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post #1 of 212
6/2/10 at 8:52pm
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Rather than further derail the thread about a black Spiderman, I thought I'd start this thread. I'm not sure if this is the best place to start this (or if MISC CULTURE would be better), but I'm making a go of it anyway. I know we have austism threads (most about Jenny McCarthy) already, but this seems like it's of enough cultural importance these days to warrant it's own thread

What do people think about this supposed syndrome? Do you believe it exists? Do you think it's just a fad?

My answer? It's a big scam. When I was growing up my mom was convinced I had AD-HD. Nearly everyone I went to school with it seemed had an AD HD diagnosis. Now adays I bet you can't find more than a handful of HD-ers. Aspergers has replaces ADHD as the trendy diagnosis of choice for hipster parents who don't want to look at their own parenting as a possible cause for why their kids might be acting out.

Just because you're different does not mean you have a disorder. They should be printing that on t-shirts, because most people still seem to believe the latest musings from the pharmaceutical industrial complex as if they were gospel.
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post #2 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:14pm
Asperger's syndrome is absolutely a real disorder, legitimate concerns with over-diagnosis and the pill-pushing pharmaceutical industrial complex aside.

The only question re: Asperger's legitimacy resides in its categorization as a distinct disorder rather than simply as high-functioning autism. To be honest, those are semantics I don't care about; it is what it is and it's real. W/r/t diagnosis, Asperger's requires far more and far more specific symptoms than say ADHD or OCD and it's treated primarily through behavioral therapy rather than medication--therefore there's really no economic incentive for over-diagnosis among the psychiatric community, as there is for basically every other disorder.

One theory I find interesting (and plausible) is that Asperger's is related to a surplus of natal testosterone; that autism in general is four times more common in men than women supports this.

Like all disorders on the autism spectrum, Asperger's is misunderstood in both symptoms and etiology. But, to be perfectly blunt, it also seems to be misunderstood by you--and to deny its existence is disrespectful to those with any form of autism and the parents of those affected, too.
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post #3 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:19pm
I was diagnosticated with Aspergers at an early age, before it became the new ADD, and yes it is real, but there are levels to it; some cases are really heartbreaking and others (like mine, to a degree) are the "daily medication, therapy and try to lead a normal life" type.
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post #4 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:21pm
You're medicated? I didn't even know you could get medication for Aspergers. Is it like a Beta-Blocka mood deal or something.

Also, fuck you Kate.
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post #5 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:23pm
This will end well.
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post #6 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:23pm
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Originally Posted by Policar View Post
Asperger's syndrome is absolutely a real disorder, legitimate concerns with over-diagnosis and the pill-pushing pharmaceutical industrial complex aside.

The only question re: Asperger's legitimacy resides in its categorization as a distinct disorder rather than simply as high-functioning autism. To be honest, those are semantics I don't care about; it is what it is and it's real. W/r/t diagnosis, Asperger's requires far more and far more specific symptoms than say ADHD or OCD and it's treated primarily through behavioral therapy rather than medication--therefore there's really no economic incentive for over-diagnosis among the psychiatric community, as there is for basically every other disorder.

One theory I find interesting (and plausible) is that Aspergers is related to a surplus of natal testosterone; that autism in general is four times more common in men than women supports this.

Like all disorders on the autism spectrum, Aspergers is misunderstood in both symptoms and etiology. But, to be perfectly blunt, it also seems to be misunderstood by you--and to deny its existence is disrespectful to those with any form of autism and the parents of those affected, too.

I'm curious as to what evidence you have that leads you to believe it's a scam?
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post #7 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:26pm
The girl I dated the last two years of college had Aspergers, which she seemed to identify as the root of all her narcissistic personality disoder/sociopath-like tendencies. I'm not sure if that's one of the 'heartbreaking' examples ryoken is referring to or if she just was an asshole who happened to have Aspergers.
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post #8 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:27pm
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You're medicated? I didn't even know you could get medication for Aspergers. Is it like a Beta-Blocka mood deal or something.

