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post #1501 of 1981
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
I don't want to link it because it'll probably be news soon, but some of you with problems with the writing on the show are about to be very happy.
Dickson, I will be in the office at 8:05am EST. If the front page of CHUD does not have what you have by then I expect that shit to posted no later than 8:06am EST.
post #1502 of 1981
Thread Starter 
EXCLUSIVE: I hear The Walking Dead writer/ executive producer/ director Frank Darabont has let go of the writers on the hot freshman AMC series, which has already renewed for a second season. That includes Darabont's No. 2, writing executive producer Charles “Chic” Eglee. Writer turnover on series between seasons is commonplace but wholesale overhauls are unusual. What's more, I hear Darabont is looking to forgo having a writing staff for the second season of Walking Dead altogether and assign scripts to freelancers.

Darabont, who hails from the feature world with The Young Indiana Jones as the only series credit before Walking Dead, ended up writing 2 of the first season's 6 episodes of Walking Dead - the pilot and the second episode - and co-writing/rewriting the other 4. Two of those 4 were written by non-staff writers, one by executive producer Robert Kirkman, on whose comics the series is based, and one by Glen Mazzara. The freelance model is employed by the Starz/BBC series Tourchwood, which in turn borrowed it from the U.K. where the show originated. Having BBC as producer has allowed Torchwood to proceed with no writing staff but I hear such a plan on an U.S.-based network series such as Walking Dead may face issues with the Writers Guild. And, while the first season of Walking Dead was only 6 episodes, its second-season order is for 13, which may prove harder to manage in pre-production, production and post-production with no writing staff. Sources tell me that no final decision has been made yet with all options open, including using some combination of a writing staff/freelances. There is time - AMC is mulling launching Walking Dead's second season the way it did the first one - in October during Fearfest.
post #1503 of 1981
This makes me look forward to the second season more than anything I've seen in the series so far.
post #1504 of 1981
I had no idea second season was 13 eps. This is all good news and I'm super chuffed to hear that Darabont is such a strong driving force behind the show, and not just cashing in a paycheck! As far as I'm concerned, the further they stray from the source material the better. Not sure about the freelancer model though, aren't there any good showrunners available? I hear Bryan Fuller's looking for work...
post #1505 of 1981
Darabont essentially is the showrunner, no?
post #1506 of 1981
He already is as far as I can tell. Since his involvement and his alone was the main reason for my interest in this, him being that much more hands on in the second season is really good news.
post #1507 of 1981
Sure and if it remains like this that's great, but it's unusual for big directors to remain this hands on because sooner or later they'll be deep in production on something else. A showrunner should be someone who can devote all his time and energy to the show. Take Boardwalk Empire for example, Scorsese is highly involved, but it's Terence Winter who's steering the ship.
post #1508 of 1981
Thread Starter 
Darabont seems to be absolutely in love with the show on every level, and has his hands in everything as it is, so I don't think he'll mind being the showrunner. Plenty of time in the future for more movies.
post #1509 of 1981
And that's what I was holding back on.
post #1510 of 1981
It's on the front page already, though in an unexpected place.
post #1511 of 1981
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Originally Posted by Dr. Murder View Post
EXCLUSIVE: I hear The Walking Dead writer/ executive producer/ director Frank Darabont has let go of the writers on the hot freshman AMC series, which has already renewed for a second season. That includes Darabont's No. 2, writing executive producer Charles “Chic” Eglee. Writer turnover on series between seasons is commonplace but wholesale overhauls are unusual. What's more, I hear Darabont is looking to forgo having a writing staff for the second season of Walking Dead altogether and assign scripts to freelancers.

Darabont, who hails from the feature world with The Young Indiana Jones as the only series credit before Walking Dead, ended up writing 2 of the first season's 6 episodes of Walking Dead - the pilot and the second episode - and co-writing/rewriting the other 4. Two of those 4 were written by non-staff writers, one by executive producer Robert Kirkman, on whose comics the series is based, and one by Glen Mazzara. The freelance model is employed by the Starz/BBC series Tourchwood, which in turn borrowed it from the U.K. where the show originated. Having BBC as producer has allowed Torchwood to proceed with no writing staff but I hear such a plan on an U.S.-based network series such as Walking Dead may face issues with the Writers Guild. And, while the first season of Walking Dead was only 6 episodes, its second-season order is for 13, which may prove harder to manage in pre-production, production and post-production with no writing staff. Sources tell me that no final decision has been made yet with all options open, including using some combination of a writing staff/freelances. There is time - AMC is mulling launching Walking Dead's second season the way it did the first one - in October during Fearfest.
This is frowned upon, yeah?
post #1512 of 1981
There was a story mentioning it posted on the main page, so he's probably okay on that front, but it's pretty bad form to just copy and paste what's obviously an article from another site and just leave it with no thoughts of your own.
post #1513 of 1981
Writing staffs get fired between short seasons like this all the time. This is no reason to get excited.

