Diablo Cody Talks About Megan Fox and Feminist Film Making - Page 2

Micheal Bay's a shitty director who cranks out populist blockbusters that make lots of money and probably has a small wee wee. Meagan Fox is a mediocre actress with nice tits. Cody Diablo is a talented writer who also happens to have nice tits.

The only thing that should matter are the first parts of those statements. We don't live in that world though. We live in a world where Fox has a career because of her looks, Cody is judged as a women instead of writer who happens to be a women and Bay is really good at delivering moving pictures with 'splosions that make massive bank.

I didn't much care for Juno, largely because I didn't really get into it. I've been meaning to give it another chance lately. That said, I loved Jennifer's Body, and the more I hear from Cody, the more I like her as a person. All of this misogynistic nerd rage surrounding her is pretty baffling.

For certain fanboys, Cody is the funky Argento-loving chick who won't fuck them. And Fox is the popular girl who won't fuck them. How dare they have opinions and continue to make movies that we're all forced to watch at gunpoint!

As has been said elsewhere, Fox isn't the problem with any of the movies she's been in. I'm not a "fan" of hers, but I'm not a hater either. From what I've seen so far she does what she's been hired to do. She's 24. Time will tell if she turns out to be Charlize Theron (I certainly couldn't have anticipated Monster from her work in 2 Days in the Valley) or a PG-13 Sasha Grey. She needs to work with John Waters; if anyone could bring something interesting out of her, it's the man who made Patty Hearst into an actress (and, arguably, helped Johnny Depp take the first steps toward getting away from 21 Jump Street).

I used to look forward to Fox's interviews for the what-will-she-say-next factor, but sadly she's starting to recycle the same soundbites.

I've liked what I've seen from Cody so far (haven't caught US of Tara). Some aspects of her work aren't for everyone (I gather her dialogue legitimately bothers a lot of people more than it bothers me), but then the whole tattooed ex-stripper narrative gets brought into it, as if that had much to do with what's on the screen. And she's only 32. And so far she's done a teen-pregnancy comedy, a teen horror movie, and a multiple-personality disorder TV show — not Juno, Juno Clone 1, and Juno Clone 2. I like that she seems to have a variety of stories she wants to tell about women. Whatever people find irritating or overly quirky in her writing may iron itself out or get more finessed over time. Her winning the Oscar first time out of the gate probably didn't help the resentful perception of her as a manic pixie chick who got lucky.

I pointed out that if what Fox reportedly said is true, then she needed ripped a new one. I didn't say that I actually bought all of the nonsense. I was just pointing out that the feminist angle of this wasn't really needed. If some young male star was reported to supposedly be saying bad things about a director, I still think there would have been just as large an uproar.

And I liked Juno. Also not one of the Fox haters. I honestly think there is some potential there, I think she's to blame for not going after better roles more actively.

Speaking of Mr. Bay, and I know I'm going to get some flak for this one, but I'm cautiously looking forward to Transformers 3. If he sticks to his word and cuts out the terrible "humor," severely cuts down on the "twins" and gets some good work out of an actually pretty solid cast (apart from the new female lead -- but we can't judge without seeing her), then he might be able to make the first decent Transformers flick. I mean, Malkovich can't make two straight shitty blockbusters, can he?



Sorry for the derail. Was just getting that out there. I would also just like to add that, although I'm not a fan of her dialogue, I do think that Diablo Cody is a very talented writer, and I am looking forward to whatever her next film project will be.

What's so unbelievable about all the butt hurt surrounding Megan Fox's comment is that I'm sure Bay would agree with it (to an extent) too. Seems like everyone who's actually pissed is way more thin-skinned than any of the functioning adults involved in the story are.

I honestly took her quote as a compliment to Bay. It's too bad she used actual dictators names (especially Hitler), rather than just saying "dictator".

I thought Heigl's wrongheaded reading of KU was sexist in and of itself. She just totally missed the point.

Diplomacy. The world's watching. I appreciate candor, but you can't be surprised when someone take's a blunt comment the wrong way, even if it is viewd as a compliment by others. I personally have a terrible brain-to-mouth filter.