Also, fuck you Kate.
I take Wellbutrin, and was on Lexapro before that; they help, but their main focus is for other problems i have, but they do help a bit; they're part of an overall treatment.
For example, my therapist convinced me to get a dog, and it did wonders for me to become more empathic and emotional, so to speak.
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post #9 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:29pm
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I'm curious as to what evidence you have that leads you to believe it's a scam?
I hope you accidentally quoted the wrong post; otherwise, re-read what I wrote.

Fwiw, I do think some other disorders, particularly ADHD, are over-diagnosed.
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post #10 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:31pm
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The girl I dated the last two years of college had Aspergers, which she seemed to identify as the root of all her narcissistic personality disoder/sociopath-like tendencies. I'm not sure if that's one of the 'heartbreaking' examples ryoken is referring to or if she just was an asshole who happened to have Aspergers.
if she was a raging cunt with issues, I doubt she had Aspergers.
But if she had trouble being emotional, having to share or see your point of view, wasnt very open or natural with sexual contact and had a very closeted lifestyle, then she probably did have it.
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post #11 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:32pm
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This will end well.
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post #12 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:32pm
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Originally Posted by Policar View Post
I hope you accidentally quoted the wrong post; otherwise, re-read what I wrote.

Fwiw, I do think some other disorders, particularly ADHD, are over-diagnosed.
They are used as a twisted "Occam's razor" to deal with children or teenagers problems, if you ask me.
Its an easy way out for parents and society as whole.
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post #13 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:33pm
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Originally Posted by ryoken View Post
But if she had trouble being emotional, having to share or see your point of view, wasnt very open or natural with sexual contact and had a very closeted lifestyle, then she probably did have it.
Outside of the sex that fits Princess Wiki to a T.
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post #14 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:35pm
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Originally Posted by ryoken View Post
if she was a raging cunt with issues, I doubt she had Aspergers.
But if she had trouble being emotional, having to share or see your point of view, wasnt very open or natural with sexual contact and had a very closeted lifestyle, then she probably did have it.
She was kind of a combo of the two. Very closed down and cautious and would get sort of enraged when I'd try to bring it up or cross those kinds of boundries.
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post #15 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:35pm
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Originally Posted by TzuDohNihm View Post
Outside of the sex that fits Princess Wiki to a T.
I'd say she probably had it to a medium or low degree.
Here's an example: Was it a pain in the butt to explain things to her or having her accompany you to events/things she wasnt interested in but you were?
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post #16 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:39pm
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Originally Posted by ryoken View Post
I'd say she probably had it to a medium or low degree.
Here's an example: Was it a pain in the butt to explain things to her or having her accompany you to events/things she wasnt interested in but you were?
Yes. Yes. This was a problem. She was always very uncomfortable with committing to an event beyond "Maybe" and I think she met my friends and family a grand total of two times.
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post #17 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:43pm
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
Yes. Yes. This was a problem. She was always very uncomfortable with committing to an event beyond "Maybe" and I think she met my friends and family a grand total of two times.
She most probably had it then.
She simply was unable to see how important that was for you, but not intentionally; she simply lacked the ability to put herself in your place.
This is the same reason i've never been involved in a serious relationship; it takes me a LOT of effort to behave correctly in those cases, and i have a medium case of this.
The truly heartbreaking cases are on Hikikomori level; peopel who just refuse to interact with others period and barely step outside of their physical/emotiona bubble they can control.
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post #18 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:49pm
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Originally Posted by ryoken View Post
She most probably had it then.
She simply was unable to see how important that was for you, but not intentionally; she simply lacked the ability to put herself in your place.
This is the same reason i've never been involved in a serious relationship; it takes me a LOT of effort to behave correctly in those cases, and i have a medium case of this.
The truly heartbreaking cases are on Hikikomori level; peopel who just refuse to interact with others period and barely step outside of their physical/emotiona bubble they can control.
Thanks for the clarification. She never, ever would talk about it, so it's been something I've been grappling with for a bit, especially because she keeps coming in and out of my life. I've never been able to understand how she can claim that I'm very important to her and treat me the way she does. Because of my background, I don't really take being treated poorly well ... so, yeah, I guess that was walking into a psychological brier patch.
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post #19 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:50pm
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Also, fuck you Kate.
There are new rules. Start your farewell thread, bub.
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post #20 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:50pm
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Originally Posted by Feral Akodon View Post
There are new rules. Start your farewell thread, bub.
Eh, if it happens it happens. It had to be said.
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post #21 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:56pm
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
Rather than further derail the thread about a black Spiderman, I thought I'd start this thread. I'm not sure if this is the best place to start this (or if MISC CULTURE would be better), but I'm making a go of it anyway. I know we have austism threads (most about Jenny McCarthy) already, but this seems like it's of enough cultural importance these days to warrant it's own thread

What do people think about this supposed syndrome? Do you believe it exists? Do you think it's just a fad?

