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Geek Poll: Which Upsets You More

Poll Results: I hate it more when people:

 
  • 45% (26)
    Hate the films/TV Shows/books/music/comics I love
  • 54% (31)
    Love the films/TV Shows/books/music/comics I hate
57 Total Votes  
post #1 of 62
5/26/10 at 8:04pm
Thread Starter 
Which is worse, when people love a film/TV show/book/comic you hate, or when people hate a film/TV show/book/piece of music/comic you love?

Personally I'd go with the second option, though I try not to let either bother me. I know my tastes run eclectic, and I often really get something out of enjoying something other hate (I think it's arrested development, born out of too much punk rock in high school).

When someone loves something I despised I notice myself becoming much more frustrated because:
A) I am a snob, and can't imagine people loving a lot of what I consider filth, at least not until I stop to think about the trash I love.
B) I'm afraid this popularity means stuff I hate will overshadow stuff I love.
C) Often people react rather offensively when I say I didn't enjoy something they loved, because I am a snob, and that reaction breeds contempt.

But what about you guys?
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post #2 of 62
5/26/10 at 8:06pm
The former bothers me to a far greater degree than the latter

EDIT: Or maybe it's the other way around. I don't know. I think it depends on the property
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post #3 of 62
5/26/10 at 8:23pm
C) When someone hates something I love, or loves something I hate, but doesn't have the brains to explain why in a reasonable, rational way OR is unwilling to listen to my side of the argument.
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post #4 of 62
5/26/10 at 8:26pm
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I guess I'm looking for the more common combination of elements to cause these problems, Parker. I feel like one has to be the bigger deal for irrational idiots.
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post #5 of 62
5/26/10 at 8:33pm
Parker wins.
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post #6 of 62
5/26/10 at 8:40pm
Thread Starter 
So my thread is over and only PK voted? I kind of want to erase it now.
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post #7 of 62
5/26/10 at 8:51pm
Parker wins, indeed.

But for the sake of the poll, I'd say I'm more annoyed when people love something I hate. But it has to be something I really do hate as opposed to not caring for or simply disliking.
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post #8 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:11pm
My wife and I watched TWILIGHT (she was curious) and we both tore it apart. However, her sister (being a fan) convinced my wife to check out the book...

And now she's hooked. And even wants to see the next few movies from her more experienced POV. I feel more betrayed by this conversion than the times she rolls her eyes at my schlocky SyFy creature features. Her new catchphrase is "Don't judge me".


But if it's something I feel strongly about? I get irritated at apathetic or unsubstantiated dismissals.
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post #9 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:16pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
Her new catchphrase is "Don't judge me".
HA! She knows it's horrid!
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post #10 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:17pm
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
HA! She knows it's horrid!
She looks so ashamed too.
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post #11 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:20pm
Be thankful she's just someone who enjoys them as opposed to someone who thinks they're legitimately good or something.
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post #12 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:23pm
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
Be thankful she's just someone who enjoys them as opposed to someone who thinks they're legitimately good or something.
Yeah, she starts wearing Edward thongs and writing fanfic, I'm seeking medication.
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post #13 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:24pm
Holy crap, this is like a riddle or something. I'm not voting, but mostly because I think they are about equal for me.
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post #14 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:25pm
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Originally Posted by Gabe Powers View Post
So my thread is over and only PK voted? I kind of want to erase it now.
Thanks, Gabe... I kind of want to erase my post in your thread now.
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post #15 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:25pm
My email indicates that people go fucking BALLISTIC when you dare not like something they like.
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post #16 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:25pm
I let the one hardcore Twilight fan in my life borrow Let The Right One In.

She has ceased to listen to any of my movie recommendations since. She was up all night piss scared. Because vampires frighten her.

I have been angered, disappointed, and highly amused in equal measure by this turn of events.
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post #17 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:28pm
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Originally Posted by Justin Clark View Post
Because "non sparkling" vampires frighten her.
There ya go.
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post #18 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:29pm
I've never disliked a film just because it was frightening. That's kind of dumb, IMHO.
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post #19 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:29pm
That's funny, because I didn't find Let the Right One In to be particularly frightening.

I have a friend who hates the whole Twilight thing. Not because of anything to do with quality, per se. She just hates how wrong it is when it comes to vampire lore. Sparkles!? "C'mon!!!" she says.

Per se?

I would actually love it if more films actually frightened me. I also have friends who dislike it when a film works on them too well. Too sad, too scary, too upsetting...
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post #20 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:35pm
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
I also have friends who dislike it when a film works on them too well. Too sad, too scary, too upsetting...
This is one I hear more than anything else. As many people as I recommended The Mist to when that came out, half of them hated it because the ending was too depressing. But everything before that was fuckin' awesome, apparently.

