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post #51 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:08pm
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Well, I gotta disagree, to an extent. I'm cursed/blessed with wide shoulders so all the regular button-downs that fit me look like I'm wearing a parachute, so I get them taken in on the sides. A little pricey after a while, sure, but the difference in appearance is worth it.
that's why I learned NEVER to buy shirts where you have to match your measurements. I got wide shoulders, and a thick neck from weight lifting. I think my neck is almost 19" around, so when I used to buy shirts where you would match up your neck size, and I got the 19" ones, the shirt was made like you wiegh 320lbs. having only a 32" waste, I too would look like I'm tucking in a parachute. I ussually shop at Express for my dress shirts, wear they come in the M, L, XL sizes. XL fits me perfectly. Just long enough, and it's tapers in. Plus the shoulders, chest, and arms fit nicely, not to tight, not too loose.
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post #52 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
Polos are cool if you want to look like someone's dad. Generally avoid them unless they're somehow styled differently (buttonless collar, shallow neckline, whatever).

Also, if you post on the internet regularly and have facial hair, 75-80% of the time you should get rid of it. There are obvious exceptions, but thanks to the popularity of the hipster lumberjack look, the hipster mustache, and the geek neckbeard look, facial hair's getting pretty egregious.
I enjoy my polos alot. I have some fitted ones, that look pretty sharp (sound like my dad) with a nice pair of dress slacks (there it is again). I also like my ralph lauren polos with shorts. They aren't baggy, but they are also not Daniel Craig clingy either.

The one style I HATE, is short sleeved dress shirts. just roll up your sleeves.
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post #53 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:13pm
What's with all the giants here? And when are we getting that Chud basketball team together?
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post #54 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:14pm
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
The one style I HATE, is short sleeved dress shirts. just roll up your sleeves.
Absolutely seconded.
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post #55 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by jvc View Post
What's with all the giants here? And when are we getting that Chud basketball team together?
I'm white. So I can't shoot a basket to save my life. Baseball on the other hand, I'm in for that.
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post #56 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:16pm
anyone else beside me, like wearing suspenders with a suite? Just something about them, an "old school" type coolness.
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post #57 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
The one style I HATE, is short sleeved dress shirts. just roll up your sleeves.
Yeah, nobody should ever do the short-sleeved dress shirt. Guys already look like spergin' virgins in them, and if you add a tie you're officially on the bullet train to "Never Gonna Get Laid By Anyone Who's Not A Male Relative"-ville.

EDIT: Also, no suspenders unless you are a grizzled private detective. Wear a belt.
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post #58 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:19pm
Okay, yeah, I'll admit it - I totally did the "hector my boyfriend until he dresses better" thing, even though it was very nice, respectful, diplomatic hectoring.

I'm down with most of what Jake has said, particularly the bit about making sure, dear God, that one's clothes fit correctly. Also, if it's financially possible, it is completely worth it to spend a little more or do a little digging for higher-quality clothing. It will last longer and look far, far nicer.

We must part ways on the polo shirt, though. I am pro polo shirt, as long as the "it must fit" rule is followed and consideration is given to where one might be a bit under-dressed in a polo shirt.
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post #59 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:21pm
The only time I'll wear a polo shirt is if I have NOTHING ELSE left in my closet or I just don't give a shit about anything that day, which is kinda telling about how much I can't stand polo shirts that I would automatically link wearing them to existential despair.

Basically if you see me wearing a polo shirt and I'm not at my desk at work or homeless or immediately apologizing for wearing it while approaching you call the cops
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post #60 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
The only time I'll wear a polo shirt is if I have NOTHING ELSE left in my closet or I just don't give a shit about anything that day, which is kinda telling about how much I can't stand polo shirts that I would automatically link wearing them to existential despair.

