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post #1801 of 1981
12/7/10 at 8:27pm
Foster's got wolf eyes. They're crazy.
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post #1802 of 1981
12/7/10 at 8:54pm
Just wait until a certain character in the TWD universe gets his balls nailed to the floor and his eyes scraped out with a spoon. Then we will have moved on from soap opera status. I like the changes from the comic so far but I really hope this TV show escalates in the same way as the comic in regards to certain stuff. If they can get away with it. Don't worry about the above being a spoiler, it really isn't.
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post #1803 of 1981
12/7/10 at 8:59pm
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On a similar note to Dan's. It's probably just me and my ways, but when Lauren (?) opted to stay with Jenner and be incinerated, did anyone else go: "Hey! If we have any shot at this, you're more important than the men!" Is that horribly outdated or do the rules change when facing an extinction event?
Her name is Jackie. And I laughed at how little T-Dog struggled to go after her. He made a half-hearted attempt to reach out his hand and then turned around. No one else gave a shit. It was so surreal.
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post #1804 of 1981
12/7/10 at 9:08pm
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Her name is Jackie. And I laughed at how little T-Dog struggled to go after her. He made a half-hearted attempt to reach out his hand and then turned around. No one else gave a shit. It was so surreal.
It's horrible writing. I'm not slamming the whole show, but I am slamming how they handled her character's exit.

Yes, we the audience haven't spent time with her, but the other characters have. Hell, even if she was a stranger to them, who would dismiss her and accept her decision so easily? It doesn't make real-world sense.

I also feel because what little moments we have gotten of these characters (especially T-Dog), makes me wish for more. Maybe we will learn more about the other characters in the next season. I just hope they aren't going out like Jackie did. That's horrible, even for a redshirt.
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post #1805 of 1981
12/7/10 at 11:10pm
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It's horrible writing. I'm not slamming the whole show, but I am slamming how they handled her character's exit.

Yes, we the audience haven't spent time with her, but the other characters have. Hell, even if she was a stranger to them, who would dismiss her and accept her decision so easily? It doesn't make real-world sense.
Fuck that. You have 4 minutes to run down a hall and break out of a building you've been told can't be broken out of. If someone decides at the last second to stick around - fine by me. So fuck that shit. I'm not going to waste another second trying to change your mind.

I will give you that her character was rather pointless. I don't think it would have been any better or worse if she was in that scene or not - or even in the show.
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post #1806 of 1981
12/7/10 at 11:15pm
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Originally Posted by Agent Z
Hell, even if she was a stranger to them, who would dismiss her and accept her decision so easily? It doesn't make real-world sense.
The person who seemed closest to her was the other one who decided to stay.

With the time pressure in place, the only option would've been to pick her up and drag her out... which would've certainly been in-character for at least one of them.
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post #1807 of 1981
12/7/10 at 11:25pm
There was enough time for Dale to guilt Andrea into living. Anyway you slice it, Jackie's death was sloppy.
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post #1808 of 1981
12/7/10 at 11:27pm
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post #1809 of 1981
12/7/10 at 11:32pm
It's not that leaving her there is so thoroughly unbelievable, it's that they shrug at her decision, then when Andrea decides she isn't going either it's "whoa, whoa, whoa, we can't have that!"

They treat Dee better on It's Always Sunny, where its a joke that the rest of the characters don't give a rat's ass about her or her feelings.
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post #1810 of 1981
12/7/10 at 11:43pm
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It's not that leaving her there is so thoroughly unbelievable, it's that they shrug at her decision, then when Andrea decides she isn't going either it's "whoa, whoa, whoa, we can't have that!"

They treat Dee better on It's Always Sunny, where its a joke that the rest of the characters don't give a rat's ass about her or her feelings.
This is true, and that's kind of sad honestly. Lets hope that the change of writers for next season will be an improvement because overall this one had a lot of sloppy writing mixed in with some nuggets of gold.

And Diva that picture is AWESOME! It made me laugh harder than it probably should have.
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post #1811 of 1981
12/8/10 at 12:19am
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And Diva that picture is AWESOME! It made me laugh harder than it probably should have.
Agreed. More please, with Lori, Shane, and... that actor who plays Old Hat Guy with those sad doggie eyes.

But regarding Jacqui (see? I cared about her enough to look up the right spelling!) I'm really of the mind that when the Mother Computer calmly tells me that I have four minutes to reach mi-ni-mum safe distance, pretty much any sudden suicide decisions are other peoples' private affairs that I don't have time to adjust. There was an elevator, remember?