I'm sure season 2 will have its fair share of "Hey, who's that moanin' around outside the tent? Wife? Is that you? Aw, dammit, wife! Quit pawin' around and get in here! Hold on while I open the tent flap with the soft part of my neck."
post #1514 of 1981
Thread Starter 
Sorry, huh? Posting news about a show is bad form?

It's from here if you need a source: http://www.deadline.com/2010/11/the-...-for-season-2/
post #1515 of 1981
The rule is this: You submit the news to the writers of the site, you wait a couple hours, and if nothing goes up, you can post it. If you haven't yet, I'd still suggest submitting it.
post #1516 of 1981
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Originally Posted by Trevor View Post
I'm sure season 2 will have its fair share of "Hey, who's that moanin' around outside the tent? Wife? Is that you? Aw, dammit, wife! Quit pawin' around and get in here! Hold on while I open the tent flap with the soft part of my neck."
What's so strange about that? What does he have to fear? It's not like the undead are walking around munching on the living ...

Oh.
post #1517 of 1981
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
There was a story mentioning it posted on the main page, so he's probably okay on that front, but it's pretty bad form to just copy and paste what's obviously an article from another site and just leave it with no thoughts of your own.
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Originally Posted by Dr. Murder View Post
Sorry, huh? Posting news about a show is bad form?

It's from here if you need a source: http://www.deadline.com/2010/11/the-...-for-season-2/
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
The rule is this: You submit the news to the writers of the site, you wait a couple hours, and if nothing goes up, you can post it. If you haven't yet, I'd still suggest submitting it.
Not sure what time Alex posted the DVD/writer news but I just saw his 2:50am timestamp and figured it might have been a little premature.

No harm I am sure, just pointing out and probably should have done so in a better fashion.
post #1518 of 1981
Yup, and whenever possible, link to the CHUD article (which by the way I can't find despite a admittedly superficial search). I hope the Main Page gets updated on the new boards. Searching for news is abysmal currently.

EDIT: http://chud.com/articles/articles/26...OON/Page1.html

Found it, though just skimmed the article and it was mostly about the DVD release. The last paragraph talks about the writer turnover.
post #1519 of 1981
Thread Starter 
My apologies then, had no idea such a strict system was in place
post #1520 of 1981
No problem.
post #1521 of 1981
Thread Starter 
Anyway, here's the link to the CHUD story on it

http://chud.com/articles/articles/26...N-2/Page1.html
post #1522 of 1981
Rock on. I had ordered the Amazon TV pass for the show but episodes 4 and 5 didn't automatically process at the discounted price. Amazon customer service has given me a credit for the final episode for the problem and they were unbelievably nice and helpful.

"A++++++!! Would buy from again!"
post #1523 of 1981
From Nick's article:
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The idea of freelancers coming on is intriguing. Now that the show's a hit it can do individual stories. Imagine that the world is set and now it can almost feature a bunch of cool zombie stories written by diverse writers and not have to always stick to the "band of boring survivors" motif.

That would be a really cool approach to the second season and a great way to differentiate the show from the comic.

I just got to the meeting of the Governor in the comic and if this approach allows us to avoid seeing the Governor and the Hunters on the series, then I'm all for it.
post #1524 of 1981
It's not going to be like that. Darabont said he was meeting with Kirkman over the break to create a series wide arc and ending for the series. Presumably, these freelancers are just going to be writing around that arc.
post #1525 of 1981
Ben, I'm sorry but I hid some possibly spoilery stuff. Comic characters and arcs shouldn't be mentioned in this thread. Let me know if it's a problem.
post #1526 of 1981
You did the right thing, Stelios.

Also, Ben: Darabont's said he loves that character, so they're gonna show up. Who knows when, though.
post #1527 of 1981
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post
Ben, I'm sorry but I hid some possibly spoilery stuff. Comic characters and arcs shouldn't be mentioned in this thread. Let me know if it's a problem.
Not a problem. Won't happen again.
post #1528 of 1981
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Originally Posted by Ryan C.B. View Post
You did the right thing, Stelios.

Also, Ben: Darabont's said he loves that character, so they're gonna show up. Who knows when, though.
That story and the fact that Darabont loves the character really creeps me out.
post #1529 of 1981
A few cool tidbits:

First off, AMC will show a TWD marathon starting at 2:30 (PST) on Sunday, leading up to the season finale, "TS-19."

In the meantime, at www.amctv.com, they have a clip from "TS-19" which seems like they're going attempt to explore the "why is it happening?" discussion a bit in the finale.