Basically if you see me wearing a polo shirt and I'm not at my desk at work or homeless or immediately apologizing for wearing it while approaching you call the cops
what about Golf?
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post #61 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:23pm
I'd like to quickly add that you can't always trust your girlfriend's taste in clothing or appearance. I dated a lovely, remarkable woman who thought I should get a mullet haircut, and another who favored an evening dress that looked like it was made from trailer curtains.
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post #62 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:23pm
By the way, if you have to buy a suit (either for work or for an occasion), spend the money and buy a real fucking suit. Get something of quality and get it tailored correctly. You'll look and feel like a million bucks.

Seriously, there's NOTHING worse than one of those cheap, shiny $100 suits.
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post #63 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post
I'd like to quickly add that you can't always trust your girlfriend's taste in clothing or appearance. I dated a lovely, remarkable woman who thought I should get a mullet haircut, and another who had an evening dress that looked like it was made from trailer curtains.
second that man. My last GF before I started dating my future wife, always wanted to dress me they way she wanted. She was somewhat of a hick, and wanted me to wear Nascar shit. Yeah, that didn't happen. You know it's bad, when you show up to her families house, and your wearing nice jeans, and a nice shirt and her dad asks "you gay or something boy".
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post #64 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
By the way, if you have to buy a suit (either for work or for an occasion), spend the money and buy a real fucking suit. Get something of quality and get it tailored correctly. You'll look and feel like a million bucks.

Seriously, there's NOTHING worse than one of those cheap, shiny $100 suits.
Yup. Canali is a nice starter suit for folks ready to move past the poly blends. Get something basic and classic and you can wear it for a decade.
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post #65 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
By the way, if you have to buy a suit (either for work or for an occasion), spend the money and buy a real fucking suit. Get something of quality and get it tailored correctly. You'll look and feel like a million bucks.

Seriously, there's NOTHING worse than one of those cheap, shiny $100 suits.
I'm so lucky in the sute deparment. Mine need little to no tailoring. Just the sleeves need to be shortened so I can get that "cuff" look.

Speaking of that. What the hell is wrong with people today n suites. SHOW SOME CUFF. When you can't see the shirt cuff, you are looking like you are wearing your dad's suite.
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post #66 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:27pm
Thread Starter 
Yeah, Carly probably wants me in 4 cumberbunds and a pair of saddle shoes.
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post #67 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:30pm
And nothing else.
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post #68 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
Yup. Canali is a nice starter suit for folks ready to move past the poly blends. Get something basic and classic and you can wear it for a decade.
I got fitted for all 3 of my suites, and most of the time, it's FREE. You don't have to spend a grand for a good suite, you can find good ones for a quarter of the price, specially if you are in decent shape.

people's opinion on Hanky's?
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post #69 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post
I'd like to quickly add that you can't always trust your girlfriend's taste in clothing or appearance. I dated a lovely, remarkable woman who thought I should get a mullet haircut, and another who favored an evening dress that looked like it was made from trailer curtains.
Definitely. Take advice from your significant other only insofar as you like the way he/she dresses. Fortunately for DaveB, I'm quite dapper, so he can listen to me.

But, Jacob, you bring up a good point - let us not underestimate the value of a decent haircut. Do not take your poor hair to Super Cuts. Also, if it's falling out or turning gray, find ways to respect that. Comb-overs or bad dye jobs are not the way.
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post #70 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:35pm
if your lossing hair, and got big bald spots. buzz it. not bic it. just keep it super short
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post #71 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
people's opinion on Hanky's?
In your tux pocket: yes
In your sport coat jacket: if you're doing something formal, and it matches your tie
In your pocket to actually blow your nose: No, that is a cloth filled with snot.
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post #72 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
what about Golf?
Never golf. Fuck golf.

