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RIP Lala.com. Cloud-based iTunes to replace it?

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http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/29/app...ala-on-may-31/

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Lala – where music will stop playing …

In a brief message that was just posted on the Lala.com website, Apple has announced that the service will be shut down on May 31st, 2010. Apple will not be accepting new users, and existing users will be able to log in only until the end of next month.

Does this mean we can start raising our hopes for iTunes in the cloud?

At the bottom of a Wall Street Journal piece published back in January 2010, the paper suggested that Apple was gearing up to launch iTunes.com as soon as this June, citing sources familiar with the matter.

For an extensive view on how far-reaching that could prove to be, check out this guest post by Michael Robertson, the former CEO of MP3.com, who laid out Apple’s cloud-based media strategy going forward.

An iTunes-in-the-cloud offering – which is basically what Lala’s value proposition boils down to – is the central part of such an endeavor. Late last year, we wrote about how a move to the cloud was inevitable for iTunes. With the imminent shutdown of Lala, it’s safe to assume something is brewing at Cupertino.

Will Apple be the first company to turn online music subscription services into a sizable business?

Perhaps Apple, which acquired Lala late last year, will be making an announcement at its Worldwide Developers Conference, which will be held June 7 in San Francisco.

Read more: http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/29/app...#ixzz0mbkjYfj9
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http://techcrunch.com/2010/01/19/app...a-is-critical/

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An upcoming major revision of iTunes will copy each user’s catalog to the net making it available from any browser or net connected ipod/touch/tablet. The Lala upload technology will be bundled into a future iTunes upgrade which will automatically be installed for the 100+ million itunes users with a simple “An upgrade is available…” notification dialog box. After installation iTunes will push in the background their entire media library to their personal mobile iTunes area. Once loaded, users will be able to navigate and play their music, videos and playlists from their personal URL using a browser based iTunes experience.

Apple will link the tens of millions of previously sold iPods, Touches, AppleTV and iTablets to mobile iTunes giving users seamless playback of their media from a wide range of Apple branded devices. Since media will be supplied from the user’s personal collection, Apple is freed from the hassles of device and region limitations. iTunes shoppers will be able to continue to buy music and movies as they can now with purchases still being downloaded, but once downloaded they will be automatically loaded to their mobile iTunes area for anywhere access. Again because users are in possession of the materials no new licenses are required from the record labels or publishers.

Read more: http://techcrunch.com/2010/01/19/app...#ixzz0mblgL8OI
I'm sad and hopeful at the same time. Maybe iTunes can morph into something I like instead of something that I, as a Mac user, merely tolerate.
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Originally Posted by Eyeball Kid

I'm sad and hopeful at the same time. Maybe iTunes can morph into something I like instead of something that I, as a Mac user, merely tolerate.
I hear ya. I'm a Mac user, too, and I tend to use iTunes more for the convenience than anything else.

I've been a Rhapsody subscriber since 2004. Can't see than changing anytime soon.
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Damn. Going to miss this if it doesn't get replaced by something comparable.
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Really love lala. I'm already bummed that I can't add new songs.
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Let me mention that Rhapsody was just spun off into its own company, and has reduced their premium subscription to $9.99 a month.

For that, not only do you get unlimited streaming of several million tracks, but you can download as many tracks/playlists as you want (well, up to about 2,300 individual tracks) to your portable mp3 player for free. You can "authorize" one portable player, and up to three computers, to play them. For $15 a month, you can add authorization for two more portable devices.

Of course, you can't burn them to CD or otherwise monkey with the DRM (well, maybe some of you could), but at ten bucks a month, I thought the unlimited streaming was already a good deal (I use it pretty much all day at work). On top of that, to be able to toss anything I want onto my portable player and take it with me at no additional cost is a nice bit of gravy.

You can also purchase tracks and albums outright with no DRM; their prices tend to be pretty competitive with Amazon's digital downloads.
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Offering up anything that ever came from RealNetworks as an alternative to iTunes is like saying "Man, that cold you have sucks. Try my gonorrhea!"

The only current subscription service I'd consider is Zune Pass, because at the end of every month, at least you own some music. Oh, and I guess eMusic, although that's a bit of a different animal.
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Interesting. I've used Rhapsody for years now (as I say, listening probably a good 5-6 hours a day), never had any issues (apart from one glitchy upgrade a couple years back), either with the streaming, my purchases, or my new subscription downloads. But I'm sure there's another side to that.
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After installation iTunes will push in the background their entire media library to their personal mobile iTunes area.
In case I have some CD ripped from a friend, what will it do with that data?
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Originally Posted by Jeb View Post
Interesting. I've used Rhapsody for years now (as I say, listening probably a good 5-6 hours a day), never had any issues (apart from one glitchy upgrade a couple years back), either with the streaming, my purchases, or my new subscription downloads. But I'm sure there's another side to that.
Ditto all of this.

The fact that you can integrate your own personal music library with the subscription service is a huge, huge plus.

Since I'm a Mac user (have only been for around a year and a half), it's also a treat that I don't have to run Windows. The web-based player that runs with Firefox (my preference) and Safari works wonderfully on its own.

But the real incentive for me with Rhapsody is the availability of all of this music I can listen to at anytime. I can't think of a better way to get a good feel of a new album before my wallet takes the plunge.

They've usually got some nice early exclusives, too.
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Originally Posted by Feral Akodon View Post
In case I have some CD ripped from a friend, what will it do with that data?
Well, that's one of the big questions, right? Once we move to a cloud-based model, there's potentially a lot less room for illegally-distributed music or, as we liked to call this in the old days, "sharing."

With convenience will come a considerable loss of flexibility (e.g., you just might get stuck having to get all of your music from the company with whom you set up an account), the displacement of ownership in favor of licensing*, and all kinds of stuff that favors Apple (and their competitors).

I liked that Lala wasn't too particular about which MP3s it would allow you to upload. I'm less convinced that iTunes will be as liberal with their policy, at least in the long-term.

* And if you think this isn't a big deal, just talk to anyone who's had to deal with academic databases - libraries spend unbelievable amounts of money on access to online-only scholarly journals through these databases, but, unlike in the old days of print resources, when the subscription runs out, many contracts stipulate that they lose all of that old content. Assuming iTunes uses the same model, it would be incredibly easy for them to maintain a monopoly indefinitely, because once you've amassed a collection of albums accessible only through your iTunes subscription, you're effectively hooked for life... unless you mind ditching all of that music you paid for.
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
Assuming iTunes uses the same model, it would be incredibly easy for them to maintain a monopoly indefinitely, because once you've amassed a collection of albums accessible only through your iTunes subscription, you're effectively hooked for life... unless you mind ditching all of that music you paid for.
Also known as the Kindle Conundrum.
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