My answer? It's a big scam. When I was growing up my mom was convinced I had AD-HD. Nearly everyone I went to school with it seemed had an AD HD diagnosis. Now adays I bet you can't find more than a handful of HD-ers. Aspergers has replaces ADHD as the trendy diagnosis of choice for hipster parents who don't want to look at their own parenting as a possible cause for why their kids might be acting out.

Just because you're different does not mean you have a disorder. They should be printing that on t-shirts, because most people still seem to believe the latest musings from the pharmaceutical industrial complex as if they were gospel.
IMHO, so many doctors I've gone too, are willing to perscribe anything. I went in to a doctor cause I was having anxiety problems. I went into how I lost my job, and how me and my wife were about to split and I was concerned about my son. He said I was bipolar? So I got put on all these meds for it. Funny how after I got a new job, and me and the wifey worked things out, my "bipolar" problem went away.
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post #22 of 212
6/2/10 at 9:59pm
You went to a terrible doctor.
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post #23 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:01pm
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You went to a terrible doctor.
he was so eager to say "bipolar"... it was nuts. The meds made me feel stoned the whole time. All I wanted was some type of vallum to ease my anxiety.
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post #24 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:10pm
My cousin has Asperger's, among other disorders. Before she was diagnosed she was pretty terrible to be around. She had frequent fits if her routine, which consisted of socially isolating herself and being obsessed with minutia, was interrupted. She was misdiagnosed and put on all sorts of meds that didn't work and just made her, and those around her, miserable. She was correctly diagnosed when she was almost out of high school and has found a way to be productive member of society via meds and behavioral therapy, specifically art therapy. She is so connected to art, she has recently gone to college to get a degree as an art therapist, and paints in her free time. Her art work recently won an award for artists with disabilities.
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post #25 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:12pm
A productive member of society?
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post #26 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:13pm
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This will end well.
Yeah. No good can come of this. Yet weirdly here we'll be watching the trainwreck. Popcorn, Joey?
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post #27 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:16pm
It definitely is real, but as has been said, it can be difficult to properly diagnose, especially considering that it doesn't really effect any two people in the exact same way. There are underlying similarities between those with the disorder, but they can manifest in very different ways.

I was diagnosed with it, but not until I was 17. Part of that has to do with general awareness and acceptance of the disorder (it also has to do with being aware at a young age that I somehow didn't function socially like other kids and tried to hide it for a long time). It wasn't officially recognized as a diagnosis in America until about five years prior to my diagnosis. This sort of thing probably accounts for why there have been so many more cases of the condition in recent years.
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post #28 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:21pm
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A productive member of society?
Why is this a shocking sentence? She can hold down a job, has an apartment on her own, and is not completely dependent on her parents. Something that she will admit was not a likely scenario before her diagnosis.
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post #29 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:23pm
It's just you paint people with Aspergers as helpless, worthless, people, when within elements of the spectrum it doesn't affect the intellect, just the social processing. It's like 'wow, the retard got a job. Ain't that something'.
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post #30 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:25pm
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Originally Posted by HANDSOME MARXIST-LENINIST View Post
You can thank the pharmaceutical industry for that.
I also blame the doctors. besides maybe getting something for anxiety, I was hoping for a refferal to a shrink, just so I could have someone to talk to about all the shit I was going through, but the doctor wanted me to keep on coming to see him
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post #31 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:32pm
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It's just you paint people with Aspergers as helpless, worthless, people, when within elements of the spectrum it doesn't affect the intellect, just the social processing. It's like 'wow, the retard got a job. Ain't that something'.
Really? Where did I say any of that? Many jobs require you to socially interact with people. She was not able to do that, even with her own family. Now she can. I never said she intellectually incapable. Me thinks you are projecting.
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post #32 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:37pm
No it's just a cultural thing. You ask any person who is high functioning but on the autistic spectrum and you'll get the same response, that as soon as people find out about your 'condition' your patronised to hell. Like because someone is autistic they're incapable of looking after themselves, incapable of providing for themselves. It's just a horrible fucking cliche.

