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post #1 of 40
5/20/10 at 11:22pm
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I thought this would be a good idea for thread consolidation.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/20/...-obama-effigy/

Seriously, Wisconsin?

And as bad as this particular instance is, the news report is downright irresponsible.
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post #2 of 40
5/20/10 at 11:27pm
Wisconsin is a horrible state. Even if you ignore things like the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Church--Michele Bachmann's church body--it's filled, especially near and in Milwaukee and Madison, with people who have some sick and twisted amalgam of Sarah Palin's views on Alaska and a New Yorker's view of New York.

Why? No idea. It's one of the coldest areas of the country and does absolutely nothing other states don't do and many of them do those things better.
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post #3 of 40
5/20/10 at 11:30pm
Maybe all that cheese has blocked the blood flow to their brains.
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post #4 of 40
5/20/10 at 11:34pm
What hath Brett Favre wrought?
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post #5 of 40
5/21/10 at 11:19am
eh, I'm not so sure I want to get too worked up condemning this.

If Sarah Palin ever gets elected, I shudder to think of the bizarre sigils/voodoo rituals that might get conducted in my yard.
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post #6 of 40
5/21/10 at 1:58pm
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Originally Posted by MikeI View Post
I thought this would be a good idea for thread consolidation.
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Sad that the board needed this thread, but it did. At least this way we don't need to start a million threads each time some racist scrawls a hateful threat
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post #7 of 40
5/21/10 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by MikeI View Post
I thought this would be a good idea for thread consolidation.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/20/...-obama-effigy/

Seriously, Wisconsin?

And as bad as this particular instance is, the news report is downright irresponsible.
I would like to apologize for the north-side rednecks that did this. My local news viewing experience was one long facepalm last night.

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Originally Posted by Cuchlain
Wisconsin is a horrible state. Even if you ignore things like the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Church--Michele Bachmann's church body--it's filled, especially near and in Milwaukee and Madison, with people who have some sick and twisted amalgam of Sarah Palin's views on Alaska and a New Yorker's view of New York.

Why? No idea. It's one of the coldest areas of the country and does absolutely nothing other states don't do and many of them do those things better.
Though this verges on incoherent, it's still pretty clear that you have no - and I mean zero - idea what you're talking about.
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post #8 of 40
5/21/10 at 2:25pm
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
Wisconsin is a horrible state. Even if you ignore things like the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Church--Michele Bachmann's church body--it's filled, especially near and in Milwaukee and Madison, with people who have some sick and twisted amalgam of Sarah Palin's views on Alaska and a New Yorker's view of New York.

Why? No idea. It's one of the coldest areas of the country and does absolutely nothing other states don't do and many of them do those things better.
Jesus Christ...nicely done with the hyperbolic bashing of an entire fucking state.
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post #9 of 40
5/21/10 at 2:26pm
Yeah, the Madison thing was a little weird. From everything I've heard from conservative people I know who live near/in Madison, they think it's the closest thing to Hell on Earth next to San Francisco.
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post #10 of 40
5/21/10 at 2:30pm
Goddamn, how I LOVE San Francisco.
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post #11 of 40
5/21/10 at 2:48pm
Madison is to Wisconsin as Austin is to Texas. And I've never noticed a fervent love for Milwaukee in its citizens lording it over all other cities in all of the years I've lived here.
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post #12 of 40
5/21/10 at 2:56pm
I do love my city. But I recognize its limitations - it's poor and a hair confused about what to do next, what with the death of blue-collar industry in this country. I think most of us who live here and give it some thought are of a similar mind.

And, yes, Jake, Madison strikes fear into the hearts of conservatives in its blast radius. It's glorious. I also love Madison - did my undergrad there.
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post #13 of 40
5/21/10 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by MissZooey View Post
And, yes, Jake, Madison strikes fear into the hearts of conservatives in its blast radius. It's glorious. I also love Madison - did my undergrad there.
One of the dumbest, most unabashedly racist redneck pricks I've ever known in my entire life moved there to marry a (LIBERAL! WHAT THE HELL) girl he met over the internet.

So I love the city just based on the fact that it's already probably given this hateful fuckwad a bleeding ulcer from everything that he's likely been exposed to during his year or so there. If she hasn't killed him already.

