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So Film Forum is continuing their Year of Greatness (so far they've done a Victor Fleming fest, a Kurosawa fest, the restored Metropolis, Five Easy Pieces, Breathless, and they have a Chaplin fest coming up...and The Prowler, which was totally ballin') with an Anthony Mann retrospective at the end of the month. I'm sad to say I didn't make it to as many of the aformentioned festivals as I would have liked, but I'm recommitting myself to seeing more movies at FF before the year is out.

Since Mann's features seem to demand to be seen on the big screen, I hope to get to as many of these as possible. I know The Furies and his four-film cycle with Jimmy Stewart is a must, as is the proto-procedural He Walked By Night (which I saw on a really crappy DVD transfer), but how are his epics? His other noirs? Is there anything I need to be on the look-out for?
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I heartily recommend Raw Deal (1948) with Dennis O'Keefe and a never scarier Raymond Burr. Brilliant noir with one of my favorite scenes from that particular cycle, namely a scene in which O'Keefe's escaped con character is hiding out and an unexpected (and plot-wise unrelated) visitor shows up. It's a brief, but shocking and powerful moment in the film and it speaks volumes. Glad you started this thread, I need to check out more of Mann's oeuvre as well.
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Men of War, if they're showing it, The Naked Spur are musts.
post #4 of 17
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Showing both of those!
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Devil's Doorway, Winchester 73, and Man of the West are my right now favorites. The Far Country has a killer --almost proto-spaghetti Western--ending.

I still need to catch up on his noirs.
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I'm sad to say I didn't make it to as many of the aformentioned festivals as I would have liked, but I'm recommitting myself to seeing more movies at FF before the year is out.
Why? The screening rooms are shoeboxes and the seating isn't even raked. I have to get there about an hour before the movie starts for a front row seat just so someone's head isn't in my face. So done with the Film Forum.

Anyway, Anthony Mann...love WINCHESTER '73. Favorite scene: Stewart flips out and bounces Dan Duryea across the barroom. Mann tapped into a scary side of JS's personality for his westerns. I think only Hitchcock ever got Stewart to go that dark.
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Devil's Doorway, Winchester 73, and Man of the West are my right now favorites. The Far Country has a killer --almost proto-spaghetti Western--ending.
I'll second Man of the West, if only for the scene where Cooper beats the crap out of and tears the clothes off of Jack Lord.

El Cid is better than The Fall of the Roman Empire if you're hankering for an epic.
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Why? The screening rooms are shoeboxes and the seating isn't even raked. I have to get there about an hour before the movie starts for a front row seat just so someone's head isn't in my face. So done with the Film Forum.
I love seeing stuff in the theater -- with the classics, I try to do it whenever possible -- and I got a membership for Christmas that gives me tickets at six bucks a pop. That membership would be worth it alone for the chance to see Seven Samurai, Five Easy Pieces, Gone With The Wind, and The Red Shoes on the big screen for the first time, all of which I did this year. I'm sure I could make the effort to go out to BAM or up to Lincoln Center/MOMA, but again, it's not as cheap and Film Forum is closer to me.

My big problem with Film Forum is that its clientele tends to be older, and thus, noiser/creakier, but at least it's not pretension central like the IFC center is.
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El Cid is better than The Fall of the Roman Empire if you're hankering for an epic.
Not seen El Cid, but I was gonna recommend Fall...! One shouldn't go into it expecting historical accuracy (to put it midly) and Stephen Boyd is as bland as they come, but if you rock it as a sort of fantasy movie there's much to love there; the whole melancholic begining with the snow and Alec Guiness is tops, imo, as is James Mason's performance.

