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post #101 of 198
6/24/10 at 9:36pm
It's my roommate's. I'm just curious how nice the video chat runs. The phone seems pretty great to me (the hi res screen is way better than I expected, very impressive) but between it being on ATT and their new usage policies, I'm sticking with Verizon and hoping they get the iPhone some day.

... and yeah, both need to be on wifi.
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post #102 of 198
6/24/10 at 11:48pm
I missed out. My wife never got a chance to even try anywhere today, and I didn't have the resources to. Stopped by both Apple stores on my way home from the airport around 6:30 PM, and both stores had like 75 people or so still in line, presumably all pre-orders. Crazy. I'll just have my wife try again at the AT&T store on Tuesday. If that doesn't work out, I guess I'll just order one online.
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post #103 of 198
6/25/10 at 2:31am
This goddamn thing is great.
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post #104 of 198
6/25/10 at 10:50am
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Originally Posted by MoonBaseNick View Post
Is there any other reason to own a different smart phone?
Lots of reasons, actually. But I am happy for everyone who got and is loving their new iPhone. Looks snazzy.
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post #105 of 198
6/25/10 at 11:07am
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Originally Posted by Martianman View Post
I missed out. My wife never got a chance to even try anywhere today, and I didn't have the resources to. Stopped by both Apple stores on my way home from the airport around 6:30 PM, and both stores had like 75 people or so still in line, presumably all pre-orders. Crazy. I'll just have my wife try again at the AT&T store on Tuesday. If that doesn't work out, I guess I'll just order one online.
My wife did not pre-order, so she was in the first come first serve line for 12 fucking hours. The Apple people in Indianapolis where spending up to 20 min with each customer setting their phone up for them. it was horrible, thankfully water and snack were handed out and the weather was great.




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Originally Posted by Micah Robinson View Post
Lots of reasons, actually. But I am happy for everyone who got and is loving their new iPhone. Looks snazzy.
Oh I know :-P A buddy of mine has the droid and it's cool as hell. It's the phone I'll be using if I was still with Verizon. The iphone is snazzy as hell, I can't get my until January but at that point I might as well wait for the newer phone that will be out that June. I'm really curious to see how Netflix works. Thankfully my wife and I are on the old data plan..thank god. that new plan they have in place now is all stupid as hell.
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post #106 of 198
6/25/10 at 11:13am
My droid was wretched. Randomly deleted contacts, randomly deleted MMS messages, the PHONE app would crash...I am so glad to be done with it. Especially in light of the revelation this week that 1 in 5 android apps exposes the information stored on your phone to third parties. Fun!

As far as the data plan goes, I kept my unlimited plan but I have no problem with the 2 gig cap, particularly since it's cheaper. 2 gigs of data on a phone is a LOT. And, practically speaking, you were always capped at around 5 gigs.
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post #107 of 198
6/25/10 at 11:16am
I won the Best Buy lottery so I was in and out in five minutes. I went by the Apple store where I preordered and it was madness. The walk-up line was a third shorter than the reservations line and they were letting 2 walk-up people in for every 3 reservations people. I asked a guy coming out how long it took and he said 4 hours. Brutal.

I just want to get the bumper and a new case for my wife's 3G (that'll make her feel better until she can upgrade in February).
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post #108 of 198
6/25/10 at 11:17am
The bumper is pretty slick! I was surprised...it'll be the first iphone case I've ever purchased.
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post #109 of 198
6/25/10 at 12:36pm
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Originally Posted by The LD View Post
My droid was wretched. Randomly deleted contacts, randomly deleted MMS messages, the PHONE app would crash...I am so glad to be done with it. Especially in light of the revelation this week that 1 in 5 android apps exposes the information stored on your phone to third parties. Fun!

As far as the data plan goes, I kept my unlimited plan but I have no problem with the 2 gig cap, particularly since it's cheaper. 2 gigs of data on a phone is a LOT. And, practically speaking, you were always capped at around 5 gigs.
I use wireless so much I rarely crack 100 MB on my current 3G. So the 200MB for 15 bucks is awesome. For me.
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post #110 of 198
6/25/10 at 1:06pm
Thread Starter 
This a really sweet phone. I do use quite a bit of data though using Pandora and GPS toys while in the car.
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post #111 of 198
6/25/10 at 1:15pm
I'm still pretty happy with my Nexus One. At first I was tempted to get the iPhone 4, but I really didn't want to deal with AT&T.

