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Well I never.

I find stuff like this fascinating personally.

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A 13th century skeleton unearthed on the grounds of a friary may be the earliest physical evidence that Africans lived in England in medieval times, a team of researchers said on Sunday.

Forensics experts at the University of Dundee Scotland say that the bones most likely belonged to a man from modern-day Tunisia who spent about a decade living in England before he died.

"I believe that this is the first physical evidence of Africans in medieval England," said Jim Bolton, a historian at Queen Mary, University of London who wasn't involved in the discovery.

"Finding a skeleton like this is of major interest," he said.

The man - who appears to have died of a spinal abscess - was identified as African by studying his skeleton and the historical record of the friary where he was buried.

"It's not just the skin tone, it's a question of bone structure," said Xanthe Mallett, an expert at the Centre for Anatomy and Human Identification in Dundee. She said the size of the nasal bone or the shape of the orbits differed depending on whether skeletons were European or African.

"You can have an idea of where somebody is from by looking at their skeletal features," she said.

Researchers were able to pin the man to Tunisia using isotope analysis, a technique that looks at the mix of elements that build up in a person's teeth, bones or other tissues. Since people from different areas tend to accumulate such elements in different ways, analysis of their remains can sometimes pinpoint where they grew up, where they lived or even their diet.

"Each area has a different isotopic signature," she said.

It's not clear how the man would have made his way from Tunisia to Ipswich, the southeast England town where his skeleton was unearthed in the 1990s. The BBC's History Cold Case program, which is publicising the finding, suggested that he may have been brought back during the Crusades, although Mallett and Bolton both hypothesised he could have conceivably come through Spain, parts of which were then under Muslim rule.
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Interesting. There's a lot of theoretical stuff about Africans living in England as far back as Roman times. There were definite trade routes to the North Coast of Africa back then, as evidenced by foodstuffs and spices found in burial sites, so it would make sense for their to be African Merchants as well as African Slaves/Servants working under the Romans. This of course was all theoretical until now.
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Interesting. There's a lot of theoretical stuff about Africans living in England as far back as Roman times. There were definite trade routes to the North Coast of Africa back then, as evidenced by foodstuffs and spices found in burial sites, so it would make sense for their to be African Merchants as well as African Slaves/Servants working under the Romans. This of course was all theoretical until now.
I thought it must have stood to reason there would have been people from all over the known world living in Britain during Roman times due to the Romans employing men from all over the empire to populate their legions.
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Interesting. There's a lot of theoretical stuff about Africans living in England as far back as Roman times. There were definite trade routes to the North Coast of Africa back then, as evidenced by foodstuffs and spices found in burial sites, so it would make sense for their to be African Merchants as well as African Slaves/Servants working under the Romans. This of course was all theoretical until now.

That's more ignorant than theoretical (no offense). Africa isn't all that far from Europe. The idea that there has been some absolute dividing line between the two continents, to only be crossed rarely, owes more to prejudice and a historical willingness to ignore evidence than the archaeological record.

I'm not going out of my way to present Herodotus' history of Greece (and believe me, I'm not anything like an expert) as established evidence of African influence on the European continent.
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I hope they also found extraordinary advanced shoes next to the skeleton:

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I'm guessing they arrived on a...



... which were invented long before Medieval times.
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Interestingly, archeologists have found a faded parchment entombed with the skeleton. After hours of painstaking reconstruction, they have determined the parchment bears the following imagery:
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Have you guys been saving up your incongruous black guys JPGs or something?
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Have you guys been saving up your incongruous black guys JPGs or something?
You haven't?
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Have you guys been saving up your incongruous black guys JPGs or something?
Well, with the Closer kicking about we figured they'd come in handy eventually.
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I guess this is a big deal because everyone figured that after Rome, there were no Africans in England.

Africans were definately in England under Rome. Emperor Septimius Severus was African; he died in England on his way to the northern border. There were African soldiers stationed at Hadrian's Wall.

Still, pretty neat.
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