Border Incident is a pretty ho-hum noir procedural, but worth it for some ahead-of-its-time violence (Mann usually comes correct with that) and Montalban's leading turn.
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So I'm putting together my viewing schedule for the next three weeks (and hopefully I'll be posting my thoughts in this thread, too), and I have the films I am moving heaven and earth and my schedule at the call center where I work for. However, there are a few films on the list that I'm not sure about. I'd be curious to hear if any are must-sees, and which are worth seeing. Here's the list of candidates:

Bamboo Blonde
Devil's Doorway -- Elvis, saw you recommended this. Any reason why?
God's Little Acre
Thunder Bay
The Tin Star
The Glenn Miller Story*
Desperate
The Great Flamroon
Reign of Terror

*I don't really like Glenn Miller as a musician, that's why I'm wary about this one.
post #11 of 17
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Bamboo Blonde
Devil's Doorway -- Elvis, saw you recommended this. Any reason why?
God's Little Acre
Thunder Bay
The Tin Star
The Glenn Miller Story*
Desperate
The Great Flamroon
Reign of Terror
The Devil's Doorway is the bridge film between Mann's noirs and Westerns. There is a darkness. Coming at the same time as Ford's Cavalry trilogy, even tho Jimmy Stewart's Broken Arrow is usually given credit/distinction, it was the first to depict Native Americans heroically. That was radical. You feel the sting of racism like in few other movies. At the same time, it is never preachy or sinks to Kramer-esque heavy-handiness. It has all the gritty and exciting Mann touches; final third, near all out action.

The Tin Star is also an underrated favorite. Recommend saving it for after the Jimmy Stewart/ Mann colaborations. Plays better that way.
post #12 of 17
I haven't seen THe Tin Star but by all accounts it's on a par with the Mann/Stewart colaborations.
post #13 of 17
I've only seen the five Mann/Stewart westerns. Must expand to some of the others.

Between Vertigo and the Mann westerns, Stewart's late-life persona as everyone's favorite fumbly amiable grandpa gets totally nuked. Not to mention Anatomy of a Murder. It's almost like Stewart spent the entire 1950s burning his Capra image to the ground. It probably started with Call Northside 777 in '48. Hell, even It's a Wonderful Life is 95% misery and 5% MERRY CHRISTMAS MOVIEHOUSE!!!

Anyway, not to derail into a Jimmy Stewart thread. But to pull it around, Mann probably did as much or more to deepen Stewart's career as Hitchcock did.
post #14 of 17
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First two days and two of the Mann-Stewart collaborations down!

Winchester '73 was great, great, great. It might be one of my new favorite Westerns. I loved the symbolism of the titular weapon passing through the different hands that won the west, from the Native Americans to the bandits to the homesteaders to the con artists. The movie runs rich with the mythology of the West, with character cameos by Wyatt Earp and Bat Masterson, to the specter of Little Big Horn hanging over the days in which the film is set, to the 'dead man's hand' of Bill Hickcok. Mann's lighting in this makes the whole thing feel very modern, and the film is sort-of-episodic, but it rarely strays from Jimmy Stewart's pursuit of justice. I like how even though he wins and gets his gun back and his vengance, we end on a shot of his face/the rifle and it's ambiguous as to whether or not he can truly go back to a normal life. I really dug his relationship with Millard MItchell, too. There's a lot going on underneat the surface of this film, and I want to watch it again soon. That, and Dan Dureya is a lot of fun as a villian in the last act of the picture, plus, Stephen McNally sounds like Ian McShane.

I wasn't quite as nuts about The Naked Spur as I was about Winchester, but it looked absolutely gorgeous, even in a less-than-restored print. One of the things that I loved about it was how much of it seemed to be shot on location, including the climax. Mann's landscapes and vistas are knocking me out. I thought the middle of the movie dragged a little bit, but I really dug the cast for this one. Ralph Meeker in particular, I knew him only from Kiss Me Deadly -- he's kind of a pimp in this. I also liked Robert Ryan, who I know we have a thread about. Millard Mitchell was fun, but I didn't like him as much as I did in W73. Besides the dragging, I was kind of put off by the ending -- Stewart plays this driven, obsessed guy for the entire movie, and then he just gives up his pursuit because Janet Leigh falls in love with him? It makes sense, as Stewart's seen everyone on his crew die except Leigh, and maybe he realizes that if he continues his pursuit of greed, he'll die too. Still, it was a lot of fun. This is a movie I'm surprised they haven't remade or set in space or some shit yet.

