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Now that I think I about it there was a scene where it looked like Chow and Wahlberg were gonna have dirty group sex with a couple of happening ladies but then Chow slips out and leaves them both for Wahlberg. I always thought he was just doing that as a polite gesture but now I'm not so sure. Anyway he still seemed to be a much more passionate character than in THE REPLACEMENT KILLERS.

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That guy is fucking awesome.  

 

I wont name names, but other actors start to look bad in comparison.  


HAHAHAHA. "won't name names" like you're sitting on a pile of actors who took whitewashed roles that nobody fucking knows about.

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I saw The Corruptor in theaters, as at the time I was obsessed with The Killer and Hard Boiled, and all I remember about that movie is Mark Wahlberg's butt during a massage scene.

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all I remember about that movie is Mark Wahlberg's butt during a massage scene.

 

You've been talking to Nooj too much.

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I know I watched it but I can't remember a single thing about The Corruptor. Not even Marky Mark's butt.
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You've been talking to Nooj too much.

15-year-old Bart was talking to Nooj too much?

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nooj! They're assuming every Asian is just like every other Asian! Your thoughts? Your feelings? YOUR OUTRAGE?!?!

 

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/daniel-dae-kim-hellboy-replaces-ed-skrein-1202554652/

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15-year-old Bart was talking to Nooj too much?

 

I know you have powers we have only faintly glimpsed.

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 An article by Paste Magazine quotes Nancy Wang Yuen, a sociologist, in which she recalls talking to an unnamed casting director regarding Asians.

 

"I work with a lot of different people and Asians are a challenge to cast because most casting directors feel as though they're not very expressive," the Hollywood casting director allegedly told Yuen.

 

"They're very shut down in their emotions...were they really have to act and get some kind of performance out...it's a challenge."

 

Jesus.

 

http://mashable.com/2017/09/11/asians-not-expressive-twitter/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-asia-link#M9161_RCziqA

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It's kind of a different issue, but I thought that sidelining Mike in IT and giving his whole role to another character was a real tone-deaf choice to make. I mean it's a movie about outsiders that sidelines its only black character. It's not the best look. 

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Fuckling christ. 

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SO INSCRUUUUTABLE!!

SO MYSTEEEEEERIOUS!!!
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Hoo boy.
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Okay, I LOL'd.

 

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The funny thing is you can watch exactly ONE Kurosawa film to know how utter bullshit that reasoning is. Fucking racist morons.
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I watched I Am Not Your Negro yesterday and remarked that racism has thrived in this country after the laws were passed because institutions like Hollywood kept racist ideologies in practice.  It is not enough to give blacks the right to drinking fountains and bathrooms, if you're still insinuating they're less than human in movies....  you are still perpetuating the problem.

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post your thoughts in the thread I started for the film!
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Not sure if this counts as anything more than "cool story bro," and I wasn't sure whether to put this here (even though it's not technically "whitewashing") or in the Wind River thread, but here it is.

 

I liked Wind River a lot.  I had a conversation with someone recently who disagreed, seemingly for the sole reason that they had cast Asians as some of the Native Americans.  "It's cultural appropriation, you can't do that any more, etc."  The actual race of the actors wasn't something I thought about at all when I was watching the movie - all I could point to for authenticity was Graham Greene.  But thinking back on it now, admittedly the brother character did look like he was Asian.  I think.

 

I tried googling yesterday, and it turns out this Wind River hater was wrong.  Or at least, mostly wrong.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/movies/wind-river-native-american-actors-casting.html

 

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Mr. Sheridan admitted, “There was someone far and away that was the best, but I didn’t hire them because they were not Native American.” He even told his casting directors that when it came to auditioning actors, “Don’t even read them unless you can vet the authentic nature of their ancestry.”

 

I say "mostly wrong" because

 

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Kelsey Asbille, who plays Natalie, the young Indian woman who is raped and murdered in “Wind River,” is of Taiwanese, British and Eastern Band Cherokee descent. Although she did not grow up in an indigenous community, she said she had an “intense connection” to Natalie and what she stood for, adding, “This role, more than any other, it’s in my blood.”

 

I guess my point is that it's interesting to see what it takes now to do things the right way, and that even if you do everything the right way you can still take flak from some misinformed people.

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First look at CRAZY RICH ASIANS, which I am crazy excited for: 

http://ew.com/movies/2017/11/02/crazy-rich-asians-first-look-ew-cover

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Hong Chau, on being cast in DOWNSIZING

 

https://www.gq.com/story/hong-chau-downsizing-profile

 

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Payne recalls when he first met Chau for tea: “I was auditioning some real McCoys from Vietnam, and she said, ‘I understand that, but you might want to have a Vietnamese-Americanwoman who will really understand what you’re doing. Who will understand the rhythm of the dialogue, the type of character you’ve written.’ ” An intellectual appeal.

In her words, it sounds more emotional. “I was like, ‘Please God, do not give this role to someone who’s not an actor just for the sake of authenticity,’ ” the Louisiana-raised Chau says. “If someone’s gonna fuck it up, let it be me.”

It’s not often you’re trying to convince a white guy to make something less authentic. But Chau has spent a lot of time thinking about who can play what. Her rules are generous. The thing that really matters: The actor must be “the most emotionally accurate for that character.” She explains: Imagine casting a Blanket Asian character with the last name Park, a traditionally Korean surname. If there’s nothing specifically Korean about the character in the script, does it even matter if they’re played by someone of Korean descent? Couldn’t a Chinese or Japanese actor suffice?

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That's a really nuanced way of looking at it, particularly that perspective of wanting to have someone who's "emotionally accurate," and how directors often favor authenticity over that. 

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Hong Chau, on being cast in DOWNSIZING

 

https://www.gq.com/story/hong-chau-downsizing-profile

 

It’s not often you’re trying to convince a white guy to make something less authentic. But Chau has spent a lot of time thinking about who can play what. Her rules are generous. The thing that really matters: The actor must be “the most emotionally accurate for that character.” She explains: Imagine casting a Blanket Asian character with the last name Park, a traditionally Korean surname. If there’s nothing specifically Korean about the character in the script, does it even matter if they’re played by someone of Korean descent? Couldn’t a Chinese or Japanese actor suffice?

 

 

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hahhahaha
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All these folks stroking Ridley Scott for the Plummer re-casting have hopefully acknowledged some of his brutal past casting....Yeah, probably not.

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Don't forget Vincent Kapoor, whose father was Hindu and whose mother was Baptist. 

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rage, curious: did you ever bring it up with your friend?

I ask because I get the sense there would be a goal-post moving justification along the lines of ‘well, she isn’t Native American ENOUGH.’
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Watching the Isle of Dogs trailer and I can hear the outrage of a thousand wordprocessors firing up! It sounds...like victory.
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Now that we have The Disaster Artist to work with,  whenever some movie does something baffling and needlessly complicated we can make a meme for it like "Why are we blacking up white people here when there's loads of Arabs right there?"  "Because this real Hollywood movie!"

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Originally Posted by Doc Happenin View Post

Watching the Isle of Dogs trailer and I can hear the outrage of a thousand wordprocessors firing up! It sounds...like victory.

 

Which would be silly since it's only the talking dogs and the western girl in the story that appear to be played by the white devils. 

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We prefer “PONC.”
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Originally Posted by Lightning Slim View Post

We prefer “PONC.”

And that's my favorite response this week, thank you.

 

Also every time I see POC written, for just a single brief a moment I swear it's a racial slur before I remember. 

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