Aspergers makes me mad, I hate when people use autistic or aspergers as an insult against people and I hate when people take the piss out of the condition. It's something that just gets under my skin, I read Devin's article today on the fan reaction to a black Spider-Man with gritted teeth because he used Aspergian to describe the fan reaction. It's like as soon as your diagnosed with it you can't fight against, can have opinions of your own, you're just an aspy and should join the fleeds of the world.
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post #33 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:47pm
No one is patronizing here. Read what I say and stop projecting the Devin's of the world in my post.
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post #34 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:49pm
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Aspergers makes me mad, I hate when people use autistic or aspergers as an insult against people and I hate when people take the piss out of the condition. It's something that just gets under my skin, I read Devin's article today on the fan reaction to a black Spider-Man with gritted teeth because he used Aspergian to describe the fan reaction. It's like as soon as your diagnosed with it you can't fight against, can have opinions of your own, you're just an aspy and should join the fleeds of the world.
I sort of agree with you here. It might not necessarily anger me all the time, but it does disappoint me to see Aspergers used in this sort of context. While there probably is some overlap, there is a definite difference between people with Aspergers and obsessive fanboys. This might be overgeneralizing, but you could think of it as the former are unable to see things a certain way, while the latter refuse to see things a different way.
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post #35 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:49pm
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Since other people have already opened up, I will try to go into depth on some of my feelings about this issue. Though first I will stipulate that I tried to discuss this when I first joined the board and people like Tzu proceeded to call me 'Princess Aspergers' for thr next six months. That is really not cool and I won't tolerate it

I guess I should start by saying that from the time I was in first grade till my sophmore year of highschool, my mom was having doctors give me every pill you can imagine. Not one of which ever improved my life by any perceptible measure, it's important to note.*What did I do to warrant this? Nothing, as far as I can remember. I socialized well, did well in school and didn't get into alot of trouble. Yet from a young age my mom was telling me that there was something wrong *with me and that I was not normal, putting me through countless tests and such. It wasn't till I got older that I began to understand that it was my *mom* who was suffering from mental problems. Without going into it, she has severe issues, and any percieved problems of mine can more than be explained by her unbalanced perspective and unbalanced parenting.

I *know* I am intelligent. I know I am capable. There is nothing wrong with me and the implication that I suffer from this absurd disorder is deeply hurtful. I think people are just all different. Unless you can show me a difference between aspergers' braintissue and non aspergers' brain tissue , I am going to call it made up. To suggest that I have a disorder is to say that there is an ideal way the human mind should work and my brain is wired the wrong way. IMHO: Wrong, it is normal genetic variation. People are wired different ways so that thr species can adapt and survive. It's as if *psychologists never bothered to consider how evolutionary biology might apply *to their "science" **
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post #36 of 212
6/2/10 at 10:58pm
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
I *know* I am intelligent. I know I am capable. There is nothing wrong with me and the implication that I suffer from this absurd disorder is deeply hurtful. I think people are just all different.
Maybe you should stop, think, try to distance yourself from your own hurt feelings and try to realize how deeply hurtful it can be for someone suffering from this to read what you just wrote.

If you can't do that, then maybe your lack of empathy demonstrates you actually should get checked out, regardless of what you unfortunately went through with your mom.
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post #37 of 212
6/2/10 at 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
Since other people have already opened up, I will try to go into depth on some of my feelings about this issue. Though first I will stipulate that I tried to discuss this when I first joined the board and people like Tzu proceeded to call me 'Princess Aspergers' for thr next six months. That is really not cool and I won't tolerate it

I guess I should start by saying that from the time I was in first grade till my sophmore year of highschool, my mom was having doctors give me every pill you can imagine. Not one of which ever improved my life by any perceptible measure, it's important to note.*What did I do to warrant this? Nothing, as far as I can remember. I socialized well, did well in school and didn't get into alot of trouble. Yet from a young age my mom was telling me that there was something wrong *with me and that I was not normal, putting me through countless tests and such. It wasn't till I got older that I began to understand that it was my *mom* who was suffering from mental problems. Without going into it, she has severe issues, and any percieved problems of mine can more than be explained by her unbalanced perspective and unbalanced parenting.