More relevant to this thread though, check out "Inside The Walking Dead: 105, Wildfire." In that behind-the-scenes featurette, they directly address Shane's motivations for aiming his shotgun at Rick. Some of our more aggressive detractors might call "bullshit" on the explanation but I thought it was kind of interesting and provided some new perspective on the Shane/Rick relationship.
post #1530 of 1981
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Originally Posted by Litmus Configuration View Post
More relevant to this thread though, check out "Inside The Walking Dead: 105, Wildfire." In that behind-the-scenes featurette, they directly address Shane's motivations for aiming his shotgun at Rick. Some of our more aggressive detractors might call "bullshit" on the explanation but I thought it was kind of interesting and provided some new perspective on the Shane/Rick relationship.
Give this man a gold star, hip waders are needed to slog through that explanation.

Also, what fucking show is the actress that plays Lori in? She had a whole lot of shit going on at that funeral that wasn't going on at that funeral. Holeee....
post #1531 of 1981
Yeah...
post #1532 of 1981
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Originally Posted by TzuDohNihm View Post
Also, what fucking show is the actress that plays Lori in? She had a whole lot of shit going on at that funeral that wasn't going on at that funeral. Holeee....
Prison Break, I believe. She played Michael's love interest.
post #1533 of 1981
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Originally Posted by felix View Post
Prison Break, I believe. She played Michael's love interest.
BWAH-HAHAHAHA!!!

Totally not how that sentence was supposed to be taken. Go watch the video Litmus talks about..... heh...
post #1534 of 1981
I remember how rabid everyone was in the early posts and over-the-top frothing of the mouth in the talkbacks, and now am chuckling. The show was uneven from the beginning.
post #1535 of 1981
Nice use of zombiese. More groaning next time, though.
post #1536 of 1981
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Originally Posted by Litmus Configuration View Post
More relevant to this thread though, check out "Inside The Walking Dead: 105, Wildfire." In that behind-the-scenes featurette, they directly address Shane's motivations for aiming his shotgun at Rick. Some of our more aggressive detractors might call "bullshit" on the explanation but I thought it was kind of interesting and provided some new perspective on the Shane/Rick relationship.
The explanation is exactly what most of us have been saying. He'd been hurt by the loss of Lori, he was hurt by Rick saying he didn't understand, and in the heat of the moment he had a momentary lapse in judgment.

And yeah, what the hell was the actress who played Lori going on about? She definitely thought her performance came across deeper than it did.
post #1537 of 1981
I'm trying not to hate Lori but dammit she makes it so difficult.
post #1538 of 1981
Better episode. Something interesting happened. And thanks to the video diary we now know when the outbreak started: 193 days ago, or 6 1/2 months. That's a much more realistic timeframe for a breakdown of society than just a month. Maybe there were a few incidents before Rick was shot.
post #1539 of 1981
Re: The writer shakeup.

For all its fault, this show has always been Darabont's baby. His paws are all over every episode already. That is not going to change. So why are people expecting the writing to get any better?
post #1540 of 1981
Even after the zombie plague, the evils of pinball machines linger.
post #1541 of 1981
If this season ends with the end of the countdown and a cut to credits, I'm going to be pissed.
post #1542 of 1981
For those wondering, the music used during the explanation sequence of the decontamination countdown was "Running to the Rain," from Peter Gabriel's score for the film RABBIT PROOF FENCE.
post #1543 of 1981
That was a terrible hour of television.
post #1544 of 1981
Completely disagree.
post #1545 of 1981
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Completely disagree.
This.

I loved it.
post #1546 of 1981
I had a...blast.

No seriously. I loved it. I honestly don't know if I'll ever understand the disconnect between lovers and haters of this show. All I know is, I'm enjoying the fuck out of THE WALKING DEAD, simple pleasure though it might be. And now, an agonizing year of waiting. Sigh.
post #1547 of 1981
"I lost somebody too. I know how difficult it can be."

WHO DIDN'T?
post #1548 of 1981
Really liked this. I was kind of put off by how dickish everyone was being to the Doc, but aside from that, pretty good stuff. Really like how we're sympathizing with Shane a little more. The show does a great job of juggling both Rick and Shane as flawed heroes.

And only about 30 seconds of zombies in this ep. Can't wait to see where Darabont and Co are gonna take this next season.
post #1549 of 1981
That was my least favorite episode of the season, although I still enjoyed it and love the show overall.

But in your face people who thought Shane lied, and in your face Tzu re: the grenade. I KNEW they wouldn't let that go.
post #1550 of 1981
I found the whole Test Subject 19 sequence really affecting. From Jenner talking about what makes us alive to watching the subject die and come back to the bullet, which I knew was coming but still found jarring. Somehow seeing it in that abstract way was more haunting than seeing video of a person coming back.
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