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post #201 of 212
6/4/10 at 3:40am
Not really wanting to step into this...mudhole, but a great novel that deals with Asperger's in a way I found helpful to my own understanding is Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time. It's funny, it's bright, but because the narrator is the one with Asperger's it can bring great insight.
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post #202 of 212
6/4/10 at 4:13am
I had never even heard of Aspergers till this thread....

first, people with actual disorders or whatnot deserve as much support as possible to help themselves live full and productive lives.


anyway, this thread makes me think of that old joke

'I used to think I had Mono...turns out I'm just really lazy'
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post #203 of 212
6/4/10 at 6:27am
I don't think anyone meant to cast Aspergians on people's problems in this thread.

I'll go now.
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post #204 of 212
6/4/10 at 4:28pm
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Really?





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Basically I was not being clear enough in my first post and I left too much room for interpretation and in turn that held the door open for people to develope hurt feelings

Anyway, For the record, I think that there are people who suffer from conditions and such that are considered to fall under the asperger's umbrella. I just also am doubtful about the idea that asperger's "syndrome" is a real thing. This does not mean that I am trying to marginalize any struggles you face in your day to day life. I hope that clarifies the difference as far as I'm concerned

PS While I don't think I'm "in denial" about anything, I felt that JGB had a very classy post and I'd urge everyone to consider what he had to say. As someone who at least deals with some of the same issues that hte asperger's 'syndrome' people do, I'd have hoped to find a small modicum of sympathy for my situation.
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post #205 of 212
6/4/10 at 5:08pm
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Anyway, For the record, I think that there are people who suffer from conditions and such that are considered to fall under the asperger's umbrella. I just also am doubtful about the idea that asperger's "syndrome" is a real thing. This does not mean that I am trying to marginalize any struggles you face in your day to day life. I hope that clarifies the difference as far as I'm concerned
I probably shouldn't drag this out any longer than it already has, but it seems like you're not understanding what a "syndrome" is. One day, Dr. Asperger noticed that certain kinds of behavioral issues in children tended to go hand-in-hand. Ta da! Syndrome. It's a collection of related symptoms and conditions. I'm not seeing how you can concede that people genuinely have these issues but be skeptical of the "syndrome," it seems like it's completely semantic. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
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post #206 of 212
6/4/10 at 5:14pm
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I probably shouldn't drag this out any longer than it already has, but it seems like you're not understanding what a "syndrome" is. One day, Dr. Asperger noticed that certain kinds of behavioral issues in children tended to go hand-in-hand. Ta da! Syndrome. It's a collection of related symptoms and conditions. I'm not seeing how you can concede that people genuinely have these issues but be skeptical of the "syndrome," it seems like it's completely semantic. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
I don't like the fact that most people (apparently unlike yourself) think that a "syndrome"= a disease. That a syndrome is some sort of force or identifiable thing, and not a grouping of symptoms.
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post #207 of 212
6/16/10 at 11:59am
The animated film Mary and Max is all about a man that suffer's with Aspergers. I heartily recommend watching that film. It's solid gold. Funny, touching and very informative on the subject.
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post #208 of 212
6/17/10 at 1:36pm
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If aspergers is so serious why don't they call it 'menengitis'?
Maybe Aspergers would be seen less of a stigma, if it didn't sound like "Ass Burgers". Why not "Autism Lite"?
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anyway, this thread makes me think of that old joke

'I used to think I had Mono...turns out I'm just really lazy'
Steven Wright:
"I once thought I had mono for an entire year. Turns out, I was just really bored."

In all seriousness, my 12 year old nephew is diagnosed with Aspergers. What a battle this kid has had. His school principal doesn't believe in the condition and has enforced strict discipline for the times he's had meltdowns or has "acted out". Like being forced to stand in a corner until he's wet himself. The poor kid still sucks his thumb at 12. And despite his inability to grasp that his blunt comments are rude and despite his uber-frustration when he makes mistakes, he can be a sweet kid. He's talented in art (super focused) and loves animals.

I sincerely feel for him and hope he can overcome this stuff.
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The animated film Mary and Max is all about a man that suffer's with Aspergers. I heartily recommend watching that film. It's solid gold. Funny, touching and very informative on the subject.
http://www.maryandmax.com/
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post #209 of 212
6/17/10 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
Steven Wright:
"I once thought I had mono for an entire year. Turns out, I was just really bored."
Or Mike Myers in Wayne's World?
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post #210 of 212
6/17/10 at 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
Maybe Aspergers would be seen less of a stigma, if it didn't sound like "Ass Burgers". Why not "Autism Lite"?


Steven Wright:
"I once thought I had mono for an entire year. Turns out, I was just really bored."

In all seriousness, my 12 year old nephew is diagnosed with Aspergers. What a battle this kid has had. His school principal doesn't believe in the condition and has enforced strict discipline for the times he's had meltdowns or has "acted out". Like being forced to stand in a corner until he's wet himself. The poor kid still sucks his thumb at 12. And despite his inability to grasp that his blunt comments are rude and despite his uber-frustration when he makes mistakes, he can be a sweet kid. He's talented in art (super focused) and loves animals.

I sincerely feel for him and hope he can overcome this stuff.

http://www.maryandmax.com/
OK, so, someone needs to fire the principal. And/or bring charges.
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post #211 of 212
6/17/10 at 3:37pm
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OK, so, someone needs to fire the principal. And/or bring charges.
My sister-in-law sued the school for a series of issues, not including unfulfilled promises to acquire extra help/programs for him (he's currently integrated). She's got a sympathetic lawyer who has a child with a similar condition. I'm not sure about all the ins and outs, but some progress was made. I believe the excuse given was that my nephew had been forgotten. And due to his Aspergers, my nephew struggles with communicating his needs and wanting to avoid trouble, failed to ask if he could go to the lavatory.

Because they have all their special-needs kids integrated, he was actually kicked out of the school for his disruptive behavior and home-schooled for a few years. My sister-in-law, who is actually a practicing counselor now (just received her Masters) worked with him during that time and was able to better equip him for public school. He's back in, but they still struggle with legal issues and a lack of understanding/willingness from the faculty.
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post #212 of 212
6/22/10 at 12:34am
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My sister-in-law sued the school for a series of issues, not including unfulfilled promises to acquire extra help/programs for him (he's currently integrated). She's got a sympathetic lawyer who has a child with a similar condition. I'm not sure about all the ins and outs, but some progress was made. I believe the excuse given was that my nephew had been forgotten. And due to his Aspergers, my nephew struggles with communicating his needs and wanting to avoid trouble, failed to ask if he could go to the lavatory.

Because they have all their special-needs kids integrated, he was actually kicked out of the school for his disruptive behavior and home-schooled for a few years. My sister-in-law, who is actually a practicing counselor now (just received her Masters) worked with him during that time and was able to better equip him for public school. He's back in, but they still struggle with legal issues and a lack of understanding/willingness from the faculty.
Christ, sounds like the Middle School I went to. Is it in an area with a lot of upper-middle or high class kids? When I was in sixth grade, the special ed teacher there I was supposed to go to for any extra help told me I had to stop using my disability for sympathy. I'm shocked I never went Columbine there.
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