I *know* I am intelligent. I know I am capable. There is nothing wrong with me and the implication that I suffer from this absurd disorder is deeply hurtful. I think people are just all different. Unless you can show me a difference between aspergers' braintissue and non aspergers' brain tissue , I am going to call it made up. To suggest that I have a disorder is to say that there is an ideal way the human mind should work and my brain is wired the wrong way. IMHO: Wrong, it is normal genetic variation. People are wired different ways so that thr species can adapt and survive. It's as if *psychologists never bothered to consider how evolutionary biology might apply *to their "science" **
You know what I call this? Talking out of your ass. There are people who have literally spent their lifetime studying issues relating to Aspergers and Autism disorders and you pontificate as if you knew something about the topic?

It offends me when people speak out of turn like this and just state their opinion without any foundation other than their personal experience. Frankly, it's part-and-parcel of what's wrong with this country. It's the same attitude that allows people to talk about complicated issues like the environment, the economy, health care, etc. as if they knew something and their opinion matter because they read a New Yorker article. Guess what? You have no clue what you're talking about and you should let people who have an expertise in this area deal with it.

Sorry for the minor derail.
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post #38 of 212
6/2/10 at 11:01pm
You diagnose your mom with severe mental problems within fifty words of denying the existence of mental disorders.

Fascinating.
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post #39 of 212
6/2/10 at 11:02pm
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
Since other people have already opened up, I will try to go into depth on some of my feelings about this issue. Though first I will stipulate that I tried to discuss this when I first joined the board and people like Tzu proceeded to call me 'Princess Aspergers' for thr next six months. That is really not cool and I won't tolerate it

I guess I should start by saying that from the time I was in first grade till my sophmore year of highschool, my mom was having doctors give me every pill you can imagine. Not one of which ever improved my life by any perceptible measure, it's important to note.*What did I do to warrant this? Nothing, as far as I can remember. I socialized well, did well in school and didn't get into alot of trouble. Yet from a young age my mom was telling me that there was something wrong *with me and that I was not normal, putting me through countless tests and such. It wasn't till I got older that I began to understand that it was my *mom* who was suffering from mental problems. Without going into it, she has severe issues, and any percieved problems of mine can more than be explained by her unbalanced perspective and unbalanced parenting.

I *know* I am intelligent. I know I am capable. There is nothing wrong with me and the implication that I suffer from this absurd disorder is deeply hurtful. I think people are just all different. Unless you can show me a difference between aspergers' braintissue and non aspergers' brain tissue , I am going to call it made up. To suggest that I have a disorder is to say that there is an ideal way the human mind should work and my brain is wired the wrong way. IMHO: Wrong, it is normal genetic variation. People are wired different ways so that thr species can adapt and survive. It's as if *psychologists never bothered to consider how evolutionary biology might apply *to their "science" **
But by that reasoning you should deny the existence of every other neurological disorder we haven't gained a good understanding of yet and chock them all up to people just being different. Alzheimer's or Tourette's, for instance.
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post #40 of 212
6/2/10 at 11:11pm
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I 'spoke out of turn'? I forgot I needed to submit the proper forms before I was entitled to an opinion of my own. Sorry if I offended you (only honestly I am really not *that* sorry. You completely misinterpret what I had to say) with my own take on the issue

I am sorry I am not as comfortable as others with the idea of chalking up all my problems to a 'syndrome'.

PS: Sorry if that was 'out of turn'
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post #41 of 212
6/2/10 at 11:23pm
To anyone that does not believe Aspergers is a legitimate condition, please watch the documentary "Billy the Kid." I don't think the individual studied in the film was faking his condition to get noticed.

And if someone is offended that people are consistently under the belief that they display multiple autistic symptoms, it would probably be beneficial for that individual to take their advice to heart and seek help (through a medical expert), or attempt to change the way they are perceived by people.
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post #42 of 212
6/2/10 at 11:30pm
I worked 80 hour weeks with a woman who was diagnosed later in life with Aspergers (like in her 40s). Her family was absolutely awful and never acknowledged it and just treated her as quirky. It was pretty terrible to watch from an emotional standpoint.

