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Guys question. Assuming Will is able to uncover whatever plot there is. What exactly is he suppose to do with it? Give it to the CIA, FBI, local police, Kale?

Its not like he has people he can trust in any way.

Also is anyone thinking the married analysis is going to make a play for rehab analysis?

The media perhaps? Tanya and Grant, you're talking about Tanya and Grant! I remembered their names! *fist pump*. Anyways, no idea - Miles hasn't even made a move towards Temp Analyst yet and they seemed to hit it off

The media, well that might be where the show is going, though it hard to believe that today's media is interested in any story in which you have to actually have more than a headline to explain it to the public.

It just that Grant seems to like Tanya now more than he original did. And I think its just a matte of time between Miles and the temp. This is a slow moving show after all, I mean with all Will has discovered he has yet to have anything that shows any criminal activity, I image its coming, but damm are they taking their time.

There one big thing that keep me coming back to this show though, not the unraveling of the mystery, the hopes that at some point Isiah Whitlock will be given the line "sssshhhhiiiiiitttttt!"

Grant's not Tanya's type. I think that scene was just meant to illustrate how far Tanya's come in Grant's mind, as a friend and colleague. She's certainly no longer the girl who's supposed to bring the donuts.

Now, Miles and the Triforce-tattooed substitute -- they totally need to be doin' it.

agreed.

Also, I agree with the others lauding kale ... loved his disbelief as he said, "old man?" a second after releasing the guy, and then just picked up the bag, all business. But even better was the way he told whats her face to just take care of day care, then almost under his breathe, before turning and walking off, and without elaboration at all, "... Ill take care of the rest."

Also enjoyed seeing him sweep the house, and the later scene with his partner when he exchanged the lamps... good writing and acting...

Seriously, no posts? This episode was the shit

I fell behind. I need to catch up. I'm two, maybe three episodes behind.

I am absolutely in love with this show. Every episode gets me more involved. Loved the look on his boss's face when he realized the body he's going to have to clean up is that of his ex-lover.

And the chick from the other building...is she in on it? I wasn't really clear on the significance of the tomato.

He brought a tomato over to her house when he first hooked up with her.

This was a great, compelling episode. I didn't want it to end when the credits rolled.

I loved how Will wanted to get the band back together for Kateb, glad they can put personal differences aside for the sake of national security, that is all except Tuxton (evil bastard).

Is will going to go back to work? What is going to happen!? Maybe he'll be a national hero thanks to stopping the event and he will become untouchable? Next week cannot happen fast enough.

I read that bit that Spengler wanted Grant in there when he got the call that Will had been taken care of, so in my mind they would have been just sitting there, for hours and hours, if Miles hadn't run in with the intel on Kateb. And apparently they dropped the thing with the locked elevator up to Spengler's office that only Cale has the key for.

Well, Will went up there during the FBI episode. I think they dropped that after episode 2.

This fucking episode. Aside from a scene or two that were slightly on-the-nose (I'm thinking Truxton's congratulatory speech to Will, which may as well have concluded with "And if you didn't pick up on it, it was nice knowing you...because you're getting killed tonight", and Katherine conveniently smashing the box that concealed Tom's letter), this was awesomely well-done by everyone concerned, especially director Brad Anderson (the maker of the super-spooky SESSION 9) and James Badge Dale.

Liked how they alluded to Miles and Katie clearly have gotten busy at some stage without highlighting it too much. Really liked Truxton's clunky attempts at small talk and male bonding (like the stilted way he called his whiskey "the good shit"). Got a little sad when Will had to convincingly cut Andy loose.

Man, I want a second season of this, even if I don't know what the hell it would explore after this big-ass conspiracy.

Pretty good episode.

My only problem is why is Will so stupid. He is being followed, he knows his office is buged. Yet, the man calls the library from his own office. Never mind Spangler going down and seeing the call, I image the people listening in on the bug are like "oh shit he knows".

Maybe the second season will be Kale teaching Will how to do some general field work without endangering himself. To be honest I wouldn't mind if the show was a whole lot less about Will and a hell lot more Kale. Maybe Kale can host a "murder house makeover" show.

Creepiest use of "Carry On My Wayward Son" ever.

It's been a hell of a trip from "This show is boring!" to "Only one episode left?! Nooooooooo!!!"

This fucking show! This became the first show I have to watch on Sundays*. This show just keeps bringing it and bringing it and just does. not. STOP. Loved how it started, loved everything about Kale and especially how he is too vital to Truxton's operations for him to just kill off.