Except with Laurie Holden and Old Hat Guy. There had been a growing arc with those two characters about loss and companionship. Her deciding to stay, him deciding to stay, and both of them deciding to leave together had to happen.

And now he'll get some, which is nice for him. And that'll probably send Shane further over the edge, which is nice for the show.
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post #1812 of 1981
12/8/10 at 12:40am
The idea of Dale and Andrea gettin' busy with each other curdles my innards. Can't even say why. It just does.
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post #1813 of 1981
12/8/10 at 12:50am
The survivors have spent up to six months together. You're telling me that nobody gives two shits whether this woman lives or dies. And even if they think it's her right (after all, they let Jim choose to die on his own terms as well), the scene just came off clunky because of the editing. As Schwartz pointed out, we saw wildly different reactions moments apart from one another. They barely protested when Jacqui wanted to stay and then a moment later they were up in arms over Andrea's decision. The stark contrast was noticeable and does a disservice to Jacqui's arc.

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And Diva that picture is AWESOME! It made me laugh harder than it probably should have.
Ha! I was Googling "Walking Dead crazy eyes" to find a picture of Lori. That woman has permanent surprise face. I came across this and that was it. I lost it. So funny.
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post #1814 of 1981
12/8/10 at 1:12am
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does a disservice to Jacqui's arc.
huh? she had an arc?

Her immolation choice was pretty clumsy but I didn't mind it because it gave them an excuse to ditch the last redshirt in the bunch. I was like finally.
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post #1815 of 1981
12/8/10 at 1:15am
She had a small one with Jim. Maybe that threw her over the edge. She was the one watching him die slowly in the camper. Probably make anyone not believe in living anymore. Still, I can't get over the fact that these people have been surviving for six months together and are acting like they barely know one another.
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post #1816 of 1981
12/8/10 at 1:16am
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The survivors have spent up to six months together.
I've been trying to figure out the timeline. Any indicators? I might have missed them if they happened within 60 seconds of Shane's showerbender.
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post #1817 of 1981
12/8/10 at 1:18am
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I've been trying to figure out the timeline. Any indicators? I might have missed them if they happened within 60 seconds of Shane's showerbender.
Jenner says that its been 193 days, or something to that effect, since the outbreak. It's not clear that all of the survivors have been together for that long, but certainly some of them. And almost everyone several months. I forget the actual range, but Lori mentions Atlanta being overrun X months ago and them taking refuge in the woods.

Lost must be rolling in its grave. "Live together, die alone."
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post #1818 of 1981
12/8/10 at 1:40am
So, um, I gather that I'm like the only one that sometimes, not every day or anything, but sometimes...drinks...in the...shower...





I'll be in my room.
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post #1819 of 1981
12/8/10 at 1:56am
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I'll be in my room.
Is that what you call your shower?
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post #1820 of 1981
12/8/10 at 2:02am
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Originally Posted by Diva
They barely protested when Jacqui wanted to stay and then a moment later they were up in arms over Andrea's decision.
Besides the old guy, who seemed more upset? They were pretty disturbingly accepting of both (all three, really) suicides as I recall.

I suspect my own reaction to such a situation would've been one of two possibilities:

1) Exactly what they did. We've got no time to debate your emo ass. See-ya!
or
2) Hit them over the head and drag them out, then see if their mood improves post-fireball.

I'd probably at least pick #2 for one of them: "Hey science guy, some parts of the world are powered by wind or water, you could be useful." BONK.

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Originally Posted by Schwartz
So, um, I gather that I'm like the only one that sometimes, not every day or anything, but sometimes...drinks...in the...shower...
Hopefully you don't half-fill your bottle with shower water, cuz that's just wrong.

Oh, and contemplating raping your best friend's wife into loving you is wrong, too.
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post #1821 of 1981
12/8/10 at 2:14am
What I contemplate in my room is nobody's business. It is a safe place, a special place where there are no judgments. A clean...

This has gone far enough. How 'bout that redneck decapitation action, eh?
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post #1822 of 1981
12/8/10 at 2:22am
So, I've only watched the first episode and haven't read the comic, but I figured I should jump in because I saw people talking about drinking in the shower (I do). Are episodes the next few episodes worth a watch?
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post #1823 of 1981
12/8/10 at 2:31am
First three are really good. Next three slowly deteriorate into shapeless mush. In my opinion.
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post #1824 of 1981
12/8/10 at 3:00am
My problem with this show isn't that it's necessarily bad, it just has a lot of wasted potential. I still haven't seen the finale, but at this point I'm not sure I care enough about the characters to seek it out.
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post #1825 of 1981
12/8/10 at 4:05am
The only reason they had T-Dog show ANY concern over Jacqui is because they're both black, am I right? If my memory's correct, I think that's the first time he's even spoken to her. The good thing is that most (all?) of the red shirts are gone now. Well, except for the kids. Bonus points if the moppets die spectacularly next season. The show does seem nasty enough to do it.
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post #1826 of 1981
12/8/10 at 4:45am
I don't recall anyone speaking to Jaqui, ever. I mean actually having a conversation with her.