And I guess it's alright since you and Sir Dave are in that neck of the woods, too.
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post #14 of 40
5/21/10 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
One of the dumbest, most unabashedly racist redneck pricks I've ever known in my entire life moved there to marry a (LIBERAL! WHAT THE HELL) girl he met over the internet.

So I love the city just based on the fact that it's already probably given this hateful fuckwad a bleeding ulcer from everything that he's likely been exposed to during his year or so there. If she hasn't killed him already.

And I guess it's alright since you and Sir Dave are in that neck of the woods, too.
Why would you marry a racist? Did she know he was a racist?
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post #15 of 40
5/21/10 at 3:15pm
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Yeah, the Madison thing was a little weird. From everything I've heard from conservative people I know who live near/in Madison, they think it's the closest thing to Hell on Earth next to San Francisco.
I didn't say it was illiberal, I said it was filled with assholes who suffer from an inflated view of the worth of the city and its culture. UW-Madison grads are some of the most fucking insufferable people I've met in this regard. To them, no school or city has the kind of liberal track record Madison does. Berkeley and Stanford may be fine schools, but they're not as close to being a "non-Ivy Ivy" as UW Madison. There is no better beer than Spotted Cow. They're like Al-Qaeda members from the Midwest in that they believe that the only things of worth in the world are made by Wisconsinite hands.
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post #16 of 40
5/21/10 at 3:25pm
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
I didn't say it was illiberal, I said it was filled with assholes who suffer from an inflated view of the worth of the city and its culture. UW-Madison grads are some of the most fucking insufferable people I've met in this regard. To them, no school or city has the kind of liberal track record Madison does. Berkeley and Stanford may be fine schools, but they're not as close to being a "non-Ivy Ivy" as UW Madison. There is no better beer than Spotted Cow. They're like Al-Qaeda members from the Midwest in that they believe that the only things of worth in the world are made by Wisconsinite hands.
Dude, seriously. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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post #17 of 40
5/21/10 at 3:29pm
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Dude, seriously. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Did WaywardWoman turn him down or something?
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post #18 of 40
5/21/10 at 3:34pm
I haven't even got in the William F. Buckley-like fake WASP vocal affects some of these fuckers sport. There are some places people can't stand. For me, Wisconsin is one of those places.
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post #19 of 40
5/21/10 at 3:45pm
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
I haven't even got in the William F. Buckley-like fake WASP vocal affects some of these fuckers sport. There are some places people can't stand. For me, Wisconsin is one of those places.
I live an hour-and-a-half away from Madison and know countless Madison graduates. I have never, in all the years I've been living here, heard any of them sporting this accent. Either you've stumbled upon a bizarre, anomalous pocket of Madison grads or you're talking out of your ass.

Besides, even if this strange sect of weirdly-accented Madison grads does exist, they're probably liberal, so I'm not sure what they have to do with this thread.
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post #20 of 40
5/21/10 at 4:26pm
Okay, we need to come up with a good scientific name for Madison-phobia.
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post #21 of 40
5/21/10 at 4:51pm
"Rectophobia" is already on the books.
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post #22 of 40
5/21/10 at 5:24pm
Whatever the actual name for "fear of ice cream" is?
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post #23 of 40
5/21/10 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by joeypants View Post
eh, I'm not so sure I want to get too worked up condemning this.

If Sarah Palin ever gets elected, I shudder to think of the bizarre sigils/voodoo rituals that might get conducted in my yard.
Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
Sad that the board needed this thread, but it did. At least this way we don't need to start a million threads each time some racist scrawls a hateful threat
First off, a death threat against any person, political leader, or president is despicable. But I'm not sure this instance qualifies. Burning a leader in effigy, while not something I would ever think of doing, is kind of a time-honored form of protest dating back hundreds of years. Secondly, a thread like this could have been made at any time since the existence of message boards, concerning any president and had as much relevance as it does now. Every president gets death threats and every president gets burned in effigy. Unfortunately, it seems to come with the job.

I don't see a problem with having this thread to document and discuss the stupidity of people doing this now against Obama. But I wouldn't exactly go so far as to say the boards "needed this thread" either. It's not like threats against Obama are up over what they were with Bush or Clinton.
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post #24 of 40
5/21/10 at 5:50pm
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First off, a death threat against any person, political leader, or president is despicable. But I'm not sure this instance qualifies. Burning a leader in effigy, while not something I would ever think of doing, is kind of a time-honored form of protest dating back hundreds of years. Secondly, a thread like this could have been made at any time since the existence of message boards, concerning any president and had as much relevance as it does now. Every president gets death threats and every president gets burned in effigy. Unfortunately, it seems to come with the job.