And the big reveal? DAMN. I don't even know how to process that, the pieces were all there and I cannot wait to see what happens next. I understand why the guy went crazy at the meeting about him knowing their names.

*Well, Monday AM when I get in.

Agreed, agreed. I fear for the safety of pretty much every character on the show, it feels like death could be around the corner for almost any of them. It's kind of amazing how this series has turned around, with it being difficult to give a shit about any of the character at first to enjoying every single one of them. LOVE Michael Cristofer as Spangler, probably my favorite character on the show. Crossing my fingers that this gets a 2nd season.

I love his delivery of just about every single line. The phone call to the FBI Director was pure gold, especially the way he held on to the phone at the end and addressed the FBI guy. That was some great stuff.

I mean, look at the position he is in. If the plan works and shit gets blown up, he makes huge profits and is still gold with Atlas McDowell(?) and if his API guys manage to crack the plot and solve this... he's pure gold with the intelligence community. This was a win-win scenario for him, as long as he kept Will at bay.

Most series are lucky to have one character as interesting and entertaining as Spengler. This show has at least two (Kale being the other), and Will and Miles aren't too far off. So much goodness.

Really loving this show, especially the last couple episodes. A few comments/observations:

- I was glad to see that the neighbor hottie hasn't turned out to be someone planted there by Spangler & Co. That would have been quite cliche and lame.

- Will ordering everyone but Miles out of the room seemed a bit odd to me. Grant & Tanya have proven their mettle throughout the process and their input could definitely help. It didn't really matter in the end because Will & Miles came to the conclusion pretty quickly, but I was just surprised that the whole team wasn't involved.

- "Meet Me in St. Louis" has to mean something, right? Right??? If it doesn't, that's fine as well--I love me some misdirection when done properly.

- The look on Spangler's face when he sits in his office after the attack was wonderful. Great tight shot there, Michael Slovis!

- I really hope this comes back for a 2nd season. If it doesn't, then I hope Arliss Howard finds some more TV work off of this. The man has been wonderful and I really want more of him.

Been loving the show from the outset, mostly because of the too-often overlooked setting of the private intelligence firm. I've had to explain more than once to folks only paying light attention that API isn't some fictional branch of the U.S. government's intelligence community, it's a fictional private company handling, analyzing, and making decisions about the nation's top secret information. There are literally thousands of these firms going right now (of varying size and levels of access).

Want to double down on RUBICON's scariness potential, check out the Washington Post's 2-year project they published last month, Top Secret America. It's head-spinning.

Anyway, this show = fantastic. The initial slow burn didn't faze me, although I wonder how much of the intricate code/Ed stuff in the early episodes will hold up on a rewatch.

THANK YOU whoever pointed out Andy was in THE PACIFIC. I couldn't place her for the life of me, but never got around to imdb-ing. So Leckie bags and dumps Basilone's widow. James Badge Dale was surprisingly (to me) able to carry the show as a lead whose role is mostly interior, and he probably has the saddest eyes on TV. Which is gayer when I read it than I thought it'd be. But I've known way-too-young widows and widowers, and his haunt felt genuine and consummate, even when trying to think or flirt.

Miles was giving me such a John Ritter vibe early on that I actually did imdb the actor to see if there was any relation (nope). Dallas Roberts is a revelation here.

I believe Will kicked everyone out of the room because no one else would (or should) know who Donald Bloom was, that he was cross-checking Tanazi's entry dates against. Miles was a trustworthy compromise.

Now that disaster's struck, in almost a head-foreslapping way (the missing Houston white paper Spengler burned!), I have no idea how this season's going to conclude, if it wants to wrap up as a singular entity or leave lots of threads dangling. Either way, please please let's get a season 2.

Good interview with Rubicon exec producer over at the AV Club. Sounds like a second season isn't decided on yet, but the numbers make it hopeful.

Perfectly good finale IF there is a season two. If not, then too much was left unresolved. I also didn't buy the big reveal with hot neighbor lady, but at least her allegiances proved to be the opposite of what everyone was guessing.

Spangler and Will were great. Surprisingly little Kale.

Ball's in your court, AMC. Do the right thing.

Not a spectacular finale but definitely a satisfying one. (In fact, that's in keeping with other good dramas over the years - the penultimate episodes of some WIRE and MAD MEN seasons have sometimes been stronger than the final episodes, and the same could be said for RUBICON.)

I liked that knowledge of the conspirators had a viral effect - it infected Will over the course of the season, and now it's got its hooks into Miles (which struck me as really sad, actually).