Now with this antenna issue I'm hearing about, I think I can find the strength to wait another year. I'm hoping that this will teach Apple not to be so secretive with their phones; if this had been more extensively previewed someone might have noticed this sooner.
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post #112 of 198
6/25/10 at 2:59pm
I guess I don't blame Jason Bateman, but what a dick move:

http://www.wwtdd.com/2010/06/hollywo...tter-than-you/
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post #113 of 198
6/25/10 at 3:06pm
It's not his fault some star-struck Apple Store employee pulled him out of the line.

Besides, starring in a much beloved, short-lived TV show has to get you some perks in this life.
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post #114 of 198
6/25/10 at 3:07pm
It looks like he was just more then willing to wait in line....haha but if my wife and I were offered this, you bet your ass we would have done it.
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post #115 of 198
6/25/10 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by The LD View Post
My droid was wretched. Randomly deleted contacts, randomly deleted MMS messages, the PHONE app would crash...I am so glad to be done with it. Especially in light of the revelation this week that 1 in 5 android apps exposes the information stored on your phone to third parties. Fun!
Yeah... Except that it turned out to be bullshit.

CNET retracts article on Android app privacy threat
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post #116 of 198
6/25/10 at 3:24pm
Ok, so my droid was a piece of shit that only occasionally offered total scam applications. Either way, I'm thrilled to be rid of it.
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post #117 of 198
6/25/10 at 4:57pm
Steve Jobs never fails to be a dick - http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/...ex.html?hpt=C1
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post #118 of 198
6/25/10 at 5:12pm
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Steve Jobs never fails to be a dick - http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/...ex.html?hpt=C1
I don't give a shit how buggy your DROID was LD, that company is fucked up.
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post #119 of 198
6/25/10 at 7:09pm
after the 4.0 update, does anyone notice how more "sensitive" the keys are when you're typing.
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post #120 of 198
6/26/10 at 2:25am
I was talking to a guy at a Radio Shack today, who said they didn't even get any iPhones and that they didn't pre-order, they "pre-requested" the phone. Which meant they could request 20 phones, but might just get 1 or none (as they did). He said only 2-3 Radio Shacks in the entire Atlanta area got phones.

He said it might be a blessing in disguise that I didn't get a phone on day one...that a few weeks might be long enough to see if there are any major bugs/issues, and that I could still decide to wait and see, and maybe even decided to switch to Sprint or Verizon. My wife and I were discussing it tonight, and she was hinting at the Sprint, so we could use the WiFi abilities. So we'll see.
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post #121 of 198
6/26/10 at 4:50am
I'm writing this on my new phone. I've had to be fairly cryptic in this thread, but I do work for apple and this phone was my gift to myself for working a goddamn 18 hour day yesterday. So far, I am totally in love. Wave goodbye verizon, you'll never see me again, at least until were all on LTE.
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post #122 of 198
6/26/10 at 7:45pm
Yeah, posting from my phone, too. Two days in and I have no major issues. I've noticed the dropped bars thing when I touch the lower left corner.

This is my first iPhone...what are my must-have apps?
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post #123 of 198
6/26/10 at 8:00pm
Ouch, sorry you got screwed over with the new data plan Matt. Plants vs Zombies is fun as hell.
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post #124 of 198
6/29/10 at 2:02pm
Wife just called...SCORE! Since we just got her an iPhone a month or so ago, she called the AT&T rep back that we bought her phone from, and she kept a new one under the counter for her. She said she walked into the AT&T store, just as they told a group of 25 or so people that they were sold out, and she said they were all highly pissed. She walked over to the rep and said, "You've got mine, right?" to which she said, "Oh, I've got you covered."