How often has it happened in a bar in America? Plus he had duct tape wrapped around his neck.

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I don't see a problem with having this thread to document and discuss the stupidity of people doing this now against Obama. But I wouldn't exactly go so far as to say the boards "needed this thread" either. It's not like threats against Obama are up over what they were with Bush or Clinton.
Are you joking? Yes, it's exactly like that. Obama has received more threats in his 1.5 years than Bush got in 8.
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post #25 of 40
5/21/10 at 5:56pm
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How often has it happened in a bar in America? Plus he had duct tape wrapped around his neck.



Are you joking? Yes, it's exactly like that. Obama has received more threats in his 1.5 years than Bush got in 8.
Is there something about a bar that makes the act scarier? And maybe the duct tape was necessary to hold the head on. Make it a noose and you might have a point.

And regarding the number of death threats, I think I'll take the word of the US Secret Service Director over whatever HuffPo blog you got your info from.

Secret Service Threat level against Obama no greater than under Bush, Clinton.

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From December 03, 2009

Bit of a bombshell at this morning's Homeland Security Committee hearing:

U.S. Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan dismissed published reports that the level of death threats against President Obama are four times greater than typical threat levels against recent presidents — claiming the current volume of threats is comparable to that under George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

"It's not [a] 400 percent [increase]," Sullivan said during a heated exchange with Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), who suggested the service needed additional agents to protect the first African-American president.

"I'm not sure where that number comes from," he said, adding that the number of threats against Obama "are the same level as it has been [against] the last two presidents."

Sullivan said he would get more specific in a closed-door session with members of the Homeland Security Committee.
There's even video included if you want to watch the exchange.
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post #26 of 40
5/21/10 at 5:59pm
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Is there something about a bar that makes the act scarier? And maybe the duct tape was necessary to hold the head on. Make it a noose and you might have a point.
Yes, it's not a political protest but a bunch of drunk rednecks chuckling it up at the idea of our president being lynched. And yes, it was a mock lynching. He had tape around his neck and was set on fire. Lynching victims were often burned
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Originally Posted by jvc View Post
And regarding the number of death threats, I think I'll take the word of the US Secret Service Director over whatever HuffPo blog you got your info from.

Secret Service Threat level against Obama no greater than under Bush, Clinton.
I am at a loss to explain that as I've read numerous articles over the past two years that quote Government officials and SS agents as saying that Obama's death threats are far outpacing those of any other president ever.
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post #27 of 40
5/21/10 at 6:11pm
I have to agree with Kate a little here. If this was a group of protesters on the steps of the Wisconsin state capital, I'd be like "Yeah, I don't like it, but they have the right." This feels more like a bunch of Milwaukee's Best-fueled good ol' boyism run amok, with no greater political agenda behind it than "Burn the black president."
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post #28 of 40
5/21/10 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
Yes, it's not a political protest but a bunch of drunk rednecks chuckling it up at the idea of our president being lynched.
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
I have to agree with Kate a little here. If this was a group of protesters on the steps of the Wisconsin state capital, I'd be like "Yeah, I don't like it, but they have the right." This feels more like a bunch of Milwaukee's Best-fueled good ol' boyism run amok, with no greater political agenda behind it than "Burn the black president."
Yeah but the problem is their freedoms are freedoms regardless in this case. They chose to do it on private property and that is their right. It's not a matter of what it "feels" like or where it took place.

Fact is, it's disgusting to me to see anyone burn in effigy in a mocking matter. It was when it was Bush and it is now for Obama.
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post #29 of 40
5/21/10 at 6:41pm
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There's even video included if you want to watch the exchange.
I'd rather know the actual numbers he planned to disclose in the "closed-door meeting" in December of last year, frankly.
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post #30 of 40
5/21/10 at 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
Jesus Christ...nicely done with the hyperbolic bashing of an entire fucking state.

Well in fairness being stuck in Wisconsin was the whole reason Bartleby and Loki wanted to destroy the world.
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post #31 of 40
5/21/10 at 7:41pm
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Yeah but the problem is their freedoms are freedoms regardless in this case. They chose to do it on private property and that is their right. It's not a matter of what it "feels" like or where it took place.
It is, actually. Just because someone has the right to do something doesn't mean they aren't an asshole for doing it.