Same here, but Fox's comment missed the filter by way too much; she could just said that Bay is too much of a control freak and rules his sets with an iron fist, while at the same time he's a mellow and quiet person when outside of the set, to the same effect.
However, when you remember the Wisdom of Megan Fox that was posted on the Megan Fox thread way back, you might be a jerk and think she lacks that filter alltogether....or she doesnt rein her act, so to speak.

Then the talented woman should step up and co-write (doubt she could do it herself) a rom com where she could be Theron from Monster morphed with Gerard Butler's character from The Ugly Truth. Shut the hell up Heigl you ungrateful dumbass.

She makes a good living doing that tripe. She rivals weathermen in the being bad at what they do and still continuing to do it career.

Maybe, but she's completely wrong in the case of KNOCKED UP. Those stereotypes are set up then completely obliterated by the time the baby is born. Leslie Mann is probably the most sympathetic character in the whole thing.

The fuck she is.

Shia was criticizing the final ouput of the film, not so much the man Spielberg. While Fox was criticizing Bay himself (for no aparent reason), not the shitty Transformers 2, and this was seen as ungrateful since without Bay she'd be nowhere.

*Really*? So she's a bitch to her husband occasionally. She's raising his kids whilst he goes and does whatever the fuck she wants, AND he lies to her for no real reason other than "I don't want to be a husband and father ALL the time". Of all the problems et cetera that the characters in the film go through, the one line that makes me empathise the most is when Mann says "but *I* like Spider-Man too!".

Don't get me wrong, the women in KU have issues, but until the close of the film the guys are childish, selfish assholes.

Yes, really. I'm sorry to be raising this after it was discussed so thoroughly when KNOCKED UP was released but I find Mann's character about as unsympathetic (and, yes, sympathetic too) as everyone else in the movie. Rudd ducking out on his family is a dick move, that's true, but he hardly strikes me as a deadbeat dad - for the most part, he's caring, involved and fun when we see him interacting with his kids. And yes, Mann's snappish temperament (which is seemingly directed at everyone, not just her husband) is somewhat justified in light of Rudd's bad behaviour. But the dysfunction in their relationship strikes me as a two-way street, and Mann acts as just as much of "a childish, selfish asshole" as any of the other characters.

The difference is that Rudd gets to be funny and likeable, which tends to tilt the blame in her direction from a narrative standpoint. This obviously plays differently with different audiences, but it does present a slight problem in how the blame gets distributed in the context of the movie.

In real life, Mann's character would probably be more admirable, if not necessarily sympathetic. Because Knocked Up is a comedy, and we like comedies to be funny, Rudd's character has the edge.

Plus, Rudd's not a deadbeat dad, but he only likes to stick around for the fun parts. She seems to be doing the more thankless, heavy-lifting parts of parenthood.

The dysfunction is abolsutely a two-way street, but Mann seems waaaay more put-upon, and at least is trying to communicate with Rudd, albeit snappily. He's just buried his head in the sand.

You guys raise some very valid points, and I definitely see where you're coming from. DaveB is correct in that Mann earns the moral/emotional high ground by at least trying to engage, but I guess I find these two people about as miserable (and culpable) as one another. And their ways of dealing with the situation - Rudd by trying to avoid it, Mann by imposing as much control as she can - strike me as equally frustrating.

Put it this way, I find Rudd's line about wishing he enjoyed anything as much as his kids enjoyed blowing bubbles as sad and resonant as Mann's "I like Spider-Man" line.

Quick question tommy - do you know a couple, or couples in real life like these two?

All my friends are far too repressed and concerned with keeping up appearances to bring such emotions into the public domain. Much like yours truly, really. But without wishing to elaborate, I feel like I have some understanding of this dynamic.

I hope I'm making it clear that I don't feel like it's a case of Mann spoiling the man-children's fun by being a nagging, controlling bitch. I just feel that pretty much everyone is KNOCKED UP has some growing up or soul searching to do, and a big part of the film's success is that it both explicitly and implicitly states that it can be a difficult and ongoing process.

She should blame women. All the Twi-hards love their Edward more than her. They want to be Bella. NOT THAT LITTLE LIP-BITING USURPER!

The fact remains that she made the statement. She's mad at the media for discussing her comment? Too damn bad. And don't think that people were discussing it simply because it was you who said it, you twit. Don't made incendiary comments and then expect people not to start a fire with them.