Of course, the main issue is simply the fact that for most people, movies are escapism. Theyre not thinking of it in terms of the art or the experience, for good, ill, love, hate, fear or courage, whathaveyou.
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post #21 of 62
5/26/10 at 9:51pm
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
My email indicates that people go fucking BALLISTIC when you dare not like something they like.
I've been stupidly reading the comments on your articles lately (it's like a trashy soap opera at this point), and I'm genuinely upset on your behalf, no snark. It's part of what made me start thinking about this.
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post #22 of 62
5/26/10 at 10:32pm
Now I want to change my vote. People going nuts over crap will leave me mystified more often than I get upset over people dissing stuff I like. It's probably because they enjoy things that reflect themselves than a true curiosity in new things. In college, just about everyone (small college, less than 600 students) enjoyed Questionable Content. I read a bit of the archives and hated it, but it reflected their self-image as "quirky self-ironic gang that's just facin' the facts". Annoying.
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post #23 of 62
5/26/10 at 10:33pm
I picked the latter. Few things are as annoying as listening to co-workers talking about how good whatever new reality show is, or how funny Old Dogs was.
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post #24 of 62
5/26/10 at 10:43pm
I went with the former. But it's not so much hate as much as disappointment. When I love something, I really want to share that and hope that other people get as happy or excited as I get. And I never go as as far as writing hate mail or going apoplectic over someone's opinion on the Internet.

I can't get too worked up over people liking stuff I hate because there's just way to much shit out there and way too many people who love that shit. How do you pick a target for hate?
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post #25 of 62
5/27/10 at 12:44am
People loving something you love for the absolute worst reasons to love it.
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post #26 of 62
5/27/10 at 12:47am
Shitty taste in film/music/television isn't a deal breaker for me. People like what they like.

Combine that shitty taste with a venomous defense when it's questioned or argue that it deserves to be held up as an example of high art? You can rightly fuck off.
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post #27 of 62
5/27/10 at 12:50am
I sort of love it when the things I like are unpopular. It's like external validation of the fact that you aren't a person suffering from herd mentality. For the same reason, I worry when things I like become unpopular.

But I don't follow trends or adopt or drop affinity for things based on their popularity or lack of it. That's something I hate the most about hipsters.
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post #28 of 62
5/27/10 at 12:58am
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
I sort of love it when the things I like are unpopular. It's like external validation of the fact that you aren't a person suffering from herd mentality. For the same reason, I worry when things I like become unpopular.
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Was the last word of your last sentence supposed to be popular?
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post #29 of 62
5/27/10 at 1:04am
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
That's something I hate the most about hipsters.
I hate hipsters because I can't wear a hoody and drink a PBR in public without being asked if I'm doing so as an ironic statement.
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post #30 of 62
5/27/10 at 1:05am
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
Was the last word of your last sentence supposed to be popular?
Yes, yes. I sometimes edit and then fail to revise.
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post #31 of 62
5/27/10 at 1:06am
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Originally Posted by Bancroft Agee View Post
I hate hipsters because I can't wear a hoody and drink a PBR in public without being asked if I'm doing so as an ironic statement.
At this point, I'm in favor of dumping chemical castration agents into the PBR supply.
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post #32 of 62
5/27/10 at 1:15am
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
At this point, I'm in favor of dumping chemical castration agents into the PBR supply.
Fuck that. I got my taste for PBR the natural way: Redneck relatives and the economics of getting drunk cheaply. If anything they should be the ones who have have to change.
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post #33 of 62
5/27/10 at 1:18am
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
Yes, yes. I sometimes edit and then fail to revise.
No worries. That happens to me sometimes too. I wind up with weird sentence fragments. Anyway, was not criticizing just asking for clarification. Thanks
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post #34 of 62
5/27/10 at 1:24am
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
I sort of love it when the things I like are unpopular.
I'm the opposite. I HATE being into obscure stuff, because I fucking have no one to talk to about any of it. I can't help it though, I just like what I like. I actually enjoy when I end up legitimately liking mainstream stuff.

As for the poll, neither one REALLY upsets me too badly, but if I'm being totally honest... sometimes I just hate something so much and everyone around me seems to love it, yeah that can get my goat sometimes.
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post #35 of 62
5/27/10 at 2:14am
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I think that part of the geek culture I come from, at least originally, those of horror films and punk rock, which are mostly defined by uncovering the most obscure thing possible, and being the first to show it to your geek friends. You don't even bother showing something like Joe D'Amato's Buio Omega to your normal friends. I think comic book, sci-fi, pop, and most film fan cultures are the opposite.