Bad part? I'm still in Roanoke, so I have to wait until Friday to activate it. Plus, they changed my data plan over already, so I have no internet connectivity on my current phone anymore. Oh, and I found out that even though I had an unlimited plan with my current phone (Nokia E71x), they won't grandfather me to an unlimited plan with the iPhone. Dicks.
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post #125 of 198
7/7/10 at 4:00pm
Even Apple support is pretty much mocking the "it's the software" excuse. While speaking to a rep about my wife's 3G, which went blank, I added and they said "well, right now we are going with 'it's a software issue.'"
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post #126 of 198
7/8/10 at 2:33am
My iPhone 4 with its super duper scratch resistant glass screen that I've babied and maybe put it my pocket once or twice with nothing else has about an inch long line on it that can (thankfully) only be seen from a certain angle.
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post #127 of 198
7/8/10 at 3:23pm
Thread Starter 
That's why investing in screenprotectors saves headaches. I even cut up the static plastic in the iPhone box to cover it for the few days I had to wait for the screen protectors to arrive. It's sad though that I have to dedicate a pocket to the phone though just to make sure.
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post #128 of 198
7/9/10 at 1:01am
Yeah I have gotten one when I got the phone but they didn't have any at the apple store of course and none of the others I looked at had particularly good reviews. Lots of stuff about them having a weird feel or peeling off soon after putting them on. I got on for my iPad and of course it's got bubbles in it due to microscopic pieces of dust that I can't get out. My 3G I was lucky in that the only bubbles were under the case I had. So I guess I'll get one at some point. Any recommendations?
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post #129 of 198
7/9/10 at 2:01am
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/...ns-shields.php

I have one of my 3GS...Works a hell of a lot better then those static shields.
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post #130 of 198
7/9/10 at 2:18am
I have one of those rubber covers that go around my 3GS for better grip so it doesn't slip out of my hands. I bought some screen protectors, but never used them, and gave them away, since I'm pretty careful with it, and I also have a case to put it in and clip on the end of my pocket (not my belt!)

I thought the 3GS and the iPhone 4 are supposed to have screens that are more resistant to scratches? I remember reading that in a 3G Vs. 3GS review I read before picking up my 3GS in February.
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post #131 of 198
7/9/10 at 9:52am
The screens are pretty damn resistant, but you'll be surprised that after awhile you'll still get that one random scratch.
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post #132 of 198
7/9/10 at 12:24pm
Yeah, it's bizarre. If you watch the stress tests the blogs do, they'll take keys and a knife to modern glass screens and come up with nothing. I think it's just the nature of crystals, though - no matter how tough you make them, if something lucks out at hits it just right, it's going to get damaged.
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post #133 of 198
7/9/10 at 1:01pm
Thread Starter 
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Belkin+-...9#BVRRWidgetID

is the case I use. Sadly I think I was the first to realize the camera flash is screwed up by the cover, but the simple fix also is to just take a marker to the edges of the case and all is good. It was on sale when I bought it though. It's clear enough to show off I have the new phone (and yes and serve as a target).

My last iPhone had a Color Naked case-mate case, and I'm waiting for them to put out the same case I had before. God that case was amazing. Durable as hell.
http://www.case-mate.com/iPhone-4-Ca...ne-4-Cases.asp

Screen protectors
I used the static cling plastic that came on the iPhone for a few days, but just made a cut out for the camera and ear piece. It actually worked really well.


http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-Screen-Protec...ht_3749wt_1139
I ended up getting this, and applied 2 screen protectors together and was very patient trying to get the bubbles out. I don't want to test how good they work though, just out of paranoia.
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post #134 of 198
7/10/10 at 2:35am
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Originally Posted by MoonBaseNick View Post
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/...ns-shields.php

I have one of my 3GS...Works a hell of a lot better then those static shields.
That's what they had at best buy. I was gonna get it and then I looked at the reviews and they all said it gave the screen a weird rubbery feeling and also distorted the resolution.
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post #135 of 198
7/12/10 at 5:39pm
Power Support makes great Anti-Glare screen protectors, but I got tired of how much duller my screen looked whenever I used a screen protector of any sort.

Now, I may be in the minority, but in one of the worst areas to have AT&T, NYC, my service has been noticeably better post-iPhone 4, which is both good and bad. Areas where I used to get no reception, now get inconsistent service, which is frustrating, but places where I used to get inconsistent service are now rather solid.

Also, I've noticed faster download speeds and significantly faster upload speeds.
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post #136 of 198
7/12/10 at 5:48pm
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That's what they had at best buy. I was gonna get it and then I looked at the reviews and they all said it gave the screen a weird rubbery feeling and also distorted the resolution.
Well, pretty much all the screen protectors will give you that weird rubber feeling. I don't notice it, but then again I've had the cover on my phone for so long. The resolution thing is a good question, since my 3Gs does not have the display the 4 does, I can't say how it'll look.
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post #137 of 198
7/12/10 at 5:51pm
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI View Post
That's what they had at best buy. I was gonna get it and then I looked at the reviews and they all said it gave the screen a weird rubbery feeling and also distorted the resolution.
It does give the screen a little bit of a weird feeling, although I never noticed distortion issues with mine. If you look really closely at these they look almost like they have pores, but until you're used to it then it doesn't feel that smooth. If you get it right when you get your phone, you won't notice. If you get it months in, it will be distracting for a bit.