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Fact is, it's disgusting to me to see anyone burn in effigy in a mocking matter. It was when it was Bush and it is now for Obama.
Why was it disgusting to watch people protest in no uncertain terms the practices of the torturing scumbag Bush? That's a far cry from attacks against Obama, which are based on race, the fact he's not a Republican, or both.
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post #32 of 40
5/21/10 at 7:43pm
Yeah, I'm not denying they have the right to do this, I'm just not assigning any noble expression of valid political thought to it.
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post #33 of 40
5/21/10 at 7:50pm
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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post
It is, actually. Just because someone has the right to do something doesn't mean they aren't an asshole for doing it.

Why was it disgusting to watch people protest in no uncertain terms the practices of the torturing scumbag Bush? That's a far cry from attacks against Obama, which are based on race, the fact he's not a Republican, or both?
Point 1: Okay?.., I didn't say other otherwise.
Point 2: Because it's disgusting to me to burn any human being in mockery.

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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Yeah, I'm not denying they have the right to do this, I'm just not assigning any noble expression of valid political thought to it.
Yeah, I totally agree.
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post #34 of 40
5/21/10 at 8:14pm
This is officially going to become the new thread I'm afraid of opening. I just feel so dirty whenever I see one of those disgusting, hateful (and usually misspelled) effigies and signs.

On a side note, there is a new site called youropenbook.org which allows you to view Facebook users' statuses (Thanks new privacy policy!) Anyway, if you type in "Nobama" or Obama or anything related, you'll get a slew of backwards, confusing, venomous views from all over America!
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post #35 of 40
5/24/10 at 3:04am
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
"Rectophobia" is already on the books.
You've been extra grumpy lately.
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post #36 of 40
5/24/10 at 3:27am
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post
You've been extra grumpy lately.
Yeah, in general, there are a lot of things going on. Cancer recurrence, my mother's dying, and so forth. This is outside of that, though. I just happen to hate the fuck out of Wisconsin and most things associated with it. WELS and everything to do with it is at the top of the list, followed by UW-Madison people, followed by Democratic activists from Wisconsin, and down the line. You know how Colin Farrell's character in In Bruges is scared shitless that he'll spend eternity there when he's dying? My version of Hell is Wisconsin in general and Madison in particular.
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post #37 of 40
5/24/10 at 3:10pm
Best wishes, Cuchulain. I hope things start looking up for you.
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post #38 of 40
5/24/10 at 4:57pm
Feel inclined to comment on this... I live outside Milwaukee, but have been to Yesteryears Pub a few times after work... the owner is actually somewhat of a family friend too...

She's a hatefilled bitch,.. and to tell ya the truth, this act doesn't suprise me in the lease. West Allis is a pretty shitty area, whose population is filled with a heafty amount of HS dropouts, so this act happening in that area doesn't suprise me in the least...
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post #39 of 40
5/24/10 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
Wisconsin is a horrible state. Even if you ignore things like the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Church--Michele Bachmann's church body--it's filled, especially near and in Milwaukee and Madison, with people who have some sick and twisted amalgam of Sarah Palin's views on Alaska and a New Yorker's view of New York.

Why? No idea. It's one of the coldest areas of the country and does absolutely nothing other states don't do and many of them do those things better.

What the fuck are you talking about... WI has voted Democrat for many, many presidental elections.. Also, if you ever been to Madison, it is anything but conservative... very liberal college town, and a fun college town too.

Yes, WI is cold during the winter.. but it's not like we all huddle up in a log cabin waiting for Spring to come. I for one, love the hell out of winters... ton's of stuff to do. And what the fuck does "other states don't do, and many do those things better".... mean?
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post #40 of 40
5/25/10 at 12:36am
Holy shit. I went to that openbook.org and typed in Obama and found some fucking frightening stuff:

"Brent Heatwole I notice the "Nobama" countdown is down to 974. That seems way to long if America is going to survive! Ok, maybe alittle dramatic, but seriously, I hope we can shorten that number some.
2 days ago Durham, North Carolina"

Also pertinent to this thread: Cuchulain, get the fuck over it. Madison is awesome. But sorry to hear about your mom and the cancer coming back.
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