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post #51 of 73
5/19/10 at 1:30pm
Shia didn't say anything here to personally slog or slander anybody he worked with. He's not divulging on set fights or arguments, misconduct or other such secret or privileged information. He was talking about the film proper, and gave his opinion on how he didn't think it was everyone's best work, saving the harshest criticism for himself. Oh, that rascal, him.
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post #52 of 73
5/19/10 at 1:36pm
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Shia didn't say anything here to personally slog or slander anybody he worked with. He's not divulging on set fights or arguments, misconduct or other such secret or privileged information.
Sure he did. Have you heard Ford come out and say that he was not happy with the direction/concept of the film up to this point?

Ford may feel that way, but shouldn't Harrison be the one to come out and say it? Shouldn't Shia have respected Ford's privacy?
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post #53 of 73
5/19/10 at 1:40pm
It would be unprofessional to trash the movie at the time, while he was out promoting it. A certain amount of bullshitting goes along with your contract. But at this point, so long after the fact, the "statute of limitations" has run out I would think.
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post #54 of 73
5/19/10 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by RathBandu View Post
On one hand, it helps that he can at least admit when he fucked up as an actor.
Isn't this how Shia does everything these days? On one hand?
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post #55 of 73
5/19/10 at 1:53pm
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Sure he did. Have you heard Ford come out and say that he was not happy with the direction/concept of the film up to this point?

Ford may feel that way, but shouldn't Harrison be the one to come out and say it? Shouldn't Shia have respected Ford's privacy?
I've never heard Danny Glover come out and talk about how he only did Operation Dumbo Drop to buy a new boat, but Denis Leary went ahead and told us about it. That bastard!
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post #56 of 73
5/19/10 at 1:59pm
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I don't think he said anything out of line at all. I appreciate the honesty. At least he's saying something worth hearing while he's promoting his new film. Many of you are totally overreacting. Its folks like you that get us boring bullshit interviews all the time because everyone is afraid of the reaction they might get if they say something honest. Grow up.
Exactly.
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post #57 of 73
5/19/10 at 2:20pm
While I appreciate the apology for indy 4, its pretty unnessesary coming from Shia. I thought most of the problems with that movie started at the script level and by the time the actors arrived it was too late.

Also I have no problem with his comments. The overall tone was basically: We tried our best, it didn't work, I'm sorry. Its not like he called Speilberg a hack or said Ford sleepwalked through it all.
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post #58 of 73
5/19/10 at 4:05pm
I think Spielberg already commented on how he feels about Kingdom of the Crystal Skull with this featurette.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WBAi...eature=related

"I'm done, George."
"Aliens? No way!"
"No!"
"NO!"
"...ok."
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post #59 of 73
5/19/10 at 4:31pm
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Well, he brings up Harrison in the interview. So, how is that fair to Ford, who now has to have that spotlight on him for something he told Shia in confidence?
I dunno if Ford cares. In 2008, on Conan O'Brien, Conan asked Ford why he hadn't brought any clips for "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull". Ford replied "Well, to tell you the truth, it really isn't very good" in a serious tone of voice. He then went on as if he were only joking, saying that Spielberg wanted people to experience the movie raw and unspoiled. BUT HE DID PUT IT OUT THERE.

Shia, doing it ages later, doesn't seem so brave.
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post #60 of 73
5/19/10 at 4:44pm
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I think Spielberg already commented on how he feels about Kingdom of the Crystal Skull with this featurette.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WBAi...eature=related

"I'm done, George."
"Aliens? No way!"
"No!"
"NO!"
"...ok."
Yeah, the subtitle of that featurette should be: how to browbeat a Hollywood legend.
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post #61 of 73
5/19/10 at 5:00pm
http://www.tu.tv/videos/harrison-for...-conan-o-brien

Harrison's 2008 "Crystal Skull" promotion interview.
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post #62 of 73
5/19/10 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by Alan Resnick View Post
I dunno if Ford cares. In 2008, on Conan O'Brien, Conan asked Ford why he hadn't brought any clips for "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull". Ford replied "Well, to tell you the truth, it really isn't very good" in a serious tone of voice. He then went on as if he were only joking, saying that Spielberg wanted people to experience the movie raw and unspoiled. BUT HE DID PUT IT OUT THERE.