And I'm not sure what to make of the final image, with Truxton leaving that four-leaf clover on the ledge the way he did. Did it represent him cutting all ties with the Atlas McDowell crew? Or maybe him going rogue - I assumed when he received the clover in the mail it was code for 'We're gonna kill you' or 'Time to kill yourself'. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyway, more RUBICON, if you please. I freakin' loved this season.

I'd have thought the clover meant "you're dead". Katherine's husband decided to go out on his own terms. But I'm guessing.

Decent finale, but I found it a bit underwhelming. But it's been a great season.

But didn't Sledge Hammer get one as well?

I thought the finale was awesome. I loved the slow burn nature of the whole show. It was the anti 24 to begin with, but as the show progressed, there were some narrative twists and turns that were well earned and genuinely thrilling. AMC is on fire with their programming.

Great show.

Just finished watching the season finale tonight and I found it to be great. I liked neighbor girl being the flip of what we all thought she may be but it was a little too coincidental. Plus, she sucks at her whole protection thing since she was standing right there and saw the guy bump into her charge when no one else was a mile near her. Flags should have gone off then.

Anyway, the wife made a great catch with her supersonic ears: about a couple of seconds after Will finds the four-leaf clover and turns, you hear a soft gunshot in the distance. I had to repeat it twice to catch it but it's there. So, supposedly Truxton's out. Also, I have to say that Will is just pathetic and thoughtless through most of the season. He leaves bodies in his wake and then turns around and pulls more people in on his own obsession. It's kind of annoying when you think about it. I still love the show though.

With the exception of the neighbor reveal I thought that this was a fantastic finale. I can't wait for the DVD so I can go back and try to catch all of the things that I missed and that slipped by me.

It's hard to believe that Will and the group were onto Kateb and the others from the beginning. Who put them onto Kateb? Spangler gives the orders so why would he put the operation into David & Kale's hands?

The basic intention is that the group is going to come back and say its an Iranian plot. Spangler doesn't realise that Will will go as far as he does and may not care for that matter. Spangler probably wondering "why don't we try that just bump into him plan that worked with Mrs Ruhmor?"

As it is I still have questions about the first season.

1) So why kill via train? Isn't that sort of overkill? I sure a staged mugging would of probably worked.
2) Why couldn't David have left a copy of "Meet Me In St. Louis" with a message attached saying "watch this". Wouldn't it have been easier than a code?
3) So how long has David known about this group anyway.
4) So why a four leaf clover, does the organization like irony or something?
5) So who is the neighbour working for. I notice alot of people think she is on Will's side, why lead Kathrine to her death then?
6) Why is the shady organization freaked out by Will? Once again just have someone bump into him.
7) Is Will's evidence real enough to stop people from thinking Iran or is Spangler pretty much right that no one will care.

1) I also thought death by train was unnecessarily thorough. But visually it looked great.
2) Because anyone working for API would watch the DVD if they saw that note, but a code can keep it a secret.
3) I'm not sure.
4) Yes, it's definitely meant to be ironic.
5) She didn't lead Katherine to her death, she didn't want her to go the park, it was Katherine who insisted on going.
6) They did try killing him, it didn't work. Will knows what the ex Cia guy who bumped Katherine looks like so it wouldn't be so simple.

I wonder if this show gets a second season. It must be on the bubble since we haven't heard its fate yet.

CANCELED.

Sniff.

Fuck and ass

MOTHERFUCKER.

*looking for four leafed clover to send to AMC*

Damn AMC. All there is to say really.

Unfortunate but understandable. It was a little too complex for the average viewer and I can see how it would have a decline in ratings. At least we got the full season and it wasn't removed.

I kinda called it. I had a feeling it wouldn't get a second season, the finale was just too complete. Most of the plot was resolved. It felt like an episode really wrapping up things. It's too bad, because the show was awesome. AMCs lineup would've been incomparble if they left it on air. Didn't Mad Men have even worse ratings? Yet they kept it on. So AMC isn't obssessed with good ratings.

Surely AMC must've realised a drama with Rubicons pacing would lead to low ratings. Other than the pacing the main character spends most of the time silently staring at shit. I mean the ratings are understandable, but not AMCs decision imo, because it was a great show.

Damn, AMC. Give it a little time; it's a show that needs the room to breathe. I'm sorry there wasn't more overt misogyny and day drinking involved, but it was a grand show that had just found its footing.

Bah. Thanks for giving us the one season we did get.