Except for the awesome "I miss my dildo" chat during laundry time.
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post #1827 of 1981
12/8/10 at 8:39am
She did contribute her knowledge of city planning and building layouts back in episode two.
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post #1828 of 1981
12/8/10 at 9:00am
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The only reason they had T-Dog show ANY concern over Jacqui is because they're both black, am I right? If my memory's correct, I think that's the first time he's even spoken to her. The good thing is that most (all?) of the red shirts are gone now. Well, except for the kids. Bonus points if the moppets die spectacularly next season. The show does seem nasty enough to do it.
Didn't he refer to her by some pet name like "baby" or "honey" or something when she decided to stay? I just remember thinking- "They were together? He sure isn't doing much to talk her into coming with."

I really couldn't get on board with this show. Almost everything about it- from the dialogue to the smooshy sound fx every time someone was offed- got on my nerves.
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post #1829 of 1981
12/8/10 at 10:21am
Did I miss some news on the front page or have we been lacking a Finale Tag Team? And Renn's CDC info? I know the CHUD crew is in for major changes this month but just looking I don't see it.
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post #1830 of 1981
12/8/10 at 10:37am
No, I don't think the Tag Team exists yet. If it did, I think it would pop up here:
http://chud.com/articles/categories/Editorial/THUD/
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post #1831 of 1981
12/8/10 at 10:54am
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Didn't he refer to her by some pet name like "baby" or "honey" or something when she decided to stay? I just remember thinking- "They were together? He sure isn't doing much to talk her into coming with."

I really couldn't get on board with this show. Almost everything about it- from the dialogue to the smooshy sound fx every time someone was offed- got on my nerves.
She called him "sweetie". Which isn't necessarily a term of romantic endearment. Or if it is, the old lady at the pizza place by my house definitely wants me.
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post #1832 of 1981
12/8/10 at 11:12am
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She called him "sweetie". Which isn't necessarily a term of romantic endearment. Or if it is, the old lady at the pizza place by my house definitely wants me.
No, it's just the writers fulfilling their "80% of whatever a black woman says on TV must be either motherly or passive" quota.
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post #1833 of 1981
12/8/10 at 11:19am
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huh? she had an arc?

Her immolation choice was pretty clumsy but I didn't mind it because it gave them an excuse to ditch the last redshirt in the bunch. I was like finally.
*mystic Yoda voice* "No, there is another".
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post #1834 of 1981
12/8/10 at 11:30am
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Did I miss some news on the front page or have we been lacking a Finale Tag Team? And Renn's CDC info?
Maybe Renn found something he shouldn't had.
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post #1835 of 1981
12/8/10 at 11:33am
Rick just made a big speech about how Jenner has no right to determine their fates, that they have the right to choose if and how they go on. Wouldn't it be a tad hypocritical for them to then tell Jacqui she can't stay?
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post #1836 of 1981
12/8/10 at 11:35am
You're going way deeper into everyone's motivations than the writers seemingly did.
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post #1837 of 1981
12/8/10 at 11:39am
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Rick just made a big speech about how Jenner has no right to determine their fates, that they have the right to choose if and how they go on. Wouldn't it be a tad hypocritical for them to then tell Jacqui she can't stay?
Only if the next moment they tell Andrea she can't stay. Again, its not the fact that Jacqui wanted to stay. It's that no one cared, and then there was a big show about Andrea making the same decision.

As usual, this isn't an issue about motivations. We all get what the show was trying to do. They just are terrible at execution. It's kinda baffling at how bad they are at executing pretty decent ideas.
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post #1838 of 1981
12/8/10 at 11:49am
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the group have the exact same reaction to Jacqui as Andrea, minus THE GUY THAT'S IN LOVE WITH HER?
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post #1839 of 1981
12/8/10 at 11:52am
Shane's Watery Lament

As the water droplets hit his skin,
Shane knocks back a fifth of gin.
Lori, Lori on his mind.
Washcloth cleans his ear's behind.
He hates when bitches don't turn the lights out.
Now the whole world's lights are out.
...
...

