Originally Posted by Ambler
Love that King quote.
Just more food for thought, back during slavery times, blacks were counted as 3/5 of a human being or something like that. You look at movies (past and present) and really don't see any improvement from that.
Okay, I feel like I have to address this because I see or hear it mentioned so often these days.
So here goes: When the Constitution was framed, a slave was counted as 3/5 of a person for the purposes of representation in the House. This was actually a benefit to the slave-holding states in the South, who thereby sent more Representatives to Congress than their white population would otherwise allow.
That slaves were counted at all for this purpose was not a good thing.
In reality, blacks were almost all chattel slaves in those states. Which is to say they were property. Which is to say they were not counted as human at all.
But to say the frequency with which black people star, appear or are represented in modern American cinema is somehow analogous to that state of affairs is ludicrous in the extreme.
There are problems still, of course, and they are the legacy of that terrible history...
My point above regarding whether or not they make a movie out of an obscure comics character like the Black Panther was predicated on the idea that we don't seem to have many black actors who aren't in that Will Smith / Denzel Washington upper-tier of movie stars. A middling action-star like Snipes, who made the "Blade" movies possible.
We've had, for instance, the marketing machine of Hollywood trying to cram Taylor fucking Kitsch down our throats the last year. And people ain't biting. It's definitely a problem that the major studios don't throw their weight behind more black actors of a similar or better quality.
But you, Ambler, called Marvel's decision "borderline racism". And Faraci intimated the same in his piece. I consider that to be a hasty jump to a distasteful conclusion. They may have to deal with the realities of their business that are bigger than them.
Say, for instance, that it goes as I suggested above and they plan to introduce T'Challa in the Avengers sequel... They're certainly not going to tell us that, are they? So that executive feels like he has to answer when asked about it, and gives a totally bullshit explanation. Because bullshitting is what those guys do.
I don't know-- I suppose I would prefer to examine other possibilities for certain things, before I cast aspersions on people's motives. But maybe that's not within the spirit of this thread.
A wise man once said that some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill. That could be me in this case.