Edit to add: I've more recently discovered the joy in sharing more mainstream interests. There's no exploring subtext when it comes to Buio Omega either, and I've had some great discussions on this very site about extended universes and hidden meanings.
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post #36 of 62
5/27/10 at 3:51am
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
But if it's something I feel strongly about? I get irritated at apathetic or unsubstantiated dismissals.
Yeah, I'm on the same sheet of music as this. At least a "love" or "hate" will generate some sort of discussion.
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post #37 of 62
5/27/10 at 4:27am
I love introducing people to new things, so yeah, I guess it gets me when they just sit through it and go "eh, that was crap" - particularly when it's something I consider to be legitimately awesome, such as SHAUN OF THE DEAD or OLDBOY.
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post #38 of 62
5/27/10 at 4:44am
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I love introducing people to new things, so yeah, I guess it gets me when they just sit through it and go "eh, that was crap" - particularly when it's something I consider to be legitimately awesome, such as SHAUN OF THE DEAD or OLDBOY.
Agreed, especially on Oldboy. Also the Coens' Fargo, Miller's Crossing, Lebowski(gasp! although I felt similar first tme) and No Country.
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post #39 of 62
5/27/10 at 4:45am
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7 View Post
Agreed, especially on Oldboy. Also the Coens' Fargo, Miller's Crossing, B]Lebowski[/B](gasp! although I felt similar first tme) and No Country.
For me there's nothing like showing someone Dead Alive for the first time. They have no idea what they are in for, it's great.
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post #40 of 62
5/27/10 at 4:48am
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Originally Posted by Evi View Post
I love introducing people to new things, so yeah, I guess it gets me when they just sit through it and go "eh, that was crap" - particularly when it's something I consider to be legitimately awesome, such as SHAUN OF THE DEAD or OLDBOY.
I got introduced to Oldbody by a girl in my dormitory with epic cans. She invited me over to the room and baked me cookies prior to the film. It was odd.
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post #41 of 62
5/27/10 at 4:52am
Dead Alive, Audition, Hard Boiled, Run Lola Run, Miller's Crossing*, Oldboy, all great "first-timers" with friends(for different reasons)... and I had many friends reject them.
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post #42 of 62
5/27/10 at 6:28am
don't really care either way. Whether someone cares about what I care about doesn't change how much I care about it.
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post #43 of 62
5/27/10 at 6:43am
Count me in the it don't bother me ether way camp. My days of nerd rage are long since passed.
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post #44 of 62
5/27/10 at 7:19am
I'm another that doesn't really care either way. People are different and look for different things from culture and entertainment, and that's fine. In fact I kind of like the variety it creates. Other people's tastes being 'wrong' is only an issue when the things I like are compromised on account of being too niche or whatever.
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post #45 of 62
5/27/10 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7 View Post
Agreed, especially on Oldboy. Also the Coens' Fargo, Miller's Crossing, Lebowski(gasp! although I felt similar first tme) and No Country.
The Coen's stuff is understandable, to be fair. It took my third viewing just this month to finally sell me on Lebowski, and it's mostly since I'd seen a hell of a lot more of their movies since. Even without the language to explain why, everyone who watched their first Coen Bros. film knows something is different from every single other film you've ever seen.
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post #46 of 62
5/27/10 at 11:56am
Considering the movies I watch, the music I listen to, the books I read and my hobbies I'm quite used to people hating or not even acknowledging the things I love. I can even find valid reason for their opinion. It's the opposite, people loving the things I hate that bothers me most. The biggest example? An ex and now really good friend of mine absolutely loves the Twilight books. This confounds me for several reasons. She's not some sexually frustrated loner. She actually has very good taste in books, so she can't possibly think these books are well written. She's even very into the fantasy/horror genre. In fact we met at a bookstore she worked at when she noticed I was buying a Fritz Leiber book with Fafrd and the Grey Mouser stories and we got into a long discussion about the genre. She knew who Varney The Vampire is, for fucks sake. And yet she LOVES Twilight. I can't find a reason and it's fucking bothering me.
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post #47 of 62
5/27/10 at 12:11pm
I fully expect most of my friends to hate the films I love, but once in a blue moon, some of them actually manage to surprise me.
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post #48 of 62
5/27/10 at 12:16pm
As an englishman, I just don't understand why the new Dr WHo series gets so much love, and gets cut so much slack for stuff, that had another show pulled, would have resulted in a huge moan/backlash. And for some reason I can't explain, this bothers me more than someone shiting on say Oldboy or A History of Violence etc
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post #49 of 62
5/27/10 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post
Considering the movies I watch, the music I listen to, the books I read and my hobbies I'm quite used to people hating or not even acknowledging the things I love. I can even find valid reason for their opinion. It's the opposite, people loving the things I hate that bothers me most. The biggest example? An ex and now really good friend of mine absolutely loves the Twilight books. This confounds me for several reasons. She's not some sexually frustrated loner. She actually has very good taste in books, so she can't possibly think these books are well written. She's even very into the fantasy/horror genre. In fact we met at a bookstore she worked at when she noticed I was buying a Fritz Leiber book with Fafrd and the Grey Mouser stories and we got into a long discussion about the genre. She knew who Varney The Vampire is, for fucks sake. And yet she LOVES Twilight. I can't find a reason and it's fucking bothering me.
I'll open the same ol' can of worms that gets opened every time this "Why do people like Twilight?" conversation starts up: there's no difference between your ex liking Twilight and Rain Dog saying he loves a Mass Effect novelization, or another chewer sheepishly champions one of the more putrid straight-to-DVD action or horror films. The difference is in the mind-set: the "normalized" Twilight fan doesn't feel the need to apologize for his/her tastes, while the recovering fanboy--myself included--feels the need to constantly confess and purge themselves of their less sophisticated amusements.
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post #50 of 62
5/27/10 at 4:04pm
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I've found that no matter how gently I put it people who like me are really offended when I admit I didn't like Twilight or Avatar. Like, I see their faces twitch into frowns instantly. And I've long since learned to only reveal this when they bring it up.
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