Forest for sex not for rest.
Drunk in the shower
in Jenner's fortress.
World would be better if Rick was dead.
World would be better if Rick was dead.
World would be better if Jacqui was dead, also.

Shower water done splash o'er his face,
washing away the milky moustache...
from his third White Russian.

"Mom a zombie, dad a zombie,
sis a zombie, friends a zombie,
neighbors a zombie, Dr. Sanjay Gupta from CNN a zombie."

He writes this on the shower walls.
With his tears.


He is so damn drunk.
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post #1840 of 1981
12/8/10 at 11:54am
I love you, Matchstick. If you ever decide to incinerate yourself I'll stay with you.
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post #1841 of 1981
12/8/10 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by Ryan C.B. View Post
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the group have the exact same reaction to Jacqui as Andrea, minus THE GUY THAT'S IN LOVE WITH HER?
Bingo.
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post #1842 of 1981
12/8/10 at 11:58am
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Only if the next moment they tell Andrea she can't stay. Again, its not the fact that Jacqui wanted to stay. It's that no one cared, and then there was a big show about Andrea making the same decision.

As usual, this isn't an issue about motivations. We all get what the show was trying to do. They just are terrible at execution. It's kinda baffling at how bad they are at executing pretty decent ideas.
I may be remembering it wrong, but I don't think they "all" said Andrea couldn't stay. And only Dale decided to stick around and try to talk her out of it. Most of them were on their way out the door.
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post #1843 of 1981
12/8/10 at 11:59am
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Did I miss some news on the front page or have we been lacking a Finale Tag Team? And Renn's CDC info? I know the CHUD crew is in for major changes this month but just looking I don't see it.
Today
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post #1844 of 1981
12/8/10 at 12:12pm
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As usual, this isn't an issue about motivations. We all get what the show was trying to do. They just are terrible at execution. It's kinda baffling at how bad they are at executing pretty decent ideas.
This sentiment needs to evolve in some sort of Facebook group. And I hate Facebook.

But you get the point.

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Today
OMG, Kate got to him!
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post #1845 of 1981
12/8/10 at 12:28pm
That was just wonderful, Matchstick. Throughout the whole outbreak, I bet nobody ever thought about Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

Just because I can't resist a me-too post:

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The Lonesome Death of Carol's Fatty

He had a very zealous fist,
Assaulting ladies from The Mist.

She ran his skull through with a truncheon
because he was a zombie luncheon.
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post #1846 of 1981
12/8/10 at 1:34pm
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Shane's Watery Lament
I instantly heard Tom Waits singing this, backed up by a fuzzy electric guitar and a dirty piano.

And, Diva, you really need to re-watch that climax. Ohio is right.

I love the show, warts and all. Bring on the Blu-Ray, which will hopefully make up for a short season with one hour of KNB BTS goodness.

Next year, Daryl loosens up on the racism when he melts from the sight of Michonne katana action! (INVISO-TEXT ADDED, for maximum suspense and spoiler avoidance)
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post #1847 of 1981
12/8/10 at 1:53pm
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I laughed.

Speaking of that guy, what's the verdict on Andrew Lincoln anyway? I'll be there for season two with bells on, but I dunno if he can carry this. And the accent is problematic enough to take me out of the show sometimes.
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post #1848 of 1981
12/8/10 at 3:47pm
He'll be fine if he can settle down on that accent, I think. Easier said than.. said, though.
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post #1849 of 1981
12/8/10 at 3:59pm
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I laughed.

Speaking of that guy, what's the verdict on Andrew Lincoln anyway? I'll be there for season two with bells on, but I dunno if he can carry this. And the accent is problematic enough to take me out of the show sometimes.
His "!!!YOU'RE KILLING US!!!" to the camera outside the closed doors of the CDC was just so amazingly wrong. Just another case of being stranded by the writing. Lincoln is supposed to be great in other things. Hope they add some shades to his character next season.

P.S. Would have been great if they had him reprise that line when Jenner wouldn't open the doors when they were INSIDE the CDC. And then later, when they ran out of gas, he shouted it at the camper.
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post #1850 of 1981
12/8/10 at 4:19pm
Who cares if its one guy or the group? Jacqui and Andrea were literally standing a foot apart during Dale's speech. The message is clear, no one cares whether Jacqui lives or dies. That is fucked up, even if she was a stranger, but she is someone who had been part of their group for several months. You're telling me no one gives a shit enough to turn around to say that they care about her? "They were out the door" makes the scene even worse.
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