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Originally Posted by MissZooey View Post
But, Jacob, you bring up a good point - let us not underestimate the value of a decent haircut. Do not take your poor hair to Super Cuts. Also, if it's falling out or turning gray, find ways to respect that. Comb-overs or bad dye jobs are not the way.
Yeah, that. Also if you have the Elvish wispy Legolas thing going on you should absolutely cut your hair so fast that Wolverine would be jealous of your aptitude with blades, barring the remote possibility that you play the flute in a Jethro Tull cover band. But yeah, spend the money to go to a stylist and get a cut that complements (sic?) your face. I got lucky with the shoulder-length hippie-hair business, but I still gotta get it cleaned up.
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post #73 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
Yup. Canali is a nice starter suit for folks ready to move past the poly blends. Get something basic and classic and you can wear it for a decade.
I got a sale on two nice Botany suits for 350.00 at Mens Wearhouse 5 years ago, and I still wear the suits. Go for dark/charcoal gray, and dark navy blue (SMALL pinstripes if you must). These will tend to not go out of style and you can wear all year round.
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post #74 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
I got fitted for all 3 of my suites, and most of the time, it's FREE. You don't have to spend a grand for a good suite, you can find good ones for a quarter of the price, specially if you are in decent shape.
You can pick up a decent suit for around $400 if you hit a sale right. Basic alterations/tailoring should be free at most department stores.

Solid brands for the pricepoint:
Canali
Kenneth Cole
Joseph Abboud

Spend the money and get a really nice solid BLACK suit (no pinstripes). It'll never go out of style and last you for years. You can get some sportcoats to go with the suit pants and create many looks.

Also, learn to tie a tie. Avoid any clip-ons. Under no circumstances should you ever wear a bolo tie.
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post #75 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:40pm
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
Never golf. Fuck golf.


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you must be single.
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post #76 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
You can pick up a decent suit for around $400 if you hit a sale right. Basic alterations/tailoring should be free at most department stores.

Solid brands for the pricepoint:
Canali
Kenneth Cole
Joseph Abboud

Spend the money and get a really nice solid BLACK suit (no pinstripes). It'll never go out of style and last you for years. You can get some sportcoats to go with the suit pants and create many looks.

Also, learn to tie a tie. Avoid any clip-ons. Under no circumstances should you ever wear a bolo tie.
my Kenneth Cole suite I got a Macys I think, was marked down even more then that. I think I got it for about 280, and I got free alterations. It was just the Jacket and Pants, no shirts or ties with it. BUt I think it was originally 600.
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post #77 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by Chris Miller View Post
I got a sale on two nice Botany suits for 350.00 at Mens Wearhouse 5 years ago, and I still wear the suits. Go for dark/charcoal gray, and dark navy blue (SMALL pinstripes if you must). These will tend to not go out of style and you can wear all year round.
I can't do Navy. Just makes me feel like I'm going off to boarding school
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post #78 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
I can't do Navy. Just makes me feel like I'm going off to boarding school
I have a very dark Navy suit with very dark (as in can barely see them) purple pinstripes. It looks awesome.
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post #79 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by Chris Miller View Post
I have a very dark Navy suit with very dark (as in can barely see them) purple pinstripes. It looks awesome.
tell me no black shoes
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post #80 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
you must be single.
Single and if you ever see me on a golf course and I'm not 60 or liquored to the tits please run me over with a golf cart.

Also, Nordstrom Rack is good for deep-discounted suits. And if you can find one in your area, Three-Day Suit Broker is fantastic.
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post #81 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
my Kenneth Cole suite I got a Macys I think, was marked down even more then that. I think I got it for about 280, and I got free alterations. It was just the Jacket and Pants, no shirts or ties with it. BUt I think it was originally 600.
Yeah, they run in the $600 range now. I have several Kenneth Cole suits because they happen to fit my frame almost perfectly. I also have a few Joseph Abboud and Burberry suits, but I usually go back to the KC's due to the perfect fit.

Most of the major dept stores have huge men's wear sales at least once a year. Look for those sales and you can get some great deals.
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post #82 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
Single and if you ever see me on a golf course and I'm not 60 or liquored to the tits please run me over with a golf cart.

