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
I think that if James comes back to the Cavs, they'll be more dangerous than ever. He'll be on a personal mission, and the whole team will have something to prove. Just get the King a new Coach.
The Cavs - LeBron barely win 10 games. They are beyond terrible. LeBron needs his Pippen (remember the '94 Bulls almost making it to the Finals without Jordan??).
post #289 of 668
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What about the Cubs? To me, their the ultimate cursed team.
I'll put 100 dollars down that no Cleveland sports team will win any championship title before the Cubs do.
post #290 of 668
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Originally Posted by Joe View Post
The Cavs - LeBron barely win 10 games. They are beyond terrible. LeBron needs his Pippen (remember the '94 Bulls almost making it to the Finals without Jordan??).
Not sure exactly what you're trying to say.

With or without James, the Cavs win more than 10 games.

I agree 94 was as good as Pippen ever got. <With the unfortunate exception of the Kukoc game> The Bulls got screwed out of the Finals by one of the worst calls I've ever seen.
post #291 of 668
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Originally Posted by Pompoussory Estoppel View Post
I'll put 100 dollars down that no Cleveland sports team will win any championship title before the Cubs do.
You're probably right. Then again, the Browns did draft Colt McCoy, he could turn out to be good. If the Saints, a laughing stock for decades, can win a SB why not the Browns.
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You're probably right. Then again, the Browns did draft Colt McCoy, he could turn out to be good. If the Saints, a laughing stock for decades, can win a SB why not the Browns.
If there's any team that can mishandle a QB, it's the Browns.

Plus, the Saints have talent.
post #293 of 668
Boy do I want the Magic to just step up and smack the Celtics in the mouth today.
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
Not sure exactly what you're trying to say.

With or without James, the Cavs win more than 10 games.
You said that if James goes back to Cavs, that they'd be more dangerous than ever. LeBron's supporting cast is garbage. If he goes back, they'd be no more dangerous than they are now. Which isn't very dangerous.

ETA: For proof, just check out Cleveland's last four regular-season games this year. Add the two other games LeBron didn't play, and the Cavs went 1-5 when James didn't play. That's about a 13-69 record.
post #295 of 668
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Boy do I want the Magic to just step up and smack the Celtics in the mouth today.
We may never see the kind of superstar KG is again; the kind that lives and breathes the game, and leaves everything all out on the floor. He's the last of the Mohicans.

Orlando fans aside, if you love the game, you root for the Celtics in this series.
post #296 of 668
Why? Because the Magic are a bunch of slackers who don't love the game too?
post #297 of 668
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Orlando fans aside, if you love the game, you root for the Celtics in this series.
Dude, I'm a Celtics fan, and even I'm scratching my head at this.
post #298 of 668
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Orlando fans aside, if you love the game, you root for the Celtics in this series.
I'd just as soon root for basketball, since this is going to be a fucking great series.
post #299 of 668
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Originally Posted by Farsight View Post
I believe Nash's proper response should be:

"You mean like Jordan and Kobe carried Phil?"
A response of that caliber should shut Jackson up, like, forever.
post #300 of 668
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Perhaps a bit of hyperbole, but that's the way I feel. The way the team plays, and the passion of KG, is something you don't see so much any more. It's special. As a fan, I've been reminded of why I fell in love with the Game in the first place.

This playoff run is the last stand; a chance to leave a legendary legacy.

I'm rooting for that, not Vince Carter and Shawn Kemp redux.

(yes, I'm kidding on the last dig)
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