It was also very frustrating to work so closely with her before I knew about her diagnosis. Once I learned that she couldn't really help it and I started researching Aspergers it became much easier.

It's led me to be very...protective? of the condition. Which means I frequently want to punch self diagnosed internet nerds in the face.

But man that woman. She'd get into huge shouting matches with her son because that's the only way she knew to communicate. He'd shout back because he was a jerk.

But a bonus of Aspergers? That lady made one hell of a contracts lawyer.
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post #43 of 212
6/2/10 at 11:39pm
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Look, I guess that some people have certain symptoms that have been labled as part of this aspergers thing. I do not deny that some people might struggle with issues. I have issues. But I do not accept the notion that I suffer from a 'syndrome', and basically I am very agitated about that. I also think that at least 50% of the people who have cropped up in the past few years claiming to have aspergers are just people looking for excuses to be fuck ups. If your disorder is for real, no need to be offended since you can claim membership in the other 50% ok?
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post #44 of 212
6/2/10 at 11:42pm
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
I 'spoke out of turn'? I forgot I needed to submit the proper forms before I was entitled to an opinion of my own.
You're entitled to an opinion.

When everyone else sees how ill-informed and internally contradictory your opinion is they're also entitled to think your opinion is fucking retarded.
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post #45 of 212
6/2/10 at 11:46pm
Kate, look, I have nothing against you, and I'm pretty sure that I've never bad mouthed you here, but you have nearly 7,000 posts here and you've only been posting since Aug 2009. You may not have Aspergers, but that says something...

Also, you're disproportionate anger at this term might mean something too. What? Hell I don't know, but you seem to be taking this way too personal.
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post #46 of 212
6/3/10 at 12:04am
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
I've not seen any of those other films besides AATK but the role CYF had in that film was that of a historical figure of asian descent. I'm talking about when you see a hollywood action film with an asian (as in, an action film not set in asia), he's usually a ninja. Like Jet Li as the bad guy in LW4. He wasn't just a bad guy who was asian, he was an asian ninja.

I know my own brain. I don't need to publish a paper to know that I've not been afflicted with an illusory 'syndrome'.
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I know I'm being very very loose with the definition of Ninja. For my purposes, Ninja means any asian who fights with martial arts.

Like Donnie Yen in BLADE 2.
So, what does that make Shaq?

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post #47 of 212
6/3/10 at 12:11am
I think you got the two threads mixed up there Forsaken. But I'm not complaining - any reference to Shaq-Fu is appreciated at all times by me.
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post #48 of 212
6/3/10 at 1:06am
I'm waiting for Kate to attack depression as a faux disease.

Once she does that, then I'll respond.
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post #49 of 212
6/3/10 at 1:23am
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Originally Posted by Pompoussory Estoppel View Post
I'm waiting for Kate to attack depression as a faux disease.

Once she does that, then I'll respond.
I think unless you can show her a difference between braintissue suffering from clinical depression and non-depressed brain tissue, she is going to call it made up.
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post #50 of 212
6/3/10 at 1:32am
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
Rather than further derail the thread about a black Spiderman, I thought I'd start this thread. I'm not sure if this is the best place to start this (or if MISC CULTURE would be better), but I'm making a go of it anyway. I know we have austism threads (most about Jenny McCarthy) already, but this seems like it's of enough cultural importance these days to warrant it's own thread

What do people think about this supposed syndrome? Do you believe it exists? Do you think it's just a fad?

My answer? It's a big scam. When I was growing up my mom was convinced I had AD-HD. Nearly everyone I went to school with it seemed had an AD HD diagnosis. Now adays I bet you can't find more than a handful of HD-ers. Aspergers has replaces ADHD as the trendy diagnosis of choice for hipster parents who don't want to look at their own parenting as a possible cause for why their kids might be acting out.

Just because you're different does not mean you have a disorder. They should be printing that on t-shirts, because most people still seem to believe the latest musings from the pharmaceutical industrial complex as if they were gospel.
Why is autism real to you and Asperger's is not? What exactly is your medical expertise on the subject?
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