I'll write more about the two noirs I saw, Raw Deal (which is easily in my top 10 noirs now. Fucking gorgeous movie.) and T-Men, possibly tomorrow, but here's my ranking so far:

1. WInchester '73
2 (tie) Raw Deal/The Naked Spur
3. T-Men

Tomorrow: Dr. Broadway, Mann's debut, for sure and maybe The Bamboo Blonde
post #15 of 17
That's funny, because I think Stewart's performance at the end is one his finest moments of acting. The Naked Spur grew on me, but the ending is about him sacrificing everything he's ever believed in to get a bounty, and his breakdown, god, I buy that, I find it emotionally wrecking. Different strokes.
post #16 of 17
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Oh, I really liked Stewart's acting in Naked Spur, no doubt. I think the problem for me -- and the film is growing on me, especially the visuals and the colors -- is that the minute Stewart finds Ryan with the other two, he goes bugfuck crazy and is pulling his six shooters and ranting and raving. Based on that first-act impression, even though we learn more about his backstory and why he's so obsessed, it didn't feel like he was descending into madness and sacrifice, because he was already kind of crazy. The opposite of that was slowly learning that Ryan is a badder dude than we think, which was an arc/reveal that I really enjoyed.

I was going to touch on this after I saw Devil's Doorway, but since that looks like it's not going to happen (stupid work schedule), I wanted to say that I was really impressed by Mann's fair (if surfacely sterotypical) portrayal of the Native Americans in the two westerns I saw. They were the agresssors in both, but in Naked Spur, he lingers on the slaughtered bodies and Stewart's reaction to it just long enough for it to sink in, and I really dug that.
post #17 of 17
I've been re-watching Mann's body of work for the first time in well over a decade, starting with his prime decade of Westerns (roughly all of the 50's). So far I've watched "Winchester '73", "The Naked Spur" and "Man of the West".

"Winchester '73": Really works primarily as a series of short fims. Almost "Pulp Fiction"-esque, with the rifle acting as the bridge between stories. This came out in 1950, so when people comment on Stewart's intensity here, it's not too hard to see some pent up emotions from his time in WWII, if you're looking for it (In fact that seems a common thread in all his films with Mann. Physical and mental rage, just simmering beneath the surface. In his films with Hitchcock, there seems to be a more sexual anger subtext throughout the same decade, or so. Basically, I think Stewart was dealing with and/or exorcising some true demons throughout this whole period of his work). Back to the film: liked the Indian shootout, the sequence with the deadpan gun dealer, and Stewart throughout. The climax is slightly underwhelming. Pretty much just him and his brother exchanging gunfire around rocks for ten minutes.

"The Naked Spur" is pretty good, but fairly small in terms of being primarily a character piece. Robert Ryan is a fantastic villain, and the climax at the rapids is really well done. As said up thread, the ending is kind of sudden, but it works.

"Man of the West" is a truly great one, with the one drawback that Gary Cooper is a little too old for the role (he looks like the villain's brother, as opposed to his surrogate son). "Unforgiven" owes a lot to the basic storyline of the former outlaw trying to make good. And there is some great genuine tension in the way the film treats the female lead, played by Julie London. The scene where she's forced to strip in front of the outlaws still packs a solid punch, as does the scene where Cooper later turns the tables and strips down the main offender. You get the feeling they pushed the boundaries as far as they could for the time. Again, the ending kind of loses steam, and the final shot is unique in that it doesn't quite end all happily every after. And of the three, this is the one where the female lead is the least annoyingly damsel in distress and the over orchestration of the time is at the minimum.

"The Far Country" and "Bend of the River" coming up next.
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