Shia, doing it ages later, doesn't seem so brave.
Arg! I was beaten to posting this story. Thats what I get for starting work late

I am not sure how brave Ford really was though, because he tried to cover up his remarks by pretending they were a joke. Shia flat out admited the movie shamed the IJ Legacy.
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post #63 of 73
5/19/10 at 9:32pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
Because it's Shia. He doesn't have the oeuvre of Clooney or Michael Caine or even Kevin fucking Smith. And because he was doing it to promote a movie that, by all accounts, is not only not good but an unnecessary sequel just like the movies he is bashing.

I think he's a talented guy and was definitely was a huge part of what made Transformers enjoyable for me, but this rubs me the wrong way.
Oh come on. Is his film career that much worse than, say Harrison Ford in the 70's-early 80's? Transformer's works because of Shia's presence (I'd say it's 70% FX, 20% Shia and 10% Megan Fox's bod). He's also the best part of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, holding his own with Harrison Ford (and I thought the two had a nice chemistry). Haven't seen Disturbia but people seem to like it.

So he's lucked into two mammoth blockbuster franchises. Now maybe he'll do some smaller, more serious roles.
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post #64 of 73
5/20/10 at 1:11am
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Oh come on. Is his film career that much worse than, say Harrison Ford in the 70's-early 80's? Transformer's works because of Shia's presence (I'd say it's 70% FX, 20% Shia and 10% Megan Fox's bod). He's also the best part of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, holding his own with Harrison Ford (and I thought the two had a nice chemistry). Haven't seen Disturbia but people seem to like it.

So he's lucked into two mammoth blockbuster franchises. Now maybe he'll do some smaller, more serious roles.
Are you saying he IS as good as Michael Caine or George Clooney? That he's done any work comparable to Ford's Han Solo?

I LIKE Shia, but he's not passed into that next level. And it's not hard to hold your own with Harrison Ford in a movie where Harrison Ford doesn't give a shit about what he's doing.
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post #65 of 73
5/20/10 at 1:25am
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I dunno if Ford cares. In 2008, on Conan O'Brien, Conan asked Ford why he hadn't brought any clips for "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull". Ford replied "Well, to tell you the truth, it really isn't very good" in a serious tone of voice. He then went on as if he were only joking, saying that Spielberg wanted people to experience the movie raw and unspoiled. BUT HE DID PUT IT OUT THERE.
He was joking. It was an obvious setup for him to do so. He even starts the interview by saying "I think it's good."

Or was he.......? *cue echo effect*



ETA: I had forgotten how much fun cranky Ford on Conan was.
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post #66 of 73
5/20/10 at 3:41am
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Transformer's works because of Shia's presence (I'd say it's 70% FX, 20% Shia and 10% Megan Fox's bod).
10% of that equation just left town.
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post #67 of 73
5/20/10 at 3:52am
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He should start early and bash Transformers 3 now.
He already has. He said a week or two ago that he knows TF3 won't challenge him as an actor, but the kid in him knows he'll have some kind of fun anyways. That's kind of a backhanded compliment, really.

P.S. People "surprised" by Shia's candor should really read more magazine interviews with him, especially the two he's done for GQ.
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post #68 of 73
5/20/10 at 4:19am
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P.S. People "surprised" by Shia's candor should really read more magazine interviews with him, especially the two he's done for GQ.
Shia's Playboy interview was very memorable. It's interesting how Steven hangs out with him and Harrison will call him to offer encouragement at times, such as when Shia was in his accident and being grilled by the media. You get the sense that Shia is more than just a new passing fresh face to them. He admits to being overwhelmed and kinda treading the whirlwind of celebrity. You can see him still finding his way, obviously.
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post #69 of 73
5/20/10 at 5:24pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
Are you saying he IS as good as Michael Caine or George Clooney? That he's done any work comparable to Ford's Han Solo?

I LIKE Shia, but he's not passed into that next level. And it's not hard to hold your own with Harrison Ford in a movie where Harrison Ford doesn't give a shit about what he's doing.
I'm saying it's an Apples to Oranges comparison. What was Clooney doing at the same point in his film career? Batman & Robin! Michael Caine's appeared in roughly 5,000 films and is a character actor as well as a sometime leading man so that is also an unfair comparison.
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post #70 of 73
5/20/10 at 5:30pm
Shia is Adrian Zmed with a better agent. IMHO.
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post #71 of 73
5/20/10 at 6:21pm
Art Decade, Welcome to...CHUD.COM! Adrian Zmed had a less than stellar film career, but he was in...T.J. Hooker, the best cop series ever!
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post #72 of 73
5/20/10 at 7:33pm
Thanks, duke!
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post #73 of 73
5/20/10 at 7:36pm
Art Decade, You're welcome!
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