Also, Nordstrom Rack is good for deep-discounted suits. And if you can find one in your area, Three-Day Suit Broker is fantastic.
Nordstrom Rack is awesome. I got a 500 dollar overcoat for 45 bucks.
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post #83 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:49pm
Going to a wedding this weekend. I'm not "standing" up, but I'm required to dress a cerian way from what I've been hearing. Black suite, white shirt, black tie. Seriously? Dressing like I'm going to wedding, or fighting aliens. A little color never hurt anyone.
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post #84 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:50pm
Was going to chime in, but Phil and Jake (those queens), have most of it covered.

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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
Also, NEVER WEAR WHITE SOCKS UNLESS THEY ARE THE SMALL ANKLE SOCKS FOR THE GYM. Jesus christ I can't stress how awful it is to see a dude in slacks and dress shoes looking like Michael Jackson. He could pull it off. Every other male in the universe can't. The same goes for those stupid white tennis shoes that a lot of white guys inexplicably wear.
THIS! Don't be afraid of colored socks.

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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
There's nothing quite as liberating as some linen pants with no underwear. It's like being allowed to attend dressy events in your pajamas.
Oh man, Phil is so right here. Just be careful with tightness depending on how you "dress." I skipped out to a beach wedding once (with famous Hollywood actor types, no less) only to discover you could clearly make out my "business" depending on how I was standing. This also ties into "don't get in a hurry when you just bought new clothes and are free-balling them for the first time."

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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
Also, learn to tie a tie. Avoid any clip-ons. Under no circumstances should you ever wear a bolo tie.
I'd say this is a no-brainer, but I've actually seen dudes with clip-ons recently. Come on. Learn to tie the fucker. It's one of the many things youtube is for.
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post #85 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:51pm
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
Yeah, they run in the $600 range now. I have several Kenneth Cole suits because they happen to fit my frame almost perfectly. I also have a few Joseph Abboud and Burberry suits, but I usually go back to the KC's due to the perfect fit.

Most of the major dept stores have huge men's wear sales at least once a year. Look for those sales and you can get some great deals.
I love KC Sport Coats, and like some said above, you can mix and match those with so many different colored pants, and shirts.

I do not like KC dress pants tho. Made for guys with flat asses. CK always seems to work the best for me in the end. I have my Black KC suite, one grey CK suite, and one charcoalish CK suite. I have like 6 sport coats tho, and those get the most miles on them from me.
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post #86 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:51pm
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Originally Posted by Chris Miller View Post
Nordstrom Rack is awesome. I got a 500 dollar overcoat for 45 bucks.
Nordstrom Rack is greatif you're an odd size. I've had bad luck finding a decent 40 or 42 in there that was of a decent color.
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post #87 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:52pm
Also, for fuck's sake white people, if you are going gray or losing the hair, I cannot emphasize enough you should resist every urge in you to go bald. There is no excuse to look like a penis with shoes in this life.
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post #88 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:54pm
two things about casual wear that makes me rolls my eyes.

Socks and sandles don't mix

and if you are wearing shorts, wear the low, to "no see" socks too when sporting your tennis shoes. To many times i see guys with their socks pulled straigh up to their knees. What's the point of wearing shorts then?

I think this is a Wisconsin thing... but too many guys up here, HATE wearing suites. You would be suprised how many weddings I got to, and I'm the only guy under the age of 35 with a suite on.
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post #89 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
II do not like KC dress pants tho. Made for guys with flat asses. CK always seems to work the best for me in the end. I have my Black KC suite, one grey CK suite, and one charcoalish CK suite. I have like 6 sport coats tho, and those get the most miles on them from me.
I have absolutely NO ASS, so those KC suits work perfectly for me.

