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Although Of Course You End Up Becoming Yourself:A Road Trip With David Foster Wallace

post #1 of 11
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So, right when "Infinite Jest" hit and David Foster Wallace was doing his first book tour/was in the process of being anointed, Rolling Stone sent David Lipsky to interview him. Over five days, Lipsky traveled around with him to readings, Denny's, airports, etc., and they had a rolling, "My Dinner With Andre"-type conversation. Afterwards, Rolling Stone decided not to print it and Lipsky just kept the tapes. Following Wallace's suicide, Lipsky printed an excerpt in RS and then wrote this book.

Whether or not you're interested in "Infinite Jest" (it shows up in the background over and over as if it's the elephant everyone knows is there, gets referred to obliquely every so often to remind the participants that they're aware it's there, but then back to Michael Bay movies and trying to laid on book tours), it's a fascinating piece of work. Take a guy who has a deep, deep understanding of celebrity culture who suddenly becomes a celebrity himself and is so hyper-intelligent that he can't help but second-, third- and fourth-guessing his every move as he tries desperately to be the best version of the person he and the public want him to be with the coda that, of course, he committed suicide twelve years later still working on the same novel he'd been trying to complete since "Infinite Jest," "The Pale King" (which'll finally hit next year as "an incomplete novel").

Like a lot of bios published in the wash of a suicide, there's a real sense of "Now You Know Why He Did It" to this text, but I think there's a lot more here than that. I was left thinking that if Wallace had been born in the twenties or thirties, had been an active writer in the fifties, sixties or seventies, he might have made it and we'd have several more books, an Updike or, similarly tortured, a Cheever. But that intense pressure and self-awareness of his place in the culture magnified over those five days is absolutely insane and how hard he fights it, tries to make it seem that, in fact, he's not a careerist, etc., just shows how hard he was trying to make it work.

A great book that I can't stop thinking about. Perhaps, you would like it, too - especially those of you who have grown up with the publishing industry going through their years of super-anointing The Next Big Thing which seems to have started in the eighties with the overnight literary celebrity of several authors that just never lived up to the hype. Interestingly enough, there's a lot of "Exit Through the Gift Shop" in this miasma, too. A good companion piece to the Lipsky.
post #2 of 11
Thanks for the take on this, I've been meaning to pick it up.
post #3 of 11
Alright, so I caved and grabbed this today. Holy shit, that foreword/afterword. I kind of wish I could leave work and take the rest of the day to read this.
post #4 of 11
I'm glad to hear this is good. I've looked at it in the shop and haven't been sure if it's a real book or a cash in on the lit snob crowd.
post #5 of 11
About 80 pages in and it's way, way better than I expected. The guy was just consistently brilliant and the rapport between Lipsky and DFW is pretty solid. Making me self-conscious as hell about my own writing business, though.
post #6 of 11
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And it makes you really, really want to read that book of Nabakov's collected letters.
post #7 of 11
God, YES.
post #8 of 11
And done. I would have plowed through it faster but only had a few handfuls of time to read. Lots of brilliance from DFW, Lipsky gets less irritating as the book progresses, and overall it's just a great read for anyone into DFW or even just into writing, since it's an interesting glimpse into the behind-the-scenes part of what's most normally glorified.
post #9 of 11
It was an interesting look into Wallace's thought processes, and also to see him articulate his intentions for Infinite Jest.

But with Lipsky I wasn't sure how much of it was him, at the time of the interveiw, being deliberately obtuse to get a better story out of Wallace. Like when he's asking Wallace to explain his work, or why he does what he does. I didn't think Wallace was being evasive, I just think it's difficult for anyone to explain their work in a sound bite, especially for someone that writes the kind of stuff Wallace wrote.

It seemed to be half a character study of Lipsky, like with his stating that Wallace just had to one up his jokes all the time. Seems more of an insecure conclusion on Lipsky's part than Wallace having a need to outshine him when their goofing around. Sometimes someone in the group is just funnier.

I thought it was interesting he didn't call Wallace out for his well rehearsed answers at the end in his apartment. Lipsky was painting him as much more forthright at that point, but it seemed to me a lot of those answers were more blatant examples of Wallace feeding him a well worn story than when Lipsky called him out for it earlier on in the book.

It's definitely worth checking out to get a peek in Wallace's head.
post #10 of 11
There WAS an odd sort of antagonist/comrade relationship between Lipsky and DFW, but I do think that it was related to him being slightly deliberately obtuse. Plus there were a few moments in the subtext where Wallace or Lipskly alluded to the (slight) age difference between the two of them.
post #11 of 11
I'm pretty sure it was stated, IIRC, Wallace was 34 and Lipsky was 30.

What I mean about the antagonism is that when he asked Wallace to explain his writing Wallace, I thought, gave a complex answer that made sense and Lipsky treated it like he was shining him on, and I wasn't entirely sure if he just didn't get it, or if he was provoking him to get a rushed quip answer out of him that Rolling Stone would blow up to 36 point font for the article. I do agree with Lipsky's characterization that Wallace seemed to be always playing chess, but it seemed to me that Wallace just operates that way. He can't not consider the things he's going to say, or analyze those around him.
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