If you do go with Zagg, do a quick Google search and find the nearest mall that has one of their kiosks. It's $5 I think (if I remember correctly) to have some bored teenager put the thing on for you, and they'll do a WAY better job of getting the dust and bubbles out than you would yourself. I did that, had no issues, had a friend buy it at Best Buy and he was cussing for a week over it.
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post #138 of 198
7/12/10 at 5:53pm
I agree with Pathetic, get someone to put it on for you. I did it myself, I ended up doing a decent job but it's not perfectly straight.
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post #139 of 198
7/15/10 at 12:50am
Looks like Apple will be holding a press conference 10AM PST on Friday. I'm guessing they are going to say more than "You're holding it wrong"
http://theappleblog.com/2010/07/14/a...erence-friday/
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post #140 of 198
7/15/10 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by MoonBaseNick View Post
Looks like Apple will be holding a press conference 10AM PST on Friday. I'm guessing they are going to say more than "You're holding it wrong"
http://theappleblog.com/2010/07/14/a...erence-friday/
Between Consumer Reports bashing the phone and bloomberg announcing that engineers warned about this Jobs is looking more and more like an even bigger douche than we know he is. I bet the offer a free case as a workaround (for now). But if they don't apologize for blaming the software that is utter bullshit. That may be true also but come on. It's amazing how everyone loves Apple and bashes other "big companies" when Apple is one of the worst. They get a free pass because their products are so damn good* and it is so hypocritical**.

*except iTunes, one of the worst developed software products known to mankind.

** including myself here because as soon Verizon gets the iPhone I'm dropping this Storm like the middling POS it is.
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post #141 of 198
7/15/10 at 3:58pm
The truth is that the software DOES make the problem look worse. By concentrating all the reception bars in a smaller range, it looks like the reception is more impacted by holding it the wrong way than it really is.

Holding it does have a significant impact but still, nothing that can't be resolved by a bumper or a tiny plastic strip around the edge of the phone. I just don't see the point of freaking out about it. The phone has an antenna with issues and you can still take it back if it affects you too much.
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post #142 of 198
7/16/10 at 12:31am
The update "fix" for the signal issues is already up on iTunes. Even though I have a 3GS I did it, and notice the "thicker" bars.
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post #143 of 198
7/16/10 at 12:37am
Anyone know what site I can watch the press conference on my Incredible with its uninterrupted 3G signal while cupping it in my hands tomorrow?
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post #144 of 198
7/16/10 at 12:43am
Did your incredible get the Android 2.2/Flash update yet? If not, then you're probably going to have the same luck watching it as someone with an iPhone.
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post #145 of 198
7/16/10 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by dontEATnachos View Post
Did your incredible get the Android 2.2/Flash update yet? If not, then you're probably going to have the same luck watching it as someone with an iPhone.
The Incredible has an HTC Flash Player that seems to work just fine on most videos, uploaded or streaming.
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post #146 of 198
7/16/10 at 10:30am
It supports Flash Lite which can work on some videos but I'd have to say that I think you're stretching to call it 'most.'
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post #147 of 198
7/16/10 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by dontEATnachos View Post
It supports Flash Lite which can work on some videos but I'd have to say that I think you're stretching to call it 'most.'
When I say most I am saying that most of the videos I have watched have worked.
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post #148 of 198
7/16/10 at 10:56am
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When I say most I am saying that most of the videos I have watched have worked.
I would go so far as to say that 100% of the videos you've watched have worked.
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post #149 of 198
7/16/10 at 11:05am
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I would go so far as to say that 100% of the videos you've watched have worked.
No, there have been a few... Jeez, you Apple kids are a touchy lot.
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post #150 of 198
7/16/10 at 11:12am
Yes, so touchy ... I don't even have an iPhone or a Mac and I could recognize that you were clearly trolling.

And Renn was joking that if you were able to WATCH it then it must have been able to be decoded by Flash (otherwise you wouldn't have been able to watch it).
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