If you're going suit shopping, spend the time and effort to really shop around and try out all of the brands. All of them are cut differently, and you'll learn really quickly which brands will fit your body's needs.
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post #90 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by Justin Clark View Post
Also, for fuck's sake white people, if you are going gray or losing the hair, I cannot emphasize enough you should resist every urge in you to go bald. There is no excuse to look like a penis with shoes in this life.
Out of curiousity, why does this only apply to white people?
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post #91 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:56pm
Thread Starter 
Blacks look GREAT bald.
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post #92 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
Nordstrom Rack is greatif you're an odd size. I've had bad luck finding a decent 40 or 42 in there that was of a decent color.
40..42? that's kind of small ain't it?

so easy to find a 46 for me.
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post #93 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:56pm
If I was at a formal event and an adult was wearing a clip on I would have a hard time not laughing in his face.
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post #94 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:56pm
Piece of advice. If you work at a place that is "business casual" don't take it to the extreme. Use common sense and don't try and push the envelope. People who bend the rules on work dress are not edgy or cool, they're idiots. Work is not the place to fight the man on the dress code. Now, if you hate your job and want to be a dick or are trying to get let go then go for it. But if you have any interest whatsoever in being promoted or even just in the more stable groups at work then dress appropriately.

Oh, and the inverse applies. If your office is business casual and you always come in wearing a suit you look like a pretentious tool.
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post #95 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
40..42? that's kind of small ain't it?
I'm svelte.
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post #96 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
I have absolutely NO ASS, so those KC suits work perfectly for me.

If you're going suit shopping, spend the time and effort to really shop around and try out all of the brands. All of them are cut differently, and you'll learn really quickly which brands will fit your body's needs.
CK works nicely for me. I got a bubble butt, but most pants are made for flat asses.

Now, only is apple bottom made suites... right?
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post #97 of 362
6/2/10 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by JudgeSmails View Post
Piece of advice. If you work at a place that is "business casual" don't take it to the extreme. Use common sense and don't try and push the envelope. People who bend the rules on work dress are not edgy or cool, they're idiots. Work is not the place to fight the man on the dress code. Now, if you hate your job and want to be a dick or are trying to get let go then go for it. But if you have any interest whatsoever in being promoted or even just in the more stable groups at work then dress appropriately.

Oh, and the inverse applies. If your office is business casual and you always come in wearing a suit you look like a pretentious tool.
I hear that man. It's not so hard to wear dress pants, and a dress shirt. But I guess it is for some people. One guy were I used to work was mad that he got yelled at for wearing a football jersey and khakis. He thought that was business casual
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post #98 of 362
6/2/10 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
I'm so lucky in the sute deparment. Mine need little to no tailoring. Just the sleeves need to be shortened so I can get that "cuff" look.

Speaking of that. What the hell is wrong with people today n suites. SHOW SOME CUFF. When you can't see the shirt cuff, you are looking like you are wearing your dad's suite.
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
I got fitted for all 3 of my suites, and most of the time, it's FREE. You don't have to spend a grand for a good suite, you can find good ones for a quarter of the price, specially if you are in decent shape.

people's opinion on Hanky's?
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
two things about casual wear that makes me rolls my eyes.

Socks and sandles don't mix

and if you are wearing shorts, wear the low, to "no see" socks too when sporting your tennis shoes. To many times i see guys with their socks pulled straigh up to their knees. What's the point of wearing shorts then?

I think this is a Wisconsin thing... but too many guys up here, HATE wearing suites. You would be suprised how many weddings I got to, and I'm the only guy under the age of 35 with a suite on.
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
CK works nicely for me. I got a bubble butt, but most pants are made for flat asses.

Now, only is apple bottom made suites... right?
Gah, going crazy here. SUIT. SUITS. SUIT. SUITS. NO E. Zero E's
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post #99 of 362
6/2/10 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
Blacks look GREAT bald.
You know, I tried to think of a black dude who looks terrible bald and, as God's my witness, I just can't do it.
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post #100 of 362
6/2/10 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by Mattioli View Post
Out of curiousity, why does this only apply to white people?
1 out of 10 white guys can pull off the look. I honestly wish I knew exactly what the science is there, but there's something extremely aesthetically off-putting about a pale-skinned head with no hair. If I had to guess, maybe the color proximity to a skull, but that's all I got.

Obviously, if you have cancer, you're excused. But even then, I'll need to see a doctor's note.
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